Talk:Aircraft industry of Russia

References.

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References

Industry structure

Perhaps something like this should be added into the article. Better check it, I'm not sure about the current ownership of Sokol, Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association and Aviakor. Also there is or there was a manufacturer called MAPO, I don't know how it fits into the structure if it still exists.

Structure

United Aircraft Corporation	Oboronprom (helicopters)	Other major producers:
Ilyushin Voronezh Aircraft Production Association Irkut Corporation Beriev BETA AIR Irkutsk Aviation Plant IRKUT AviaSTEP Design Bureau Russian Avionics Design Bureau Mikoyan Sokol Sukhoi Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association Tupolev Yakovlev	Kamov Kazan Helicopter Plant Mil Helicopters Rostvertol Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant	Aviakor Aviastar-SP Kazan Aircraft Production Association Myasishchev Novosibirsk Aircraft Production Association Technoavia

Oboronprom should be mentioned in the Consolidation section.

I would also add into the article a gallery of aircraft products, or a table with pictures if possible. Greyhood (talk) 19:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this table is a good idea. I've neglegted the helicopter sector in the history section. I think Russian Helicopters JSC should be mentioned instead of Oboronprom, because it's the direct owner of the companies? Here is some information about MAPO - I'm planning to include it in the history too. A gallery would be a great idea as well. Offliner (talk) 19:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

UAC owns 25.5% of NAPO, and Sukhoi 74.5%.[1] Should list NAPO under UAC, although UAC does not have over 50% ownership? Perhaps it can be listed under UAC with the percentage as a clarification. And the some for other partly owned companies. Offliner (talk) 19:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, better add percents. And shouldn't we list NAPO under Sukhoi under UAC? Greyhood (talk) 19:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thermoplans

This may be added into New projects. Greyhood (talk) 19:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's economically significant enough to warrant an inclusion. You're free to add it yourself though. Offliner (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm also not sure about the economic significance, but Medvedev seems to support the idea of dirigible production in Russia [2], [3], [4] Greyhood (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

MAKS Airshow

MAKS Airshow definitely should be mentioned somewhere, and some related pictures may be of use. Greyhood (talk) 20:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC) Media related to MAKS Airshow at Wikimedia Commons

History

What you you think of the prose narrative in "history"? It's not perfect, especially since I cannot find good info about the history of the military segment. How much did they produce/export in the 1990s and when did things start to get better? I don't think I will be able to improve this section much further. Offliner (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Since when does the history of the Russian industry begin after the fall of SU? What about pre-WW1/WW1? Interwar? Or even (eek!) in the Great Patriotic War? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 14:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

The subject of this article is the aircraft industry of the Russian Federation. History up to 1991 should, in my opinion, go to separate articles like Aircraft industry of the Soviet Union or Aircraft industry of Imperial Russia. Offliner (talk) 15:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Had a go at adding a short section with regards how the industry was in the Soviet era. For eaders not familiar with how production units functioned in Communist countries and assume that they function in the same way as Western commercial businesses, the material in the following section lacks context. It would be nice to see a

Main article: Aircraft industry of the Soviet Union

at the top of the section.--KTo288 (talk) 22:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Great work, thanks. Yes, it would be nice to have a separate articles about the Soviet aircraft industry. Do you have more material about the Soviet period? Nanobear (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Suggested DYK hook

Did you know that Aircraft industry of Russia is one of the backbones of the country's economy, employing around 355,300 people?

Source for "backbone" is [5], source for "355,300 people" is [6] (p.16)

What do you think? Offliner (talk) 19:33, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Seems quite good. But I'm no expert on DYK, so better ask someone else. Just be careful, I think some guys on Wikipedia that we both know would prefer the wording Did you know that Aircraft industry of Russia still exists? ;) Greyhood (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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