Talk:Biblins Bridge

Is the English end in Gloucestershire or Herefordshire

Ghmyrtle/Martinevans123 - I had always understood that the English end of the bridge was in Herefordshire. But I'm now beginning to doubt myself and wonder if it's in Gloucestershire. This source, [1], says, rather unhelpfully, "The bridge is on the river as it crosses through Gloucestershire and Herefordshire". Either of you have a source to confirm? KJP1 (talk) 12:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Anywhere north of the river there is Herefordshire, surely? Do you need a specific source or just a look at an Ordnance Survey map? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, the address for Biblins Camp is given as Ross-on-Wye and Google Earth shows it sits slam at the English end of the bridge, so I'm sure you're right. I'd just like a source that I could slap in as a cite. Were it listed - which it ain't - there'd be two listings a la Old Wye Bridge, Chepstow, with its Cadw and Historic England designations. KJP1 (talk) 12:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Ha, you and your listings! It's obviously affected your view of things... Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Don't! I'm still recovering from User:Johnbod describing my beloved listing details as "dull bureaucratic cruft"! KJP1 (talk) 12:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Ouch. Personally, I'd never put you in that kennel. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

According to MAGIC, the north end is definitely in Whitchurch parish, which is Herefordshire. I assume that link would do as a citation. Dave.Dunford (talk) 14:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The bridge is on a confusing section of the river, where the "Eastern bank" is in Wales and the "Western bank" is in England; we should mention this peculiarity. The right bank is in Herefordshire, near Symonds Yat, and the left bank is in Monmouthshire, near The Kymin. This is shown in the 1:50000 Ordnance Survey map.[2] Verbcatcher (talk) 19:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Isn't it more North/South? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

This immediate section of the river here is east-west, but the river meanders. The overall path from Hereford and Chepstow is north-south.

Verbcatcher (talk) 20:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I mean, looking at a map of the bridge, it's very close to lying on a North to South axis across the river? So one might say it has a south bank and a north bank? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

What I am trying to point out is that if you took a boat from Symonds Yat to Chepstow, almost all of the way would have Wales on your right side and England on your left side. This small section is the other way around. For a meandering river, it is clearer to describe 'left bank' and 'right bank' (see Bank (geography)), rather than compass directions. Wales has effectively an enclave on the left bank of the Wye, opposite Monmouth. Verbcatcher (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Yes, I've canoed down it.... so I know. Well personally I'd probably always say "north bank" and "south bank" for this bridge! But if that's the (very surprising) advice, so be it. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

All good for me! I've also canoed under it, on my way to my brother's stag at some tepees next to St Peter's Church, Dixton. But, having, dangerously and foolishly, imbibed on the way, it was as much as I could do to differentiate between upright and drowning, let alone left/right v north/south. KJP1 (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)