Talk:Bothriolepis

Plagiarism

Plaigarism? It seems that the text of this article is plaigarized off John Long's book 'The Rise of Fishes'. It should be paraphrased and expanded; Placoderms are too important to overlook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.48.72 (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you highlight which parts of the article are plagiarized, please?--Mr Fink (talk) 23:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much the whole first paragraph; fix up the references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.48.72 (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Did Bothriolepis have a backbone?

It probably did, but I just wanted to be sure. I'm thinking about digging some up, but I don't have a permit, so I don't want to get thrown in jail... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paleo Kid (talk • contribs) 20:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it did, given as how some fossils showed that it had a long tail. And then there is the fact that Class Placodermi is within Vertebrata, all members of which have a backbone to begin with.--Mr Fink (talk) 20:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and I just look at the classifications and it was in Chordata. My mistake. Paleo Kid (talk) 02:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite needed

This whole article is in urgent need of a complete rewrite, so if there are no objections I'll try to get it into shape. Bothriolepis is important genus with regards to placoderm biology and biostratigraphy so it needs an up-to-date wikipage. Incorrect info includes the stated maximum size (B. maxima is like 1.2m long!), restriction to freshwater habitats (marine Bothrios in Gogo, China and Lativia), temporal range (range well into the early Devonian in China) and even the life reconstruction (Stensio's imaginary first dorsal fin...) Ozraptor4 (talk) 09:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Species list?

Bothriolepis Temporal range: Late Devonian
Model of B. canadensis
Scientific classification
Kingdom:	Animalia
Phylum:	Chordata
Subphylum:	Vertebrata
Class:	Placodermi
Order:	Antiarchi
Family:	Bothriolepididae
Genus:	Bothriolepis Eichwald, 1840
Species
Holotype: B. ornata Eichwald, 1840 B. africana Long et al., 1997 B. alexi Young, 1988 B. alvesiensis Stensio, 1948 B. amankonyrica Malinovskaja, 1988 B. antarctica Woodward, 1921 B. askinae Young, 1988 B. babichevi Malinovskaja, 1992 B. barretti Young, 1988 B. bindareii Long, 1983 B. canadensis Whiteaves, 1880 B. cellulosa Pander, 1846 B. ciecere Lyarskaja, 1974 B. coloradensis Eastman, 1904 B. cristata Traquair, 1895 B. cullodenensis Long, 1983 B. darbiensis Denison, 1951 B. dorakarasugensis Moloshnikov, 2009 B. evaldi Lyarskaja, 1986 B. favosa Agassiz, 1844 B. fergusoni Long, 1983 B. gigantea Traquair, 1888 B. gippslandiensis Hills, 1929 B. grenfellensis Johanson, 1996 B. groenlandica Heintz, 1930 B. hayi Miles, 1968 B. heckeri Luksevics, 2001 B. hicklingi Miles, 1968 B. hydrophila Agassiz, 1844 B. jani Luksevics, 1986 B. jarviki Stensio, 1948 B. jazwicensis Szrek, 2004 B. jeremijevi B. karawaka Young, 1988 B. kassini Malinovskaja, 1988 B. kohni Young, 1988 B. kwangtungensis Pan, 1964 B. laverocklochensis Miles, 1968 B. leptocheira Traquair, 1893 B. lochangensis Pan, 1964 B. lohesti Leriche, 1931 B. macphersoni Young, 1988 B. macrocephala Egerton, 1862 B. maeandrina B. markovskii Moloshnikov, 2010 B. mawsoni Young, 1988 B. maxima Gross, 1933 B. meandrina Horrmann, 1911 B. minor Newberry, 1889 B. nielseni Stensio, 1948 B. nikitinae Malinovskaja, 1988 B. nitida Leidy, 1856 B. niushoushanensis Pan & Wang, 1980 B. obesa Traquair, 1888 B. obrutschewi Gross, 1934 B. ornata Andrews, 1982 B. panderi Lahusen, 1880 B. paradoxa Agassiz, 1845 B. pavariensis Lyarskaja, 1974 B. perija Young & Moody, 2002 B. portalensis Young, 1988 B. prima Gross, 1934 B. rex Downs et al., 2016 B. sanzarensis Moloshnikov, 2010 B. shaokuanensis Liu, 1963 B. sibrica Obruchev, 1941 B. sinensis Chi, 1940 B. sosnensis Moloshnikov, 2003 B. stevensoni Miles, 1968 B. tastenica Malinovskaja, 1988 B. tatongensis Long & Werdelin, 1985 B. taylori Miles, 1968 B. traquairi Bryant, 1924 B. trautscholdi Jaekel, 1927 B. tungseni Chang, 1965 B. turanica Obruchev, 1939 B. verrucosa Young & Gorter, 1981 B. virginiensis Weems et al., 1981 B. volongensis Lyarskaja & Luksevics, 1998 B. vuwae Young, 1988 B. warreni Long, 1983 B. wilsoni Miles, 1968 B. yeungae Johanson, 1998 B. yunnanensis Liu, 1962 B. zadonica Obrucheva, 1983

As is probably evident from the article, Bothriolepis has a huge number of species. However, for the purposes of being encyclopedic, perhaps a link could be made in the taxobox to a new page with a list of all species? Or the full list could be put in the taxobox? I'm compiling a list here for reference. Lythronaxargestes (talk) 01:39, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Species list

Holotype: B. ornata Eichwald, 1840 B. africana Long et al., 1997 B. alexi Young, 1988 B. alvesiensis Stensio, 1948 B. amankonyrica Malinovskaja, 1988 B. antarctica Woodward, 1921 B. askinae Young, 1988 B. babichevi Malinovskaja, 1992 B. barretti Young, 1988 B. bindareii Long, 1983 B. canadensis Whiteaves, 1880 B. cellulosa Pander, 1846 B. ciecere Lyarskaja, 1974 B. coloradensis Eastman, 1904 B. cristata Traquair, 1895 B. cullodenensis Long, 1983 B. darbiensis Denison, 1951 B. dorakarasugensis Moloshnikov, 2009 B. evaldi Lyarskaja, 1986 B. favosa Agassiz, 1844 B. fergusoni Long, 1983 B. gigantea Traquair, 1888 B. gippslandiensis Hills, 1929 B. grenfellensis Johanson, 1996 B. groenlandica Heintz, 1930 B. hayi Miles, 1968 B. heckeri Luksevics, 2001 B. hicklingi Miles, 1968 B. hydrophila Agassiz, 1844 B. jani Luksevics, 1986 B. jarviki Stensio, 1948 B. jazwicensis Szrek, 2004 B. jeremijevi ??? B. karawaka Young, 1988 B. kassini Malinovskaja, 1988 B. kohni Young, 1988 B. kwangtungensis Pan, 1964 B. laverocklochensis Miles, 1968 B. leptocheira Traquair, 1893 B. lochangensis Pan, 1964 B. lohesti Leriche, 1931 B. macphersoni Young, 1988 B. macrocephala Egerton, 1862 B. maeandrina ??? B. markovskii Moloshnikov, 2010 B. mawsoni Young, 1988 B. maxima Gross, 1933 B. meandrina Horrmann, 1911 B. minor Newberry, 1889 B. nielseni Stensio, 1948 B. nikitinae Malinovskaja, 1988 B. nitida Leidy, 1856 B. niushoushanensis Pan & Wang, 1980 B. obesa Traquair, 1888 B. obrutschewi Gross, 1934 B. ornata Andrews, 1982 B. panderi Lahusen, 1880 B. paradoxa Agassiz, 1845 B. pavariensis Lyarskaja, 1974 B. perija Young & Moody, 2002 B. portalensis Young, 1988 B. prima Gross, 1934 B. rex Downs et al., 2016 B. sanzarensis Moloshnikov, 2010 B. shaokuanensis Liu, 1963 B. sibrica Obruchev, 1941 B. sinensis Chi, 1940 B. sosnensis Moloshnikov, 2003 B. stevensoni Miles, 1968 B. tastenica Malinovskaja, 1988 B. tatongensis Long & Werdelin, 1985 B. taylori Miles, 1968 B. traquairi Bryant, 1924 B. trautscholdi Jaekel, 1927 B. tungseni Chang, 1965 B. turanica Obruchev, 1939 B. verrucosa Young & Gorter, 1981 B. virginiensis Weems et al., 1981 B. volongensis Lyarskaja & Luksevics, 1998 B. vuwae Young, 1988 B. warreni Long, 1983 B. wilsoni Miles, 1968 B. yeungae Johanson, 1998 B. yunnanensis Liu, 1962 B. zadonica Obrucheva, 1983

Are they all valid today, though? In any case, I don't see a need for standalone species list articles for any genera, we can just collapse the list in the taxobox, as is common for synonym lists anyway. I see that's also what you did here. Also, articles should not really have lists in the article body anyway, it should be explained in prose, and lists kept in the taxobox. FunkMonk (talk) 19:38, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Duly noted. As stated in the Species section, there's some contention over the validity of the North American species, and I have not included taxa that were considered by Luksevics (2001) as junior synonyms of other Bothriolepis species. Apart from that, I have not yet found further proposed synonyms or dubious taxa. Lythronaxargestes (talk) 20:57, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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