Talk:Bob Mann (American football)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Going to review. MWright96 (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks MWright96! Cbl62 and I collaborated on this one, so we both will hopefully be able to work through any comments you have. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Seconded. Cbl62 (talk) 19:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• Don't believe that African American needs to be linked per MOS:OVERLINK
• "He signed with the Green Bay Packers near the end of the 1950 NFL season and was the Packers leading receiver in 1951." - repetition of the word "Packers"
  • All done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Early years

• "His father, Dr. William Mann," - don't use titles such as Dr. per MOS:DOCTOR
  • Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hampton Institute

• "He joined the school's football team," - wikilink the word football to college football
• Wikilink touchdown for non-football readers
  • Both done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

University of Michigan

• Wikilink scrimmage to Line of scrimmage for those unfamiliar with football
  • I reworded instead of linking. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

1948 season

• "Although a ban on African American players in the NFL was denied by team owners at the time, no African American" - try to avoid using the phrase African American twice in one sentence
• "Mann appeared in all 12 games for the Lions, but was not included in the starting lineup in any of the Lions' games" - similar issue as above
• "it took many years for African Americans players" - typo; should be African American
• "He had played two years of basketball at Hampton Institute but did not play basketball at Michigan." - but not at Michigan.

All done. Cbl62 (talk) 15:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

1949 season

• Wikilink exhibition game for non-sports readers
• "Kerbawy ran back through the play-by-play account of the game and discovered she was right." - the sentence is too closely worded to the UP source and will need to be reworded per MOS:LIMITED
• The acronyms of United Press should be included in parentheses

All done. Cbl62 (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Salary dispute

• "Adding fuel to the negotiations," - not so sure that this is an encyclopedic statement. Better to reword it so that it is more neutral to be safe
  • Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Charges of blackballing

• "the Lions had asked him to take a 20% pay cut." - the % symbol should be replaced per MOS:PERCENT
• "The Lions' response to Mann's charge was a statement that they felt Mann was too small" - he
• "Mann filed a lawsuit against the NFL based on his belief that NFL owners" - close repetition of the word "NFL"
  • All done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

1950–1951

• "he appeared in the Packers' final home game against the San Francisco 49ers, becoming the first African-American to play for the Packers." - try not to repeat the same word in the same sentence
  • Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

1952–1955

• "who elicited comparisons to Packers' great Don Hutson," - great is not netural and will need to be removed as well as the sentence undergo a minor rephrasing
• "Mann, who "was open all afternoon as the Bears chased Howton"" - according to whom?
  • Done both. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Race

• "the 252-pound Afflis" - use the {{convert}} template on the text in bold
  • Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Those are the issues I found during my readthrough. Will put on hold for the time being. MWright96 (talk) 13:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Cbl62, it looks like everything has been addressed. Is there anything else you want to address before notifying MWrright96? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I will do a further read-through later today. Good teamwork. Thanks again. Cbl62 (talk) 22:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Awesome. Feel free to notify MWrright96 when you are finished with your review. I completed my review. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96: Thanks for your good comments. Ready for you to take another look. Cbl62 (talk) 05:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 11:25, 28 March 2020 (UTC)