Talk:Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?/GA1

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 13:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• Written: 1930 → should also be in the body of the article, along with a source in the aforementioned section
  • Removed, not verifiable
• Genre: Traditional pop → same as previous
  • Removed
• Lenght?
  • There is no canonical track, so no fixed length.
• Audio Sample: WP:Sample, unless the song is over 5 minutes, no 30 seconds
  • I do not know how to do this, so I just removed it.

 Done

Lead

• Written by lyricist Yip Harburg and composer Jay Gorney → not mentioned in the body of the article
  • Fixed
• it is largely in a minor key → composed largely in a minor key
  • done

 Done

Background

• The Great Depression in the United States, started by → The Great Depression in the United States, which started with
• By 1932 → In 1932
• The tune → Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?
  • At this point, it wasn't called that.

It doesn't sound encyclopedic, perhaps "the piece"? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:18, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Changed to "melody". buidhe 00:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• After his appliance business went bankrupt, → after this the first sentence should be writen as if it weren't for it Harburg wouldn't have gone to the music business.
  • Reordered (I think that's what you were suggesting?)
• One paragraph
  • It would be too long, and deals with two separate topics.

 Done

Summary

• Re-title the section for "Composition and lyrical interpretation"
• In the second paragraph is always "the song, song and more song". Replace sometimes with "the track" or even with the title of the song "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?", for example: "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" has an unusual structure for a Broadway song.
  • It's not a track as there is no single canonical version. Done some.

Understood. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

the song jumps → "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?" jumps → change this one as well.

I think this could cause confusion, as the title is also part of the lyrics. Changed to "the melody jumps."

 Done

Performance history

• Re-title "Live performances"
  • includes recordings.

How about "Musical and cover versions"? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• This section should be before the "Parody" one
  • It would be confusing to discuss the reception to the musical without explaining the musical first.

Right. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Angered by...→ move it to the reception portion

 Done

Reception

• Re-title perhaps to "Reception and Legacy"
• Theater Arts Monthly's → redlink
  • Redlinks encourage article creation.

Fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• "On the Sunny Side of the Street", "Life Is Just a Bowl of Cherries", and "Happy Days Are Here Again" → year of release of the songs between brackets
• Michael Lasser write that → Michael Lasser wrote that
• According to Meyerson and Harburg, the challenge that Harburg → this gets cofusing
• They write that he → The latter

 Done

Parody

• Fine

References

• The Kennedy Center, NPR → publisher
  • these refereces are accurate as they are
    • Why? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
      • OK, done. buidhe 17:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 13 has no author, title...only work and date + The New York Times should be wikilinked

 Done

External links

• Should mention the university, year of publication, full title
  • Added year. Title is obvious, I don't see how the university hosting it is relevant to include.

All the other references have it, why should this one be an exception? All external links have their publisher, why should this one be an exception? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

The university did not publish it. I added the print publisher but it is a redlink so I do not know how helpful it is.

In the same way the other redlinks are. You have a redirect at Paramount Pictures. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done

Overall

• You can now address the issues, on hold for seven days. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: only missing one thing. Moreover, are you going to add those new sources? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:43, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I will add them after you pass it. Many reviewers don't like it when the nominator adds additional sources during the review. buidhe 17:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Add them now, I would rather review them before I pass the article, there would be no need to add more information right after a GA review. Let me know once you do it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done buidhe 20:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: I made minor changes to the article, see if you are ok with those and let me know. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I have no objection. buidhe 19:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)