Talk:Bini (group)
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Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... The page was not created by Philippinesfan. It was created by me. Waykurat nominates it for deletion because it was created by sock puppet account which is Philippinesfan. Please fix this issue. --ArriehM (talk) 11:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
You should investigate it first before you nominates it Username:WayKurat. ArriehM (talk) 12:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes, Waykurat’s claim is evidently unsubstantiated. ArriehM is the page creator. Please fix this. SenyorOtter (talk) 12:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... (the page was created by user ArriehM, not by blocked user/sock-puppet Philippinesfan. Also, the page was edited/improved substantially by ArriehM and yours truly since its creation, with reliable citations added. Since then the mentioned sock-puppet has not added significant contributions to this page that may compromise its legitimacy. Please reconsider this.) --SenyorOtter (talk) 12:07, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Spotify list
edit@AstrooKai. need to clarify. Didn't they previously top the list on April 18, making the first Filipino distinction proper on that date and not June? Borgenland (talk) 08:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @Borgenland. Yes, they previously topped a list on April 18, but that was for Spotify's Daily Top Songs Philippines chart. The recent event of them topping in a Spotify chart was for the Daily Top Artists Philippines chart, where they surpassed Taylor Swift on June 14. AstrooKai. (talk) 08:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Point taken. Thanks for the clarification. Borgenland (talk) 08:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to help. AstrooKai. (talk) 09:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Point taken. Thanks for the clarification. Borgenland (talk) 08:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 17 June 2024
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Bini (group) → BINI (group) – Borgenland (talk) 15:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC) Every RS is referring to them in uppercase. Borgenland (talk) 15:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose per MOS:TRADEMARK. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 16:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as per 98Tigerius; Spam (food) is not at SPAM. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as per Wikipedia's policy on trademarks, as cited by 98Tigerius. While the group uses all caps in their branding, Wikipedia's conventions generally favor sentence cases for article titles on conditions like this. Similar cases exist where the trademark of a group is stylized in all caps, but not here on Wikipedia. Consider Blackpink, Got7, and Seventeen as examples. Normally, these are stylized as BLACKPINK, GOT7, and SEVENTEEN, respectively, but not here. AstrooKai (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to clarify then, does trademark take precedence over usage in RS and secondary sources (at least in this case)? Borgenland (talk) 02:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm unfortunately not sure about that one. The general rules of MOS:TRADEMARK says that standard English text formatting and capitalization must be followed, regardless of the formatting commonly used by trademark owners. Although, there are some exceptions where the trademark is stylized the same way as from reliable sources.
Exceptions may apply, but Wikipedia relies on sources to determine when an unusual name format has become conventional for a particular trademark; only names that are consistently styled a particular way by a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are styled that way in Wikipedia.
— MOS:TRADEMARK- Perhaps, this exception clause can be placed into consideration. AstrooKai (talk) 07:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- For reference, I did run through every major newspaper and the big 3 television networks in the country, plus Rappler, after which I felt a move could be justified. Borgenland (talk) 08:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to clarify then, does trademark take precedence over usage in RS and secondary sources (at least in this case)? Borgenland (talk) 02:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)