Talk:2023 Pasadena–Deer Park tornado

Injuries from the tornado?

Although the NCEI/NWS does state that there were no injuries from the tornado, the Houston Chronicle states that three people were hospitalized. Should this be mentioned, even though the NCEI/NWS reference states that no injuries occurred? Tails Wx 00:48, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Information added. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Tails Wx 01:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Outbreak article

Should there be an article on the outbreak? There were 16 tornadoes and 3 injuries. Also had the first tornado emergency issued by NWS Houston. Emersyniscool (talk) 13:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

I created a draft, 2023 2600:1014:B1EF:EE52:0:1E:6B5C:C801 (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Merge back

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This tornado, and outbreak, caused zero fatalities and less then $10 million. This article has a lot of WP:FANCRUFT in it. I propose we merge it back to Tornadoes of 2023 and condense. Being well written does NOT inoculate the article from merging - look at Tropical Depression Ten (2005). 107.77.223.138 (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Strong Oppose — Bruh, a legit WP:GAN article with a size of 19,000 bytes. Tornadoes of 2023#January 24–25, the outbreak section which included this tornado as well as 14 others is roughly 2,400 characters (with only 816 of those being about this tornado). Article clearly passes WP:GNG, is sourced by 19 sources, including some months later like this article from ABC 13, which is titled, Lessons learned from the January 24 tornado, published 6-months after the tornado. Also to note that mentioning Tropical Depression 10 of 2005 is considered invalid under WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Article is for sure a whole lot better in terms of size than the Tornadoes of 2023 section and passes WP:LASTING, with true, full articles about it months into the future. The tornado also kick-started a political move in Deer Park, which was mentioned in the article, meaning it for sure passes WP:LASTING. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 02:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

All of that stuff can be condensed. See WP:FANCRUFT.107.77.223.138 (talk) 20:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose — This tornado is notable. How is 6.6 million dollars in damage not notable? Also, as The Weather Event Writer said, it passes as a wikipedia article. 2600:1014:B1A5:9428:0:7:75D5:6D01 (talk) 16:27, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Many storms that caused billions don’t have articles.107.77.223.138 (talk) 20:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Note: the OP is a block evading sock of Andrew5. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Other tornadoes

I was thinking we should add a section such as other tornadoes or confirmed tornadoes, such as in 2007 Elie tornado or Jiangsu tornado. I wanted to get others opinions before I added this. Creeperboy22011 (talk) 13:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I am more against this idea. The overall outbreak and other tornadoes are covered on the Tornadoes of 2023 article in detail. The difference with those is they are outside the U.S., meaning information on other tornadoes is scarce. That is not the case with U.S. tornadoes. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 13:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:2023 Pasadena–Deer Park tornado/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 00:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I will get to this review within one week. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

1. Well-written

• ...Golden Acres neighborhood were severely damaged and a church was largely destroyed add a comma after the word "damaged"

 Done The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• ...as trees were downed and many homes sustained damage to their roofs and garages. add a comma after the word "downed"

 Done The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• CenterPoint Energy reported over 20,000 homes were without power and the Red Cross opened a shelter in Pasadena add a comma after the word "power"

 Done The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

2. Verifiable
Earwig's Copyvio check is fine, the top URL is the website a properly-attributed quote was taken from. Sources are reliable.

• Ref. 3 is a dead link

The link worked for me? It should be just an image (by the National Weather Service) and the damage survey text. Either way, the archived link shows the same as the current (live?) link. I can switch it the ref "live" to "dead" status if it doesn't seem to work for everyone. Let me know about this one. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Don't know why earlier it was saying "this page can't be found," but now I can see the image. -Riley1012 (talk) 22:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• For ref. 9, is there a way to link to the specific damage reports instead of just seeing the entire database? I'm trying to play around with it and don't think it's possible, but let me know.

Sadly there isn't a way to do that. All tornado articles that reference it just reference the whole database since it is an interactive and constantly updating map/database with thousands of tornadoes. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Understood. -Riley1012 (talk) 22:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• Spot check:

• No issues: 4, 6 (Tweet is from a real meteorologist) and 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 17, 19 and 20

3. Broad

• In August 2023, William Stokes, a deaf 17-year-old, presented before Deer Park City Council with a proposal to implement strobe lights on ten of the cities' emergency warning towers. Based on reading the sources, I would add a sentence noting that this proposal was successful and the strobe lights were added.

 Done The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

4. Neutral
The article is neutral in its coverage of events.

5. Stable
This article is stable day-to-day.

6. Illustrated
The images in the article are in the public domain and have relevant captions.

WeatherWriter just a couple of tweaks needed, then this should be good to go! -Riley1012 (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@Riley1012: Changes made and comments about the two references. Let me know if there is anything else that needs changed! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@WeatherWriter: Everything looks good now. I will promote to GA status. -Riley1012 (talk) 22:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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