Talk:2019 PDC World Darts Championship
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Qualifiers section
editWhy is there a list of "provisional" qualifiers? Surely the list should only include actually qualified players? The way the rankings are now are irrelevant - it is only the rankings at the cutoff point that matter. Dougal18 (talk) 09:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- As it stand, this would be the qualifiers. Many people do find that interesting and because it is based on facts (supported by references) it is allowed on here. PreciesJJ —Preceding undated comment added 11:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- None of those are valid reasons for keeping the info. Someone will have to update the list every time any of the rankings change and figure out how they affect each other. Already this is causing problems. All this for something that has no bearing on anything. Dougal18 (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- Am not a fan of including provisional qualification full stop; it falls far too close to WP:CRYSTAL for my blood. I certainly don't like having the provisional tables for the international ooms; I fear that by doing this we will create a confusing mix of confirmed and speculated entrants in the same table; If you believe the EADC tour is done (which I don't) that's already started. OZOO (t) (c) 14:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- PS. Why are Dennis Nilsson (Challenge Tour) and Raymond Smith (DPA) listed in qualifiers? Those places are currently held by Michael Barnard and Corey Cadby. Do we have a source that those places go down the list? OZOO (t) (c) 14:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think that is confirmed yet. At least in July, when the first players actually qualify the internatinals should be cleaned. -Koppapa (talk) 04:44, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
The current provisional tables do not match with those cited. What is the source for the current table? OZOO (t) (c) 17:41, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
- "21:03, 17 June 2018 PreciesJJ (Burton his list has added some money players don't actually have to get added to their rankings. Therefore, we use the rankings per 17 June 2018.)"
- I'm not sure what any of that means. The PDPA have an Order of Merit updated to 17 June 2018. That would be a more reliable source. PreciesJJ is now engaging in WP:OR. The quicker we can reach consensus on whether to include provisional qualifiers or not the better. Dougal18 (talk) 06:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
I am updating the page after every event, don't see the problem why we shouldnt put the provisional qualifiers on here. PreciesJJ (talk) 14:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Everything I post on the page cab be checked by yourself. You will notice I am right.
PreciesJJ (talk) 18:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
International qualifers
editHi all,
So in about 7 hours or so we're going to have an actual qualifier in the international section. Bearing this in mind, should we split the list into "confirmed" and "provisional" qualifiers, with the provisional qualifiers in current order and the confirmed in alphabetical? I've done an example of what I'm thinking of in my sandbox. I think that would be neater than mixing players who have actually qualified with provisional; and would mean we could clearly indicate if, for example, a player from the Asian Tour had a clear lead before the Tour finished. OZOO (t) (c) 16:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Removing all provisional qualifiers from the international player would make it clearer. -Koppapa (talk) 17:14, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. As has already been said above, this is exactly what WP:CRYSTAL and WP:OR are about. If anywhere, provisional qualifier projections might belong on separate articles if those actually existed (i.e. articles on the 2018 DPA, EADC, etc. tours), where such information would be produced in the normal course of tracking the tours through the season. Absent that, it has no place on Wikipedia. Zeyes (talk) 22:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Was surprised to see the provisional international qualifiers all removed, seeing as the entire qualifiers section is based on provisional information. I understand the argument about WP:Crystal, but if that’s the case then all of the Order of Merit and Pro Tour qualifiers should be removed as well, seeing as both sections are subject to change before the cut off date. It’s confusing to have one column for confirmed players and two non-concrete columns full of provisional players in a provisional order. If they are to remain included, the international provisionals should be included as well for the sake of consistency between the three sections. In terms of neatness, I would change it to look like this, so there is clear seperation between the confirmed, provisional and unknown players. - ESJ002 (Talk) (Contributions) 11:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. As has already been said above, this is exactly what WP:CRYSTAL and WP:OR are about. If anywhere, provisional qualifier projections might belong on separate articles if those actually existed (i.e. articles on the 2018 DPA, EADC, etc. tours), where such information would be produced in the normal course of tracking the tours through the season. Absent that, it has no place on Wikipedia. Zeyes (talk) 22:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I think the example of ESJ002 looks great, and it is clear for everyone what is provisional and what is confirmed PreciesJJ (talk) 20:32, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Tournament Statistics
editAdd a Tournament Statistics section as for other editions of the World Championship TrimeriotSkaya (talk) 14:31, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Tournament format
editHow would I learn how the matches were played? Looks like there were some "sets" played. How many in each round? Looks like a set is a string of games. How many, and which game? 301? 501? Cricket? Some medley? It seems odd to have a large article describing a tournament without a description of, you know, the tournament. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- To be fair your right 1) Play 501 2) Each set is first to 3 games 3) Each player takes it in turns to throw first from one game to the next, unless it is the first game of the set and they threw first in the last set 4) First and second round are first to 3 sets, third and first to 4, Qtrs first to 5, Semis first to 6, Final first to 7 5) Except in the first round, a deciding set must be won by 2 clear games, unless it gets to 5-5, when they play sudden death. Feel free to draft a write up! Jopal22 (talk) 01:56, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm the wrong person to do the writing, as I have no familiarity with the sport (which is why I'm reading this article), and because I have no reference that explains the format. Material added to the article should be referenced. -- Mikeblas (talk) 18:01, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Prize money
editThe prize money totals currently don't add up. If you add up all the individual rounds' totals you get to £2 400 000, yet the tournament total is claimed to be £2 500 000. That's a discrepancy of £100 000. What's causing this?Tvx1 18:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Check your math again. DLManiac (talk) 08:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)