Talk:Bamboo ceiling

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Copy Edits

Hello!

I made two minor changes to the beginning sentences of the article. First, I changed the spelling from "organisational" to "organizational" to match the spelling later in the sentence. Also, I changed the wording of "American people of Asian descent" to just "Asian-American" to make the sentence flow easier.

Va1tz7 (talk) 17:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions for Improvement

Hello, here are a few of my suggestions for improving this start-level article. 1) Add on to the shorter sections of the article such as "political underrepresentation" or "underrepresentation in education". 2) Work on the quality and/or length of the lead section. The opening piece of an article should be more concise and not focus on subtopics that are addressed later in the article. 3) Add a section on intersectionality and how it relates to the bamboo ceiling. Giving readers information on this will allow them to have a better understanding of the topic as a whole.

Hello! I just made a minor change to the opening sentence so that it would flow better for the readers. All I did was remove "her book focusing on Asians in the workplace" that was placed in between Jane Hyun and the title of her work. It just felt a little unnecessary and oddly placed. Va1tz7 (talk) 22:35, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Final Edits

Hi! I just added in my final edits to the article. All the sources are cited within the article but if you are interested in learning more about them, I have an annotated bibliography posted on my sandbox. Also in my sandbox, you can find a copy of my contribution plan that will make it a lot easier to see exactly what I changed about the article. If you have any questions about my edits, please do not hesitate to reach out! Thanks and take care. Va1tz7 (talk) 22:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Significance of media representation disparity

In the subection "Media underrepresentation" of the section "Other forms of Asian American underrepresentation in American society", the first line talks about how despite Asian Americans making up 5.6% of the population, only 5.3% of actors/characters shown on film are Asian American. I think that the closeness of these two numbers merits a further elaboration of whether this difference is significant or not, because it seems quite likely that a 0.3% disparity is quite within the range of stochastic effects (i.e., the difference points not to a real effect that discourages Asian American representation on screen, but just noise, as it is unlikely that actor representation would exactly reflect the population distribution of any ethnic group, especially not at the 0.1% level). If no such elaboration can be given, this line should be deleted, as it seems not notable at all. Krolp (talk) 04:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Renaming/rewriting underrepresentation section

The underrepresentation section lists various areas wherein Asian Americans are underrepresented, but at times appears to selectively provide statistics. In particular, the section on underrepresentation in business utilizes outdated information on Asian American CEO percentage, while neglecting to mention the outsized representation of Asian Americans among new board members. The data for these sections need to be updated, and perhaps compiled into tables, as the prose is often repetitive from section to section. Jevandezande (talk) 21:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Bamboo Ceiling is a trademark owned by Jane Hyun through the US Trademark Office.

I edited the page to make clear "bamboo ceiling" is trademarked. This helps protect the TM owner's rights. An editor twice removed my changes as "humor." No joke is intended, nor is it a laughing matter. 108.29.7.187 (talk) 19:05, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Although the term was coined by Jane Hyun, it has now been adopted by management scholars and activists as a way to describe both the structural and social discrimination that occurs against Asian Americans that prevent them from receiving promotions, raises, and leadership positions in the workforce. Despite being coined by her, the discussion of the topic should not be limited to her ideas as the term simply describes a phenomenon that has existed for a long time in Western society. This article should acknowledge the histories of discrimination against Asians since their arrival into North America in the 1800s and the many discriminatory policies created to exclude them from the workplace. Discussion on 'Yellow Peril' and 'perpetual foreigner syndrome' will ground this article in the historical context necessary to understand why the problem is rooted in racism and oppression. Overall, this article is extremely problematic because it wrongly characterizes Asian Americans as their own barriers instead of looking at the structural inequalities and power imbalances that create this issue. Acam320b1 (talk) 18:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Why am I not allowed to remove Desi people from this article about the Bamboo Ceiling?

Desi people are obviously not part of this concept of the "Bamboo Ceiling", the term Bamboo is clearly meant to refer to Chinese and people residing in Sinosphere countries as a whole. The article even later goes on to state Desi people don't have a problem attaining leadership positions at these organizations. Sambapop11 (talk) 23:25, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we follow what the cited sources say, and the cited source includes Desi/South asian people. If you just write 'removed incorrect information' in an edit summary and change the article away from what the cited sources state, you can expect to be reverted. MrOllie (talk) 23:33, 5 July 2023 (UTC)