Talk:2024 Wayanad landslides

Comprehension about number of fatalities

Multiple sources have been reporting multiple data for number of death in the incident. Ideally, it should be confirmed deaths + body parts found + missing people. As after17 days, chance of finding someone alive is next to null. But for now, we are referring to central government's data from daily report. that is Confirmed deaths + body parts found. We understand the body part could be of same person. it would reduce the number up to certain extent, but again, if we also consider adding the missing person and we will reach more or less same number.

The issue with generalization of data, is which one to choose? we have lower ("over 400") and upper ("over 450") limits both. Chin pin choo (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Schwinnspeed & @Pachu Kannan : Any thought? Chin pin choo (talk) 17:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The central government's report says Human Live Loss --> 231 dead and recovered 212 body parts, Even they believe 212 body parts to be separate one until proved otherwise. Chin pin choo (talk) 18:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I understand a little more now that you are bringing the missing person rationale in - you are right that when its all accounted for, including missing persons, it is likely to net about the same even if you account for multiple body parts for one person. Your rationale and calculation makes sense. But my point is on Wikipedia this is all considered WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Until we get the DNA reports, I feel we should use what is currently cited in RS, I'm even comfortable with the upper limit (450+), but I am not seeing an RS that states that (I may be missing something) If we want to use the central govt report, we should spell out 231 dead and 212 recovered body parts, as per the source. I just think we are making a big leap and should keep it general right now until we know more Schwinnspeed (talk) 19:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Text changed to either like over 420 or 420+ as per https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/wayanad-landslides-fire-force-ndrf-volunteers-continue-search-operations-124080900226_1.html Post-mortems have been conducted on 420 bodies, 178 bodies have been handed over to relatives, and 233 burials have taken place Chin pin choo (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I hope, you would consider Business Standard reliable enough. Chin pin choo (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

It is a better decision to avoid violation of WP:NOR. Pachu Kannan (talk) 00:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I tend to suspect that the government of Kerala would ever declare exact number of deaths in the landslides. They may have inform the individual families about the DNA test results but aren't going to publicly announce the number to avoid social backlash.

Same thing was done during 2018 Kerala floods. 119.252.201.99 (talk) 21:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

The reference to 420 from Business Standard seems ok for now until we know more. If the CG doesn't publish the final deathcount then we can always put a statement saying that later. But its WP:OR to conclude that on our own right now. I think @Chin pin choo found a good solve for now. Schwinnspeed (talk) 20:45, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Chin pin choo (talk · contribs) 10:50, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: TamilRoman (talk · contribs) 10:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I'll be reviewing this for good article status.

• The introduction of article should a little more than a paragraph.

• Reply:  Done more information has been added now in the introduction of the article. Chin pin choo (talk) 11:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Aftermath section should be divided further into loss if human-life, Property and Animals.

• Reply:  Done Aftermath section has been divided into subsections. Chin pin choo (talk) 11:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• UTC time should also be used in the infobox for international readers.

• Reply:  Done UTC time, won't be possible as time and timezone are two separate fields in the infobox. However, we have included it in the article. Chin pin choo (talk) 11:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

More or less the article is in good shape. Promoting it to GA. Congratulations!! TamilRoman (talk) 12:31, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

 Note: both the reviewer and nominator have been blocked for sockpuppetry. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 07:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

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[[File:|140px|The drone visual of the landslide origin near Punjirimattom ]]

The drone visual of the landslide origin near Punjirimattom

• ... that more than 420 people were killed in 2024 Wayanad landslides in India, caused by 572 mm (22.5 in) downpour within just 48 hours, which was above monthly average 527 mm (20.7 in) in the area?

• Source: https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/wayanad-landslides-fire-force-ndrf-volunteers-continue-search-operations-124080900226_1.html
• Source: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/wayanad-landslide-how-two-villages-vanished-overnight/article68506601.ece

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Improved to Good Article status by Chin pin choo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Chin pin choo (talk) 12:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC).

• Unfortunately this article is ineligible for DYK, as it appeared on the Main Page as a bolded link in WP:ITN on 31 July 2024. CMD (talk) 07:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

2024 Wayanad landslides

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Result: The classic self-review. CMD (talk) 15:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

As outlined at WT:GAN#Review needs looking at, there are significant issues with this article. The GA review lasted less than two hours. It did not check the sources as required by WP:GAN/I#R3, which might have picked up numerous issues of close paraphrasing/plagiarism. The article itself is riddled with grammar and spelling errors and poor prose; it also contains unnecessary details in many sections. It thus fails several of the GA criteria.

Pinging those who commented at WT:GAN: Thebiguglyalien, Chipmunkdavis, Chaotic Enby ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Delist. Fails criteria 1a (many, many grammar errors), 1b (lead is way too short, also external links in body), 5 (very recent event, and the rescue operation is still current), and 6b (two galleries of dubious relevance). The long tables of individual donors also likely fail 1b (list incorporation) and 3b (unnecessary details). I can see a lot of other issues with the article (flag icons in prose, really?), but I am not sure whether those are actually GA requirements. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Article has been delisted to work on quality of the content. Chin pin choo (talk) 12:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I've blocked the GAN nominator and reviewer, both as sockpuppets of Makks2010 based on behavioral evidence. DanCherek (talk) 15:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

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Wetlands Discussion Focus

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Sad demise of innocent Wayanad people

The God's own country City has lost the most people it's very disappointing and I heard in you and I can't hold my Tears I burst out crying #SAVEWAY 115.99.180.96 (talk) 14:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)