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He is now emeritus

http://uwm.edu/math/people/tsonis-anastasios/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith McClary (talk • contribs) 23:38, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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First, I would like to thank whoever wrote the article about me in Wikipedia. However, the contents are one lopsided, mainly on my results related to climate shifts and how they relate to global warming. While this is one of my most important works, my major contributions to atmospheric science are: 1) popularizing chaos theory in the atmospheric sciences community in a series of papers in late 1980s and early 1990s [1,2] , and 2) introducing networks to the climate community in 2004 [3,4]. Since then a whole new area is opened in applying networks to climate problem with very new and interesting results. My results related to the global warming issue are the result of these applications.

I also do not think that being a member of the Global Warming Policy Foundation should be in the opening sentence. Maybe at the end of the article.

[1] A.A. Tsonis and J.B. Elsner, 1989: Chaos, Strange Attractors and Weather, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 70(1), 14-23. [2] J.B. Elsner and A.A. Tsonis, 1992: Nonlinear Prediction, Chaos, and Noise, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 73(1), 49-60. [3] A.A. Tsonis and P.J. Roebber, 2004: The Architecture of the Climate Network, Physica A, 333, 497-504. [4] A.A. Tsonis, K.L. Swanson, and P.J. Roebber, 2006: What Do Networks Have to Do With Climate?, Bull.Amer. Meteor. Soc., DOI:101175/BAMS-87-5-585

I would appreciate it if the author of the article contacts me or makes the changes.

Thank you

Anastasios Tsonis (aatsonis@uwm.edu) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aatsonis (talk • contribs) 14:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 22-SEP-2019

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Dear Sir/Madame

1) The opening sentence: Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee. He is a member of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.[1]

should change to:

Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.

2) The Education section:

Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis.[2] He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[3]

should be revised as:

Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[1]

3) In the Academic Career section reference [2] should change to [1]

4) The Research section should be revised as follows:

Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books [1]. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images [2]. He soon, however, moved into the area of chaos theory where he had major contributions. He was instrumental in popularizing the theory of chaos in the atmospheric sciences in a series of papers in the late 1980s and early 1990s [3,4]. In many of his publications and books in this area, he advanced the use of nonlinear approaches to study the variability of weather and climate. In the early 2000s, Tsonis was the first scientist to introduce networks to the climate community [5,6]. His work on climate networks opened a whole new area of research which has led to many new and interesting insights on climate variability. One important result is that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts that are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming” [7,8]. These results, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate.

5) The References section should be revised accordingly:

1. https://people.uwm.edu/aatsonis/ 2. A.A. Tsonis and G.A. Isaac, 1985: On a New Approach for Instantaneous Rain Area Delineation in the Midlatitudes Using GOES Data. J. Climate Appl. Meteor. 24, 1208-1218. 3. A.A. Tsonis and J.B. Elsner, 1989: Chaos, Strange Attractors and Weather, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 70(1), 14-23. 4. J.B. Elsner and A.A. Tsonis, 1992: Nonlinear Prediction, Chaos, and Noise, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 73(1), 49-60. 5. A.A. Tsonis and P.J. Roebber, 2004: The Architecture of the Climate Network, Physica A, 333, 497-504. 6. A.A. Tsonis, K.L. Swanson, and P.J. Roebber, 2006: What Do Networks Have to Do With Climate?, Bull.Amer. Meteor. Soc., DOI:101175/BAMS-87-5-585 7. A.A. Tsonis, K.L. Swanson, and S. Kravtsov, 2007: A new dynamical mechanism for major. climate shifts. Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L13705, doi:10.1029/2007GL030288. 8. K.L. Swanson and A.A. Tsonis, 2009: Has the climate recently shifted? Geophys. Res. Lett. doi:10.1029/2008GL037022.

The reason I require these changes is because what is presented now about my career and work is focused on the issue of global warming which, while it is part of my research, is not the center of my career. The current article is lopsided as is evident that most of the references are TV and newspaper references.

Sincerely,

Anastasios A. Tsonis aatsonis@uwm.edu

Aatsonis (talk) 15:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 24-SEP-2019

  Edit request partially implemented  

• A section which discusses the subject's findings in depth is not ideal, as Wikipedia is not a substitute for the subject's research papers.
• A citation needed inline template was applied to the claim regarding the Hydrologic Research Center, as that didn't appear to be referenced.

Regards,  Spintendo  06:38, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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The website of the Hydrologic Research Center is https://www.hrcwater.org.

Regarding my revision of the research section: I really don't see how what I wrote is more "detailed" than what was written by somebody who does not really know my full work. Please reconsider. As it stands now it only refers to one subject, which seems politically motivated.

Respectfully,

Anastasios Tsonis aatsonis@uwm.edu

Aatsonis (talk) 13:34, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 24-SEP-2019

The problems with the prose you suggested are shown below in bold font:

Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of chaos theory where he had major contributions. He was instrumental in popularizing the theory of chaos in the atmospheric sciences in a series of papers in the late 1980s and early 1990s. In many of his publications and books in this area, he advanced the use of nonlinear approaches to study the variability of weather and climate. In the early 2000s, Tsonis was the first scientist to introduce networks to the climate community. His work on climate networks opened a whole new area of research which has led to many new and interesting insights on climate variability. One important result is that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts that are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate.

The bolded words shown above make claims that are not substantiated by the provided sources. Many of them are not capable of being substantiated, yet are placed using Wikipedia's voice, which gives them a certain authenticity which cannot be given when the claims are not capable of being substantiated (i.e., how "major" were the contributions... and how "new" or "interesting" are his insights?) Whether something is "interesting" or "major" cannot be claimed using Wikipedia's voice, as these terms are WP:PEA and WP:AWW terms. Regards,  Spintendo  19:46, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Sir/Madame

I understand your concerns. I tried to modify my revisions so that they align with your policies. Please let me know if the following acceptable to you.

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1) The opening sentence: I know provide requested reference: Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California[1]. 2) The Education section: Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis.[1] He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[2] should be revised as: Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[2] 3) The Research section should be revised as follows: Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books [2]. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images [3]. He soon, however, moved into the area of chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences where he published papers on the nonlinearity and dimensionality of weather [4,5]. In many of his publications and books in this area, he used nonlinear approaches to study the variability of weather and climate [6]. In the early 2000s, Tsonis published results using networks for climate studies [7,8]. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts that are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming” [9,10]. These results, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. 5) The References section should be revised accordingly: 1. https://www.hrcwater.org 2. https://people.uwm.edu/aatsonis/ 3. A.A. Tsonis and G.A. Isaac, 1985: On a New Approach for Instantaneous Rain Area Delineation in the Midlatitudes Using GOES Data. J. Climate Appl. Meteor. 24, 1208-1218. 4. A.A. Tsonis and J.B. Elsner, 1989: Chaos, Strange Attractors and Weather, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 70(1), 14-23. 5. J.B. Elsner and A.A. Tsonis, 1992: Nonlinear Prediction, Chaos, and Noise, Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 73(1), 49-60. 6. A.A. Tsonis, 1992: Chaos: From Theory to Applications, Plenum Press, New York, 271 pp. 7. A.A. Tsonis and P.J. Roebber, 2004: The Architecture of the Climate Network, Physica A, 333, 497-504. 8. A.A. Tsonis, K.L. Swanson, and P.J. Roebber, 2006: What Do Networks Have to Do With Climate?, Bull.Amer. Meteor. Soc., DOI:101175/BAMS-87-5-585 9. A.A. Tsonis, K.L. Swanson, and S. Kravtsov, 2007: A new dynamical mechanism for major. climate shifts. Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L13705, doi:10.1029/2007GL030288. 10. K.L. Swanson and A.A. Tsonis, 2009: Has the climate recently shifted? Geophys. Res. Lett. doi:10.1029/2008GL037022. The reason I require these changes is because what is presented now about my career and work is focused on the issue of global warming which, while it is part of my research, is not the center of my career. The current article is lopsided as is evident that most of the references are TV and newspaper references. See references 7-12!!!!

Sincerely,

Anastasios A. Tsonis aatsonis@uwm.edu Aatsonis (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 24-SEP-2019

• The article reflects what the references from reliable, independent WP:SECONDARY sources have said about the subject. Proper WP:WEIGHT in the article cannot be achieved by countering those claims with research performed by the subject in their own articles (i.e., WP:UNDUE).
• To add these claims, please provide sources which discuss the subject's other research and which have been published in reliable, independent, secondary sources rather than in the subject's own work.

Regards,  Spintendo  21:08, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Sir/Madame

I understand your concerns, and I agree that I should provide those reliable secondary sources/references. I have done this and I attache below the revised sections and references. I hope this satisfies your concerns.

REVISED SECTION

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1) The opening sentence: I now provide requested reference: "Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California[1]." 2) The Education section: "Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis.[1] He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[2]" should be revised as: "Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.[2]" 3) The Research section should be revised as follows: Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books [2]. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images [3]. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos [4,5, 6,7, 8,9]. In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system [10,11]. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming” [12,13]. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate [14,15,16,]. 5) The References section should be revised accordingly: 1. https://www.hrcwater.org 2. https://people.uwm.edu/aatsonis/ 3. Tsonis, Anastasios A.; and G.A. Isaac, George A. (1985). “On a New Approach for Instantaneous Rain Area Delineation in the Midlatitudes Using GOES Data”. J. Climate Appl. Meteor. 24, 1208-1218. 4. Tsonis, Anastasios A.; Elsner, James B. (1989). “Chaos, Strange Attractors and Weather”. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 70(1), 14-23. 5. Elsner, James B.; Tsonis Anastasios A. (1992). “Nonlinear Prediction, Chaos, and Noise”. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 73(1), 49-60. 6. Tsonis, Anastasios A. (1992). “Chaos: From Theory to Applications”, Plenum Press, New York, 271 pp. 7. Pool, Robert (10 March 1989). “Is Something Strange About the Weather?” Research News, Science, Vol. 243, 1290-1293. 8. Irion, Robert (29 June 1988). "A Calculated Guess On Weather". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 10 October 2014. 9. Arvonny, Maurice (22 June 1988). “La Meteo Impossible”. Le Monde, Paris. 10. Tsonis, Anastasios A.; Roebber, Paul J. (2004) “The Architecture of the Climate Network”. Physica A, 333, 497-504. 11. Tsonis, Anastasios A.; Swanson, Kyle, L.; Roebber, Paul J. (2006). “What Do Networks Have to Do With Climate?” Bull.Amer. Meteor. Soc., doi:101175/BAMS-87-5-585 12. Tsonis, Anastasios A.; Swanson, Kyle, L.; Kravtsov, Sergey (2007) “A New Dynamical Mechanism for Major Climate Shifts”. Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L13705, doi:10.1029/2007GL030288. 13. Swanson, Kyle L.; Tsonis, Anastasios A. (2009) “Has the Climate Recently Shifted?” Geophys. Res. Lett. doi:10.1029/2008GL037022. 14. Bergquist, Lee ; Content, Thomas (26 March 2009). “Natural Forces Stalling Global Warming”. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. 15. Jacoby, Jeff (8 March 2009). “Where’s Global Warming?”. The Boston Globe. Also reported in “The Week” magazine 20 March 2009. 16. Reilly, Michael (2 March 2009). “Warming Might be on Hold, Study Finds”. MSNBC.com. Also reported in “The Week” magazine 20 March 2009.

Sincerely,

Anastasios A. Tsonis aatsonis@uwm.edu Aatsonis (talk) 14:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

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INCORRECT The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 Kelvin.[3] 1. Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1. 2. Harinath, Paramjit. "Size of the Moon", Science, 51(78):46. 3. Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2. In the example above there are three references provided with the claim statements, but these references have not been placed in the text using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the Anastasios Tsonis article. Instead, bracketed numbers which do not link to anything have been placed in the prose. Ref tags need to be placed in the prose which automatically link to the source in the reference section. Using the correct style and the correct positioning of the ref tags, the WikiFormatted text should resemble the following: CORRECT The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.booksource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Harinath|first1=Paramjit|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Science|issue=78|volume=51|url=http://www.journalsource.com|date=2018|page=46}}</ref> The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.<ref>{{cite book|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.websource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=2}}</ref> Which displays as: The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles, while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles. The Sun's temperature is 5,778 Kelvin. References In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which links the claim and its reference together. These ref tags have been placed in the exact location where the text which they reference resides, making it easier to determine which reference belongs to which claim. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review. Determining which reference goes with which claim will allow the reviewer to more easily see which claims are acceptable to add to the article.

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Dear Sir/Madame

Tank you for your help. It's a learning experience for me!

I have one question: Is the Bidcode associated with a publications automatically generated by its DOI? If no, how do I find it?

Thank you in advance

Anastasios Tsonis

Aatsonis (talk) 14:25, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by Bidcode. The reference itself can be generated automatically by the DOI. Just click cite journal, enter the DOI and click the magnifying glass symbol. The system will automatically populate the fields for you. Please be sure to note which passages of text and their references are to be removed, along with which passages of text along with their references are to be added. Regards,  Spintendo  18:43, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Spintendo

I have revised my page according to your last reply. Thank you very much for all your help. Hopefully, this revised page will pass your review! Here is the new page. The box on the upper right can stay as it.

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Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.. Education Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982. Academic Career After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017. Research Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books.. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }} In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. Thanks again Anastasios Tsonis Aatsonis (talk) 18:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC) References request edit Okay, Here we go again ____________________________________________ Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.. Education Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982. Academic Career After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017. Research Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books.. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }} In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. References

Thank you Anastasios Tsonis

Aatsonis (talk) 21:17, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

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Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.. Education Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982. Academic Career After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017. Research Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books.. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }} In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. References {{request edit}} Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.. Education Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982. Academic Career After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017. Research Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books.. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }} In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. References {{request edit}} Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California.. Education Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982. Academic Career After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017. Research Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books.. Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images. He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }} In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate. Dear Spintendo It looks that I finally fixed the references, but because I requested edit three times they show three times for a total of 41 references. Anyway, I will wait a bit and resubmit it together with the explanations you requested in your previous message. References

Sincerely,

Anastasios Tsonis

Reply 29-SEP-2019

  Edit request declined  

• Thank you for fixing everything, it's much appreciated.
• Unfortunately these sources can't be used for these claims, as they were written by you. Wikipedia is not the place for posting original research, per WP:NOR.

Regards,  Spintendo  16:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Dear Spintendo

I have been working with you for days but it looks that you are not willing to accept my revisions on my article. I have followed your advise only to tell me (after I corrected all problems) that you cannot publish my article because I talk about me. But, It is about me and the present article, as I have tried to explain many times, has inaccuracies. Again, I wonder, how come somebody can write anything on me without consulting me, and then I cannot correct it because I talk about me!

Today I received the following message fro Wikipedia: _____________________ Anastasios Tsonis

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It appears that the subject of Anastasios Tsonis (Aatsonis) has been making repeated requests on Talk:Anastasios Tsonis for changes to be made to the article about him. These requests have almost all been answered, but none of his proposed edits have been made. However, recently the subject apparently made two edit requests that Spintendo (who has been communicating with the subject and responding to most of his previous requests) found so egregious that they had to be reverted on the basis of WP:IDHT: [13] I am not sure that this was the best way to handle this situation, given that this editor is fundamentally doing what he is supposed to do (propose edits on the talk page). But of course a never-ending back and forth with him is not ideal either. Input is requested. IntoThinAir (talk) 17:41, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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At least somebody is listening. So, I resubmit to you my revised article and my explanations regarding adding/deleting references. I hope that finally you make the edits.

Thank you

Anastasios Tsonis

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Dear Spintendo

From the existing article, I kept references [2], [3], and [4] (now they show as [6], [10], and [13], I have updated reference [1] (it now shows as [2], [3], and [4]) and eliminated the rest [5-10]. The reason for doing that, as I explained in our previous conversation, is because they are lopsided and politically motivated. For example, the Solomon reference [5], refers to us as “deniers”, which is politically motivated. Also, reference [8] from the Maclver Institute is wrong for two reasons. First, I never had this interview with them, and secondly, I never predicted a 50-year cooling in any of my publications or interviews. Our prediction was a 30-year cooling starting around 2000.

In the revised version that I am trying to submit, I have added reference [1] to indicate my second affiliation with the Hydrologic Research Center. I have added references [5], [7], and [8] to provide more evidence on my work on satellite data and chaos. I kept the Nature reference (now reference [6]). As secondary references to this, I kept the Chicago Tribune reference (now reference [10]) and added the Science magazine reference (now reference [9]). Both those references are obviously from very reliable sources.

For my work on networks and global warming I kept reference [4] (now reference [14]) and I have added references [11], [12] and [13] to provide more sources of my scholarly work in this area. As secondary references to this, I have added references [15], [16], and [17]. I need to stress that the secondary references that I have added in my edited version, report on the same subjects and results that the secondary reference I removed, but from more reliable sources (Pulitzer Prize winners Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Boston Globe and MSNBC).

As a result of these changes the “Research” part of the article, while maintaining the main points of the existing article, is completely re-written.

I made another effort to fix the formatting problems with some reference. Hopefully, they are fine now, and hopefully I answered you questions to your satisfaction. I am not trying to manipulate Wikipedia for my benefit. I am just trying to correct some incorrect or biased points. I find it unfair that somebody will go and write an article about somebody else without consulting his/her subject.

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Anastasios Tsonis is a Greek-American atmospheric scientist and an emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an adjunct scientist at the Hydrologic Research Center in San Diego, California..

Education

Tsonis was born in the Greek city of Elefsis. He received his BS from Aristotelian University in 1976 and his PhD from McGill University in 1982.

Academic Career

After receiving his PhD, Tsonis became a postdoctoral fellow at the Atmospheric Environment Service, a branch of the Meteorological Service of Canada. He then joined the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, where he remained until he retired in 2017.

Research

Tsonis is the author of over 130 peer reviewed publications and nine books..

Tsonis career begun with his research in rainfall estimation from satellite images.

He soon, however, moved into the area of nonlinear dynamics and chaos theory and its applications to atmospheric sciences. In the mid to late 1980s he and several other scientists published results that suggested that weather variables may be characterized by a low-dimensional chaos. }}

In the early 2000s, Tsonis used graph theory and networks to study properties of the climate system. In his 2007 and 2009 papers in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, he reported result that synchronization between major climate modes can explain the climate shifts from “warming” to “cooling” regimes, which are superimposed on the low-frequency signal known as “global warming”. These results, which have been extensively discussed in the media, while they do not exclude anthropogenic effects on climate, point to the fact that other natural factors and dynamics are also responsible for the variability of climate.

Note that Tsonis in his comment above is referring to a discussion I started, see WP:COIN#Anastasios Tsonis. Spintendo may want to comment there. IntoThinAir (talk) 22:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)