Talk:50–40–90 club

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 87.110.130.190 in topic Durant's 2022–23 season

Calculating

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The Calculating section mentions that the shooting statistics are rounded to second decimal. However, I don't think it's correct. If we follow the second decimal rules, the list will includes players who were not actually shooting at 50-40-90. Here are several reasons that support my point.

  • I could not find any reference that mentions the second decimal rules.
  • If the statistics are rounded to second decimal, the list will includes both Jeff Hornacek and José Calderón. I could not find any single news or article that mentions Hornacek is a member of the 50-40-90 club. Although Calderon is often mentioned as a member of the club, it is because of his 2007-08 season, when he was 16 free throws short from the league minimum. His 2008-09 season (.497-.406-.981) is never mentioned anywhere as his 50-40-90 season.
  • This news item on September 2010 mentions that Bird has only achieved 50-40-90 twice, which excludes his 1985-86 season (.496-.423-.896). The news also mentions that Nash achieved 50-40-90 four times in the last five seasons, which excludes his 2006-07 season (.532-.455-.899).
  • This news item on February 2008 mentions that the 50-40-90 has only been achieved six times (Bird in 1986-87, Bird in 1987-88, Price in 1988-89, Miller in 1993-94, Nash in 2005-06, Nowitzki in 2006-07), which excludes Nash' 2006-07 season (.532-.455-.899) and Hornacek's 1990-91 season (.518-.418-.897).
  • This news item on January 2007 only mentions 5 players in the club, which excludes Hornacek's 1990-91 season (.518-.418-.897)
  • This news item on September 2010 only mentions Bird, Nash and Nowitzki as members of the club. He probably forgot about Price and Miller, but there are no mentions of Calderon's recent 2008-09 season (.497-.406-.981).

If there are no objections, I will remove those under 50-40-90 seasons and rearrange the Calculating section to reflect a more accurate information. — Martin tamb (talk) 15:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

There is one news item that contradict my points above. It mentions that Nash has achieved 50-40-90 five times, which includes his 2006-07 season (.532-.455-.899) and Bird has achieved 50-40-90 three times, which includes his 1985-86 season (.496-.423-.896). — Martin tamb (talk) 07:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Please feel free to improve the article. You made some good points.—Chris!c/t 18:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've made the changes and included those who barely missed the 50-40-90 mark in a separate table. — Martin tamb (talk) 07:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Exactly how moronic can this be made? 50-40-90 equals .500-.400-.900 and that is all what is needed to know. So .499-.399-.899 is not enough even though it rounds up to .50-.40-.90. Or, if actually using percent figures, why not put those above examples like this: Bird 49.6-42.3-89.6, Nash 53.2-45.5-89.9 and Hornacek 51.8-41.8-89.7. It's not actually so hard at all... 82.141.67.208 (talk) 01:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

The rarer 45-45-90 club

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Steph Curry just joined the rarer 45-45-90 club.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:41, 25 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Steph Curry is also on pace to join the even more rare 50-50-90 club this season. http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3975/stephen-curry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandlerwentz (talkcontribs) 23:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

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3O: highlighting the percentages

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I highlighted the respective percentages in the chart because I think it's very much needed, it definitely helped me to see the most important information of the article at first glance. Else the percentages go a bit lost in the chart due to there being so many numbers. Sabbatino however says that it's not needed. 3O please. --SdHb (talk) 12:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hippo43's Removals

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Hi Hippo43. I'm a bit confused by some of your edits here. For example, what is the issue with 966090666? The Score is a well known sports publication, and the information is a third party confirmation of the NBA's policy.

Like, I get removing 966094770 (although removing it for not being in the source there is a bit weird. It's a link to the WNBA's statistical minimums to support the article mentioning the WNBA's statistical minimums. The issue there if anything would be that it is a first party source), but what's the issue with NBA's statistical minimums? 198.52.130.137 (talk) 04:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, this guy contributed nothing to this article and literally deleted over half of its length for pedantic reasons. Pretty lame.
WesSantee (talk) 18:50, 19 April 2021 (UTC)WesSanteeReply
The user that performed the section blanking was blocked by Wikipedia for three months in February. With the block expiration coming up, hopefully we will hear some discussion next month. 198.52.130.137 (talk) 05:41, 6 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2021

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Add Kyrie Irving and Tony Snell as they have at least a 50 FG%, 40 3p%, 90 FT% Shaigilgeous2 (talk) 01:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. It will need to confirm that Snell met all the minimum requirements, not just the percentages. Irving is already on the page.—Bagumba (talk) 01:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
guy, to qualify, the player had to have made 300 field goals and 55 3pt, Snell made only 82 so he doesn't qualify — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.35.204.74 (talk) 02:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Minimums

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I'm all for making the page verifiable, but it seems that due to the mass removals (above), mention that there are minimum made shot thresholds has not been included since as recent as this version. Without minimums, the list would be inaccurately a lot larger.—Bagumba (talk) 02:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I've added mention of the minimums.[1]Bagumba (talk) 04:39, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

50-40-90 misses

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I would argue that adding a list of near misses is not OR, since all those seasons are listed on the individual BBref pages. Just because baseball does not have misses is not an argument that the basketball version should not have one. I find it strange that the removal of large sections of this article by a user that was suspended afterwards is now taken as gospel.

Furthermore, I found a news article stating Chris Paul barely missed it in 2021, so there is no reason not to include that season even by the most stringent standards. Chaosquo (talk) 18:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

To me it's similar to NBA FLs generally not exhaustively listing every runner-up merely because it's true. Wikipedia is WP:NOTEVERYTHING, and the WP:ONUS is on every editor to establish consensus on what facts to include. We also don't want a WP:COATRACK of "near misses", especially if the selection criteria appear to be an WP:OR stats database query by a WP editor. I'm not sure the "suspended" user you are referring to, but we anyways evaluate the merits of arguments, not blindly pre-judging their source. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 22:52, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Durant's 2022–23 season

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I'm not quite sure why my addition of Durant's recent season was reverted by Bruxton. What kind of extra reference is needed besides the already linked basketball reference page with stats? The article quite literally states the criteria for the season to qualify as 50–40–90, and it's pretty easy to see that KD's statline does indeed pass the requirements. Thanks. 87.110.130.190 (talk) 02:20, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the message. I reverted myself because you are right. Bruxton (talk) 02:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the quick reply! Cheers. 87.110.130.190 (talk) 02:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply