Talk:Alfred P. Sloan Foundation

some copyvio etc

first 2 lines or more are from their website http://www.sloan.org/main.shtml . It is also not very NPOV. special, random,Merkinsmum 22:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

a lot of the rest of it is from http://www.adcouncil.org/default.aspx?id=223 -unless that is a copy of this? It's an advertisment (that link is- and by association, this article is) for the foundation. special, random,Merkinsmum 23:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

another sentence is mainly from here (scroll down a bit, highlighted for ease of reading) http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:W5LSiPTgZ0oJ:www-math.mit.edu/department/awards.html+The+Sloan+Fellowships+are+annual+awards+given+to+more+than+100+young+researchers+and+university+faculty,+to+further+studies+in+science,+economics,+neuroscience,+computer+science,+and+molecular+biology.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk In reality most of this is perhaps from the sloan site somewhere? special, random,Merkinsmum 23:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

They have benefited humanity specially in the area of cancer.

Undue weight

Although the Sloan Foundation award to the Wikimedia Foundation is big news for WMF and its projects, this is not the most significant award it ever presented and no other awards are mentioned within the article. If no one expands the article to include a survey of Sloan Foundation gifts, I propose eliminating the specific mention of WMF. I removed that mention once last night and another IP swiftly re-added it. Do other editors agree that's undue weight and recentism? Durova^Charge! 20:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I do not think it is undue weight. P3 discusses a number of aspects of the work of the foundation. I'd rather add more about their other work, than less about the wikipedia award. That said, I see your point and would not oppose your removal, if you decide that way. Meanwhile, thanks for the cash, APSF. Much appreciated.--Tagishsimon (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Disagree as well. Even if it was only $100 it should be included precisely because it relates to Wikipedia, in the same way that newspapers, magazines and non-fiction books reveal any ties between themselves and a subject. Always best to keep such things out in the open least some paranoid types decide to make an issue of it. SteveCoppock (talk) 02:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

With regards to the donation

Does anyone else think we (as Wikipedian editors) owe it to them to at least bring up their article to GA status? If someone gave me 3 mil I'd feel pretty obligated to give something back! See [1] for press release. -- œ^™ 23:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

œ Not at all. Donations are made without expecting any editorial changes in return. Not even implicitly. A sense of debt from the community would just undermine the supposed independence of Wikipedia from corporate interests. --MarioGom (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Good point. -- œ^™ 06:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Where's the money?

Where does the foundation earn it's current money, and or how did its "nest egg" grow so large? No body has said word one. This seems a good line of inquiry for the main article.
LP-mn (talk) 03:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

LP-mn: Probably initially from Sloan's personal fortune. Only in 1937 he donated US$10 million to the Foundation, which adjusted to inflation is roughly US$180 million today ([2]). Add further donations as well as endowment building, and you probably end up at current situation. Anyway, if you find any reliable source about the foundation donors, it would be a great addition for the article. --MarioGom (talk) 19:17, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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Request edit 17-SEP-2018

I want to be 100% transparent. I am a long-time consultant to the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation and would like to suggest changes to address existing content on this page that is now out-of-date. The section "Gomory and Joskow presidencies (1989–present)" is no longer accurate because Paul Joskow is no longer president of the foundation. I suggest making the following changes:

1) removing the extensive biographical section about Paul Joskow (currently under Leadership)

2) moving the bulk of the information currently listed under "Gomory and Joskow presidencies (1989–present)" to the "Programs" section.

3) Replacing the current "Leadership" section with a "Presidents" section that lists each president in chronological order, much like the Ford Foundation page does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Foundation#Presidents

Here is a list of all of the Foundation’s presidents, with source links for the ones that are not currently mentioned on the page:

Alfred P. Sloan Jr. 1934-1961

Everett Case 1962-1968 [Source link: http://www4.colgate.edu/scene/sept2000/case.html]

Nils Y. Wessell 1968-1979 [Source link: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/us/09wessell.html]

Albert Rees 1979-1988 https://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/07/us/albert-rees-71-labor-economist-and-an-adviser-to-president-ford.html

Ralph E. Gomory 1989-2007

Paul L. Joskow 2008-2017

Adam F. Falk 2018 - Present — Preceding unsigned comment added by P. Giglio (talk • contribs) 15:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2018

  Edit request partially implemented  

1. Y The Joskow section was removed as requested.
2. Y The list of past presidents was added to the article.
3. N The bulk of the information under the Gomory and Joskow presidencies section could not be moved because it was otherwise omitted (See Additional changes below).
4.  Additional changes
   1. Sections of text which were found to be insufficiently paraphrased from the source material, or else were unreferenced, were omitted from the article. This includes portions of the Gomory and Joskow presidencies section, much of the Leadership section, and portions of the Programs section.
   2. The More citations needed template was appended to the article.
   3. Paul Joskow's name was replaced with Adam Falk's name under the Key People parameter of the infobox.

Regards,  spintendo  12:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Notes

Request edit 4-OCT-2018

Suggest adding the following information to the end of the current “Programs” section:

The Sloan Foundation is the primary funder of the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, a major astronomical survey that began data collection in 2000. [Wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloan_Digital_Sky_Survey]

In 1945, the Sloan Foundation donated $4 million to launch the Sloan Kettering Cancer Institute, now the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. [ Source linl: https://www.mskcc.org/blog/sloan-kettering-institute-marks-70-years-changing]

In 1950, the Sloan Foundation made a gift of more than $5 million to establish a School of Industrial Management, now known as the MIT Sloan School of Management. [Source link: http://mitsloan.mit.edu/about-mit-sloan/history/] — Preceding unsigned comment added by P. Giglio (talk • contribs) 17:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC)