Talk:Blind Man's Zoo/GA2

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Kyle Peake in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply


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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
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I will take this on for review, as it would be appropriate for me to get the article into GA status potentially because I conducted the first review; I will use that one here to help me somewhat! --K. Peake 06:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead edit

  • Infobox looks good!
  • "of the lead singer" → "of the band's lead singer" and this is a change you did not fully implement from the previous review
    Oh, I guess I did.   Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • ""Eat for Two" charted" → "The former of the two charted" to avoid starting two sentences in a row with the song's title
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Another update: I made changes to the singles info to reflect the changes in the body. --George Ho (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Update the overview of the album's reviews to mixed like it is in the body; this is one of the parts of the lead that has changed since the previous review
    I changed "mixed to positive" → "mixed". I don't know whether that would suffice. George Ho (talk) 09:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "number 13 in the" → "number 13 on the"
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "in the UK Albums Chart. It also was certified platinum in December 1997" → "on the UK Albums Chart, and was certified platinum in the US by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)." and this should be the end of the sentence because otherwise it will be too long, plus you can't start two consecutive sentences with "it".
    I rearranged the sentences especially by separating the US and the UK into their respective sentences. George Ho (talk) 09:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    George Ho Nice start, but I did some moderate copyediting to completely fix this part. --K. Peake 11:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Background and development edit

  • "lacked commercial success," → "had lacked commercial success," because this info is directly following info about the band at the time of the album's release
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "under the band's own record label" → "under their own record label" with the wikilink; another change I requested that was not done, it was suggested to avoid stating "the band" twice in the same sentence
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "second studio album," → "second studio album"
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "after they signed contract" → "after they signed a contract" you forgot to add the word "a", which is required for correct grammar
    I guess I did, eh?   Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "The album production occurred" → "The album's production occurred"
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Target mixing to Audio mixing (recorded music)
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Target Right Track Studios to MSR Studios
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Themes and lyrics edit

  • George Ho Very good to see you have responded up to here in a short amount of time; do you think all the issues will be fixed today? --K. Peake 10:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Release and promotion edit

  • "and May 15, 1989 in the UK." → "and May 15 in the United Kingdom."
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Remove wikilink on "Trouble Me"
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • You have not sourced the release dates of the track and the other two singles; add that here
    I couldn't find a reliable source verifying release dates of the singles, so I rewrote the sentence instead. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • You need to remove the commas from inside the speech marks of the song titles like I suggested
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "were released in a" → "were included on the" and this is another suggestion from the previous review you missed
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Target VHS album to video album per MOS:LINK2SECT, not the article and the section's hashtag
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "are included in its" → "were released on its"
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Critical reception edit

  • "was met with mixed reviews." → "was met with mixed reviews from music critics."
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Shouldn't the section be ordered in terms of going from most positive to most negative reviews since the reception is classified as mixed?
    I moved Anthony DeCurtis's review/statement into "Themes and lyrics" section; I haven't seen it as either positive, mixed, or negative. Nonetheless, I was able to restructure the sentences and to split paragraphs into one positive, one mixed possibly, and one negative. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    George Ho This is a better placement for sure, but I changed "the album" to "it" for avoiding writing the former too much. --K. Peake 11:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • AllMusic should not be italicised, but at least you edited the prose for this part per my suggestion
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Chicago Tribune reviewer Greg Kot" → "The Chicago Tribune reviewer Greg Kot" with the wikilink, props for finding the author by now however!
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "powerful lyricism [on] the" → "powerful lyricism" on "the" since there is a gap inbetween the parts before and after [on] that is not represented
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "theme of betrayal."" → "theme of betrayal"."
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Commercial performance edit

Track listing edit

  • Source: CD album booklet → Credits are adapted from the album's booklet.
      Done. --George Ho (talk) 10:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • The sentence on the line below this one should be a different sentence on the same line, with the ref coming after both of them
    I converted the all_lyrics parameter into manually written sentence. Please let me know if you want further changes. --George Ho (talk) 10:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    George Ho The sentence is fine, but shouldn't the ref solely be at the end of the line since it is the only one? --K. Peake 11:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Personnel edit

  • Add "Credits are adapted from the album's booklet." at the top of this section, making that the sole place where [2] is invoked
  • ("Trouble Me") → (track 4)

Charts edit

  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION
    Unsure which part is necessary. If captions, then I've added them. George Ho (talk) 11:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    George Ho You're off to a good start, though the caption should be something like "Weekly chart performance for Blind Man's Zoo". --K. Peake 11:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
      Done per above suggestion. --George Ho (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • The charts should be alphabetically ordered
      Done. George Ho (talk) 11:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Certifications edit

  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION
    Unsure which part is necessary. If captions, then I've added them. George Ho (talk) 11:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

References edit

External links edit

  • Mention the website the lyrics are at
      Done and reformatted. Also, I tagged the link as dead link; fortunately, the archive link has been already given. --George Ho (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Final comments and verdict edit

  •   On hold for a week until the issues are fixed, but the article is a lot better from when I reviewed it the first time; props for your progress, and hopefully you can get everything done in less than a week! --K. Peake 09:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • George Ho  Pass for this article even though I did some brief copy editing where you missed only a few points, amazing improvement on the response from last time! --K. Peake 21:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)Reply