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Request for edits on Current Events

A few changes that should be made are:

• Change the link in banner at the top to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals instead of Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Ending the system of portals (the discussion got lengthy).
• Re-add the "Purge" button near the date (it's missing for some reason).

Thanks! SemiHypercube (talk) 11:30, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

 Partly done: please see #What's the point of the time purge? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@MSGJ: The Purge button allows the page to be updated. The page can still be purged, but it involves adding "?action=purge" to the URL and is a bit slow, so the Purge button should be re-added to speed that up. SemiHypercube (talk) 11:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Please discuss at #What's the point of the time purge? and ping the other participants — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The purge button was removed since the portal now automatically updates when a subpage is edited, so there's no need for it.  Nixinova   T   C   00:18, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 29 April 2018

Change "A proposal has been made to eliminate this portal, and all other portals." to "A proposal has been made to delete all portals, including this one." per 1500+ other portals. wumbolo ^^^ 15:31, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 17:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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Relevant RFC

As currently worded, the proposal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Ending the system of portals includes the deletion of the current events portal. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

• I have made a suggestion on the future of this portal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#A new home for some useful portals. -- BobTheIP editing as 2.28.13.227 (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
• Meanwhile, can anything be done about the big red in-your-face box on this high-visibility page? Disruptive and intrusive are words that come to mind. Moscow Mule (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Absolutely not. It's the portal equivalent of sticking an AfD notice. up. -- BobTheIP editing as 2.28.13.227 (talk) 15:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Why can't it just go on this page instead of cluttering the main one?  Nixinova   T   C   00:16, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
      • The same reason AfD notices aren't buried on article talk pages.... -- BobTheIP editing as 92.29.27.179 (talk) 12:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Remove the deletion notice

This portal is obviously not going to be deleted so can someone please remove that eyesore?  Nixinova  T  C  04:13, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. The portal is nominated for deletion. The notice can be removed when the RfC closes. -- BobTheIP editing as 89.240.139.36 (talk) 08:00, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

• The portal itself is not gonna be deleted, it's just gonna be moved to a different namespace, so there's no need for the template.  Nixinova  T  C  20:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

• That isn't at all what the RfC says, and indeed this very issue has been raised and responded to (multiple times) at the RfA. -- BobTheIP editing as 92.29.27.179 (talk) 12:17, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Comma or no comma

More trivial issues – do we include the comma (Reuters), (Israel National News), (CNN) or not (Haaretz) (The Washington Post) (The Times of Israel)?  Nixinova   T   C   19:59, 27 April 2018 (UTC) – Pinging 05:32, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I think the comma looks better. -- BobTheIP editing as 92.29.27.179 (talk) 13:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

BBC or BBC News?

Which one is correct: "BBC" or "BBC News"? Because people are using both and I want to know which one is the right one to use.  Nixinova  T  C  03:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC) — Pinging 06:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't think there's a right answer; or, perhaps, neither is a wrong answer. I'd !vote for BBC since they separate themselves into BBC News and BBC Sport on the website; both might be used here and it's basically the same source so use the same form. I've probably used both without even thinking about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.27.179 (talk) 13:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Remove the RFC notice

The portal RfC has concluded, please remove the notice from the Current Events Portal. jcc (tea and biscuits) 12:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:09, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Headlines with multiple links to the same news outlets

For example, you may have Two new super-jupiters are discovered. (Minor Planet Center) (Minor Planet Center). What should be done here? Should they have a ₁ & ₂ after them or what?  Nixinova  T  C  04:10, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

As far as I know, I think that adding a ₂ and so on is the standard. Though I might be wrong.--EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 11:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Articles in other languages

Is it fine to have the news articles in a language other than english?  Nixinova  T  C  06:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)  Nixinova  T  C  06:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

• The edit instructions say "News stories must be in the English language". However, I haven't seen this strictly enforced, and the instructions might be outdated as they were mostly written in 2007. I feel that English-language sources are preferred, but other languages can be used if they're the only ones covering a certain news item. ^Falling_Gravity 23:36, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I think I'll go ahead and soften the language there. ^Falling_Gravity 05:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

MOS

I have made a stub manual of style for this page: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Current events.  Nixinova  T  C  20:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Remove references sections from monthly subpages?

In Special:Diff/844027766, Nixinova removed the references section from the page Portal:Current events/May 2018. I have restored that section for now. The user needs to explain why the references section should be removed. There are also many other months where none of the transcluded daily subpages use <ref></ref> tags, but instead external links beginning and ending with parentheses, and we need to discuss whether we should remove the references sections from those monthly subpages. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

• Pages shouldn't be using ref tags in current events. We just use plain links here. I removed them because they are not used at all.  Nixinova  T  C  00:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
• No-one has replied so I'm going to assume they aren't needed.  Nixinova  T  C  07:53, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Extra space?

There seems to be an extra space at the top. See [1] vs [2] (taken 9 hours apart). What caused this?  Nixinova  T  C  06:05, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't see a space in the live page so I guess it's resolved. It was probably caused by blanking Portal:Current events/2018 June 19 at the time.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 July newsletter

The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

• Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
• Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
• SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington

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Edit Request

hey i don't wanna bother you people but in July 2, 2018, under Arts and Culture there is a section labeled crossing the ditch and it says " Scott Donaldson becomes first solo kayaker" and it should say "becomes the first solo kayaker" MadameButterflyKnife (talk) 23:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit request 18/07/18

Add |nocurrenteventslink=1 to the ITN header as it just links to itself.  Nixinova  T  C  05:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

On the selection of news items reported here

I frequent this page, and have noticed that at least 90% (conservative estimate) of the news items are "negative," and that often a day will have NO "positive" news items listed or perhaps one sports result which could qualify as such. Why and how is this exceptionally biased selection process occurring? How can we improve it?

I am thinking more reporting could be done of charitable donations, scientific publications, etc. If it is "newsworthy" that some terror attack kills 2 people (out of 8 billion) in some local province somewhere, isn't it also newsworthy that an art gallery opens a new exhibition in a local area.

The general policies apply on this page: see Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines. Especially the general notability guideline. If a local art gallery exhibition would exceptionally get "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", then I guess it's OK to include here. Also please don't forget to sign your contributions on talk pages. Cheers. Wakari07 (talk) 15:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Venezuelan opposition politicians

They were stripped of parliamentary immunity, not diplomatic immunity (which they presumably didn't have in the first place). Haltik (talk) 06:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thanks User:Naddy. Wakari07 (talk) 21:47, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

White space between boxes is back

The white space between 'current events' boxes is back. See: Portal talk:Current events/Archive 10#White space between boxes, for the last time this happened. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@IJBall: I fixed it. August 13 had a blank line on top and 12 and 11 have a {{pp-sock}} on top. They're inside a <noinclude>, but they appear to leave a blank line after inclusion. Those seem to create a stray <p><br /></p> above the section. In the future, there should be no newlines at all before {{Current events template. Isa (talk) 03:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 September newsletter

The fourth round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The eight users who made it to the final round had to score a minimum of 422 points to qualify, with the top score in the round being 4869 points. The leaders in round 4 were:

• Courcelles scored a magnificent 4869 points, with 92 good articles on Olympics-related themes. Courcelles' bonus points alone exceeded the total score of any of the other contestants!
• Kees08 was second with 1155 points, including a high-scoring featured article for Neil Armstrong, two good topics and some Olympics-related good articles.
• Cas Liber, with 1066 points, was in third place this round, with two featured articles and a good article, all on natural history topics.
• Other contestants who qualified for the final round were Nova Crystallis, Iazyges, SounderBruce, Kosack and Ceranthor.

During round four, 6 featured articles and 164 good articles were promoted by WikiCup contestants, 13 articles were included in good topics and 143 good article reviews were performed. There were also 10 "in the news" contributions on the main page and 53 "did you knows". Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best editor win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 September 2018

41.223.109.49 (talk) 15:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: You haven't asked for anything and although this page is protected, the individual days are not. Just click on "edit" next to the date. Isa (talk) 18:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Under Sep 7 there is the vandalism "chicken is good for me" but I don't know where or how to get rid of it,so could someone please?Persistent Corvid (talk) 01:41, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. Isa (talk) 01:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 15 October 2018

Paul Allen's death Cpm0813 (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details.

@Cpm0813: The individual days are not protected, you can edit them yourself by clicking "edit" next to the date headers. Isa (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Weird formatting bug

A recent change to the picture at Template:In the news caused the caption to go below the outline of the template, when displayed at full width. This caused the sidebar to move left out of the way. I have added a {{clear}} template to the bottom of Portal:Current events/Headlines, which seems to have fixed the issue, unless a different solution can be found. --Danski454 (talk) 09:46, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 November 2018

Thithiesha (talk) 12:10, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

•  Not doneBlank request. Flooded with them hundreds 13:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Country that launched asteroid spacecraft

OSIRIS-REx is the third planetary science mission in (US) NASA's New Frontiers program. Recommend we identify the launching and monitoring country. Thanks. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 05:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

@RaqiwasSushi: You're probably looking for WP:ERRORS. Isa (talk) 03:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!

Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible NPOV problem

Jan 1,2019's Law and Crime section states that "Five people are injured after a man intentionally drives a car into multiple crowds of people in the cities of Bottrop and Essen, Germany. Police say the incident appears to be a xenophobic far-right attack." What exactly does "far-right" mean? If the section is stating that right-wing politics is xenophobic, than it would not have a NPOV. - ZLEA _Talk\^Contribs 16:07, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

I've added a comma. Both terms are in the reference. Isa (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

But is far-right NPOV? - ZLEA _Talk\^Contribs 16:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure, it's mentioned in several reliable sources. Isa (talk) 16:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

MfD discussion of old dates

I have opened an MfD discussion for the older subpages at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Current events/November 1994. Contributions to the discussion welcomed. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 21 January 2019

In today's category, some random kid wrote in his personal details under disasters and accidents. This must be deleted to ensure the Portal remains topical and not irrelevant. 190.141.68.142 (talk) 16:27, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Reverted and user blocked, thanks! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm genuinely interested, why are disasters and accidents topical and relevant to the rest of the world? Many days the news of the day is flooded with these types of items.

And did you intend "random" with the jargon meaning, as a child would, or did you rather intend the sense that some kid chose a random article to write his own personal blog into? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4200:7000:1:0:0:0:10 (talk) 07:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Error regarding Bruce McArthur

I was surprised to find that the article I was trying to get on ITN had already appeared on Portal:Current events three times. I haven't paid much attention to the portal namespace and am ignorant of how it functions, or the particular criteria for this specific portal. However, I noted an error on Portal:Current events/2018 February 8 which states in Law and crime, Crime in Toronto:

The remains of six people found on a property in East York are linked to alleged serial killer Bruce McArthur. This brings the total body count to eleven. (Global News)

The conclusion which the editor made in the second sentence is incorrect, apparently calculating 5+6=11 based on false assumptions. I cannot access the video in the source, but the text says that the remains of six people were found on the property, and later in the same story that this property was "the only place where remains have been discovered." So the literal "body count" is six. Here are some other sources from that day: National Post, Kiro7 which confirm this, as do numerous sources on the following days.

McArthur had earlier (Jan 29) been charged with five murders for which the bodies had not been found and/or identified, and on Feb 8 they had six bodies. That provided a range of between 6 and 11 alleged killings, depending on the overlap between the two groups. Actually, one of the six bodies was identified Feb 8 and corresponded to one of the charges laid (Kinsman), so the range at that time was really 6 to 10.

I don't know if this is something that you correct or if you retain mistakes for archival purposes. I would suggest striking the second sentence. The National Post source makes the numbers a little more clear. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:12, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: Current events is one of those dark corners of Wikipedia. It's patrolled by very few regulars and most items aren't checked at all. Feel free to correct errors in previous entries. Isa (talk) 17:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@Isanae: Thanks for the quick reply. I'll make the correction and will read up on your MOS and procedures in case I come across something newsworthy. – Reidgreg (talk) 18:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Creation of current event pages

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Cyberbot is in charge of automatically creating the per-day current event pages, but it's been disabled since 20 January 2019. Please keep an eye on the portal page for a redlink at midnight UTC and create it manually with this content (the month and day should be correct at the time when the redlink appears):

{{Current events|year=2024|month=11|day=19|content=

<!-- All news items below this line -->

<!-- All news items above this line -->}}

Once the page has been created, purge the current events page if the redlink is still showing. Isa (talk) 00:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Coherency check?

I realize the Current Events portal is not something that gets copyedited as thoroughly as articles, but ... "Saudi Arabia signs $20 billion dollars in deals with Pakistan. (BBC News)"

Reads as "... twenty dollars billion dollars ..." because there is both the dollar symbol and the spelled-out word. Plus what does "signs dollars in deals with with Pakistan" even mean? IAmNitpicking (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 March 2019

With regard to the Tel Aviv airstrike story, the NYT article says that the Israeli military claims that one of the two rockets were intercepted by the Iron Dome, whereas the Wikipedia version claims neither of the two rockets were intercepted 165.124.144.20 (talk) 22:41, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

You can click the "edit" link next to each day and do the changes yourself. The portal page itself is protected, but it merely includes the individual days. Isa (talk) 22:54, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Question about 2020 campaign

It's really necessary to list every every person that announces they are running for the 2020 elections? They are going to be a lot and it's not really important at least until 2020. Thanks. Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

"Topics in the News" header not vetted for relevance

It seems to me that the header does not equally represent events based on magnitude of importance. For example, the Presidential change in Khazakstan has been up for 3 days, while a bus crash in Ghana that killed >50 people happened yesterday is not in the header. Similarly, the Yacheng chemical plant explosion from 2 days ago was not put in the header, even though it killed 47 and injured 640. Purely in terms of numbers, these are significant losses of life with great impact. Don't they deserve time at the top? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.122.64.159 (talk) 17:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

This talk page is for the current events portal, not ITN. See WP:ITN/C to nominate articles. Isa (talk) 20:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Venezuela blackout continues

The 2019 Venezuelan blackout continues, the second blackout went into its third day. Reuters. This should appear somewhere. --MaoGo (talk) 15:36, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@MaoGo: Feel free to add it to today's current events template. For the main page, see WP:ITN/C. Isa (talk) 17:41, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Extinction Rebellion?

Any reason those haven't shown given the scale of the protests? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB60:1011:2006:FD46:ABD8:38F0:C70D (talk) 20:50, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

If you're talking about the current events portal, feel free to add something on the appropriate day. For "In the news", the box on the main page, the last discussion was on 19 April and the consensus was against posting. You could nominate the article again at WP:ITN/C, but I doubt it would find a different consensus. Cheers. Isa (talk) 02:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 May newsletter

The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

• Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
• Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
• Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
• Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

Other notable performances were put in by Barkeep49 with six GAs, Ceranthor, Lee Vilenski, and Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.

So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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Number casualties Aeroflot Flight 1492

There was a 5-person crew in addition to 78 passengers, so the total on board on was 83. The May 5 entry is: "A five-person crew and 78 passengers were on board." RaqiwasSushi (talk) 17:25, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@RaqiwasSushi: I'm not sure what the problem is, the quoted part is identical to your assertion, and both seem correct to me. Isa (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@Isanae: Thanks for quick response. The "Topics in the News" entry is "... killing 41 of the 78 people on board." which doesn't include the 5-person crew. 41 of 78 passengers would be accurate but incomplete. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 18:37, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@RaqiwasSushi: Well, now that I looked at it, it's the May 5 entry that's incorrect: the article and all the sources say there were 73 passengers + 5 crews. I've fixed the entry. For future reference, errors in the "In the news" box should be reported at WP:ERRORS, not here. Isa (talk) 18:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@Isanae: Thanks. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 21:37, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Somebody broke the May 15th Page

Some idiot broke the link to get to the page for events on May 15, 2019. Whoever just fixed it, thanks. CaptainAhab1841 (talk) 18:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done (Nothing to do in the edit request). — xaosflux ^Talk 18:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 17 May 2019

Please add the full-protected lock topicon to the page. Thanks King of Redirects (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC) King of Redirects (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Waiting until the day the SI units are redefined and only then discussing whether to put them on the main page seems like a bad plan.

This regards this revert

Is it really true that you don't allow upcoming entries to be discussed until there is zero time left to make a decision?

The redefinition of the base units for the metric system happens on 20 May 2019. I am hoping to get this article mentioned on the main page on that day.

Alas, I also have a hot project and if I don't make my deadline because I spent too much time navigating the politics of getting things mentioned on the main page the toy I am working on will miss Christmas. :(

Related: Wikipedia:Help desk#2019 redefinition of SI base units --Guy Macon (talk) 13:24, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: You'll find this talk page to be lightly patrolled, so your best bet is to keep this on the help desk. The guidelines for the current events portal are basically non-existent, except that they should be sourced and are never signed. You can look at the boxes for any other day for examples. As for your changes, announcements of events are often removed for being somewhat trivial, but not always. In this case, I would wait until the 20th. Finally, as you were told on the help desk, ITN is different from the current event portal. You can nominate articles on WP:ITN/C. Cheers! Isa (talk) 13:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 May 2019

Please replace

<span id="coordinates" class="noprint">[[Portal:Current events/Edit instructions|Edit instructions]]</span>

with

<span id="coordinates" class="noprint sysop-show">[[Portal:Current events/Edit instructions|Edit instructions]]</span>

to hide the link from non-sysops, who can't edit the page. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: The instructions are not for administrators, they're for regular users who want to add events to the individual days. Isa (talk) 07:12, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

WP:CEN is now open!

To all interested parties: Now that it has a proper shortcut, the current events noticeboard has now officially opened for discussion!

WP:CEN came about as an idea I explored through a request for comment that closed last March. Recen research has re-opened the debate on Wikipedia's role in a changing faster-paced internet. Questions of WP:NOTNEWS and WP:Recentism are still floating around. That being said, there are still plenty of articles to write and hopefully this noticeboard can positively contribute to that critical process.

Thank you for your participation in the RFC, and I hope to see you at WP:CEN soon! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Why are there so many different sport sections?

There is a Sport section in the "Ongoing events" sidebar, there is a dedicated "Sport" sidebar and then there is the /Sports subpage. Which one do I use when and why? And is it not a bad idea to split current events about sport into so many different sections? Am I missing something here? --Hecato (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

question

hi. sorry, I'm new to this page. how do I make an edit? I already know I'm supposed to use {{Edit fully protected}} if I wish to request edits to a fully-protected page, and simply make the request on the article's talk page; is that the procedure here? if not, where would I make ordinary edits? thanks. sorry for this very basic question. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:52, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sm8900:: Thanks for the question! Each of the days shown here are a separate page; you need to go to the page for that date (Portal:Current events/2019 August 19 is the one for today) and make the edit there. If you want to make an edit to the sidebar, go to the talk page for Portal:Current events/Sidebar and make the request there. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:58, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

ok, that's very helpful. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

How does News content update?

Greetings UnitedStatesian - at Portal:Catholicism/News how does the Template:Transclude selected current events know when to display Catholicism articles? Is it now automatic? Regards, JoeHebda (talk)

@JoeHebda: thanks for the question. That particular template instance automatically takes the six latest Portal:Current events entries that contain the strings "Catholic" (so "Catholics" and "Catholicism" would also be picked up), "Vatican", "Pope", or "Cardinal" (all of which are caps. sensitive), or goes back just one year if there are fewer than six over that time. Hopefully frees up your editing/maintenance time for other areas. Any other questions (or suggestions), let me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

@UnitedStatesian: - Thanks for the answer. The automation is great. 1. How do those articles get archived at Portal:Catholicism/News/Archive? 2. How does the right side image get changed? 3. Previously it was suggested to have only 4 articles. 4. Is there any way to shorten the individual entries? Perhaps with at "Read more" link? Sorry for all the questions, but I thought to ask while fresh in my mind. JoeHebda (talk) 14:38, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

@JoeHebda: no worries, here's each answer. 1) There is not yet an automatic way to archive the articles, but I added commented instructions in the Edit Source view of Portal:Catholicism/News/Archive on how to subst the latest current events onto that page. 2) Changing the image would still be manual. 3) The number displayed is controlled by the |max= parameter; I just set that to 4. 4) The entries come over "as is" from the individual daily subpages of Portal:Current events, so you could edit those subpages to shorten one or more of the entries, but there is no way to have a "read more" link. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

@UnitedStatesian: - Good answers. Hopefully last question - In case of "false hits" then, just delete entry? For example "Alexander Pope" or any person "Pope"; "St. Louis Cardinals",baseball. JoeHebda (talk) 18:10, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

@JoeHebda: Unfortunately the parameters would need to be edited, temporarily removing the one that created the false hit until it no longer appeared in the top 4. (this means editors need to keep an eye on the news section: it is not "set it and forget it"). I have modified the "Cardinal" parameter so that it only returns the singular and not the plural, which should reduce the likelihood. (don't think there's much risk of Alexander Pope being in the news these days.) 18:33, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Add US Open to ongoing section

The US Open is being held right now. Is it okay to add it to the ongoing section? 2600:1702:38D0:E70:6156:AA3B:FB51:D623 (talk) 11:13, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@2600:1702:38D0:E70:6156:AA3B:FB51:D623: the place to raise this suggestion is Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Northeast North America Wind Storm

There has been a "historical" wind and rain storm in northeast North America from October 31 to November 1/2. It left up to 100 mm of rain (in just a few hours) in some places, and winds up to 110 km/h have uprooted trees, broken branches, and torn down power lines. In Québec province alone, almost one million clients of power company Hydro-Québec lost power—more than at any time since the historical Ice Storm of 1998. Many had no power for 24 hours or more, and some 56,000 are still without power now (morning of November 4).

I see no mention of this in the Current events page. Can someone write something? (I'm currently at work and have no time.)

Thanks

CielProfond (talk) 13:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh, so Lidia Guiler Tejada never existed, huh?

Why is the incoming President of Bolivia described as the first woman of that country, when from 1979-1980, a woman already served as acting President? This is in the November 10th box, btw.2607:FCC8:BD46:9500:60BF:D750:7A49:735B (talk) 06:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Acting President is different than President. 331dot (talk) 07:42, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

2019 Hong Kong Protests

How come they are no longer in "Ongoing" if they are still going on? ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 13:28, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: Section for weather events and extreme natural disasters (ongoing and not).

In regards to (CielProfond (talk) 13:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC))'s comment above, is there a valid reason for NOT having these sorts of things documented in current events? At least if they make new records or have resulted in a lot of damage or accidents? Asking. Thanks. - Random User, 02:00, 28 November 2019 (UTC).

Wikimedia Cloud links for current events

I'd like to suggest Wikimedia Cloud links as an option for certain current events items, when suitable. In particular, I'd like to suggest a supplementary link for Armistice Day commemorations worldwide next week for Wikispore Events, in addition to the BBC or other newssite links: i.e., (Wikispore).--Pharos (talk) 16:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Planning to do this again for World AIDS Day observances worldwide.--Pharos (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 28 November 2019

112.133.236.8 (talk) 12:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

The people of Tamilnadu and all the Political parties old and new are eagerly waiting for the Tamilnadu Panchayat Elections 2019 202,0, Theyare going to select nearly 100000 members for the post ov Village Panchayt Pr4esident, Panchayat President Town Panchayat Presidents and District Panchayat President and also Ward Members as councillors for their r4espective Panchayat limits. In Tamilnadu now 20 Corporations waiting to select Mayors and Deputy Mayors for their circle. Atpresent nearly 17 to parties, Independant candidates will try lto jump into the electionszs. Present kdoubt before them is to vote through Ballot papers or by Electronic machines. Let us wait for the Ruling parties decision in this regard. A sum of Rs. 1400 to 10000/ rupees aregoing to be collected from the contesting candidates in this regard by all the ruling and oppositions parties functioning in Tamilnadu now. Message Mathy

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Portal:Current events. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. Izno (talk) 14:25, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Cyber attack being notable.

Is a cyber attack on Pensacola Florida notable enough to be a current event? Elijahandskip (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

What lasting effects did the attack have? Other cities have been paralyzed by cyber attacks, yet I don't see them with stand-alone articles. —C.Fred (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

The Afghanistan Papers

Are The Afghanistan Papers newsworthy? Victor Grigas (talk) 03:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Just reviewed it is a developing story. Abishe (talk) 05:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Methane leak

Is this newsworthy? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/climate/methane-leak-satellite.html Victor Grigas (talk) 19:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

I'd say yes. May be worth it to create an article, too. Kingsif (talk) 14:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Catalan VP article not understandable

The article currently reads, "European Court of Justice sentences that jailed former Vice President of Catalonia Oriol Junqueras had immunity as an elected MEP so he was not unable to acquire the deputy act as Spanish Supreme Court ruled due to his then-provisional prison situation. (The Guardian)"

This is not understandable to me as a native English speaker. Can it be clarified? IAmNitpicking (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 5 December 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is a strong consensus not to move the page at this time. (closed by non-admin page mover) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:55, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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Portal:Current events → Wikipedia:Current events – Wikipedia:Contents was just moved. I believe this and Portal:Featured content should be moved as well to be consistent. Interstellarity (talk) 19:08, 5 December 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. — Newslinger talk 17:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

• Support move to project space. This was originally in the project space and was unilaterally moved to the Portal space without discussion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support this is definitely more of a project page than a portal page.– BrandonXLF (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - Content pages should never be placed at Wikipedia namespace. --NaBUru38 (talk) 17:22, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

• All of the Did You Know content pages also reside in the Wikipedia namespace, in the subpages of Wikipedia:Recent additions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Looks more like a web portal that i've seen on the Internet. SMB99thx XD (contribs)
• Oppose. Would make it seem the page was for discussion or planning, not content. Hyperbolick (talk) 00:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
• Strong oppose It wouldn't make sense to have it in the Wikipedia namespace. It should stay where it is. Felicia (talk) 20:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support Isn't like many other portals; has a link on the left side of the page all times as well. --Bluecrab2 (talk) 21:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
• I agree with moving the page away from its current title (since it clearly isn't a WP:Portal), but not necessarily to the suggested location. But, I can't really think of a better one. So, I guess I support this. ansh.666 22:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - This shouldn't be Wikipedia namespace, it is far too open to almost anyone to edit. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  But many pages in the WP space are open to everyone to edit as well, deletion discussions and noticeboards for example. ansh.666 09:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  I want to remind others in general that WP:OSE, in this particular case we are talking about a highly viewed page. I do not see any benefit in the rationale other than "x did it, so we should do it too". - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. There would no be good shortcuts to it because WP:CE is obviously taken unless we debase ourselves and steal WP:CUR. :P
  Either way, I notified watchers of WP:CEN of this potential change.^{Before anyone claims I didn't give a real rationale, the distinction between projectspace, helpspace, and portalspace is aesthetic at best.}
  –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 06:35, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose the reasons stated are not relevant bringing old portals into the same namespace because they both used to be portals?, as an entry portal current events is a driver, Wiki:Contents is not, this almost seems as a back door rehash of the remove the portal name space discussion again, and as per, there was no direct benefit associated and that change and was not approved.121.99.108.78 (talk) 07:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  This has nothing to do with the portal namespace discussions, as Portal:Current events, like the former Portal:Featured content, isn't a traditional WP:Portal in the first place, having basically nothing in common with the pages that were being considered in the namespace discussion besides location. ansh.666 09:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

• Strongly oppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it.Arglebargle79 (talk) 13:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – It isn't a typical portal, but it's a portal nonetheless. Wikipedia:Contents really isn't a very portal-like page, and there were other reasons behind that move. I don't see a compelling reason to move it to project namespace. Master of Time (talk) 13:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - Changing from "Portal" to "Wikipedia" will imply that this is a WikiProject. This is the official definition of a WikiProject: "A WikiProject is a group of editors interested in collaborating on a specific topic within Wikipedia. A WikiProject is a group of people, not a set of pages, a subject area, or a category. The pages of a WikiProject serve as a central place for coordination, discussion, and organization of the group's activities related to the specific topic. WikiProject pages may be used to develop criteria, maintain various collaborative processes, keep track of work that needs to be done, and act as a forum where relevant issues may be discussed."
  The CE Portal is not a group of people. It is definitely a subject area (current affairs around the world). To debase the CE page to, essentially, a WikiProject is insane as well as inappropriate. Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 13:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  @Kiteinthewind: Not all project space pages are for WikiProjects. WP:AN/I, WP:RFA, WP:WOOD, WP:V, etc. are not related to WikiProjects. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:20, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  @MJL: The ones you listed are WP spaces relating to the administrative works needed to maintain this project, so it can be said that these are WikiProjects relating to the administration of Wikipedia. My argument still stands, that by demoting CE to a WikiProject, it not only does not serve a purpose at all, but endangers the CE page and degrades the credibility of Wikipedia as a whole. Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 17:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose - I disagree that consistency is a relevant factor here; Wikipedia:Contents and Portal:Current_events serve very different purposes, and I believe the portal space is a more appropriate home for Current_events. ComplexParadigm • Talk 16:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - There was no discusssion so u wanted it? Well so now u have. And deal with how it turned out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.45.160 (talk) 20:19, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - the fact that current events is one of the most active portals on en Wikipedia was one of the arguments why the discussion last year was closed with the decision to keep the portals instead of deleteing or moving them. There are multiple other issues and precedents this move would make as mentioned in the above !votes. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - Portal:Current events may not be a traditional Wikipedia portal (though it acts like a general Web Portal), but it would be out-of-place in the Wikipedia namespace. Most of the pages in there (except for a few odd ones) are only of interest to Wikipedia editors. Iwilsonp (talk) 04:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support - This page is very popular and goes beyond what is just simple a Portal page. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 22:47, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - It acts more as a general portal for current event stuff and I don't see how using the name Wikipedia instead would be helpful. So, I think keeping the name Portal is the best way to go. boldblazer 22:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - This page looks like and acts as a portal. It's not intended exclusively for editors which a lot of the WP namespace pages are. User:GKFX^talk 09:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - Strange and unneeded proposal, accomplishes very little if anything. KingAntenor (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
• Support – Seems more of a project than a portal to me. jackchango talk 19:50, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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Protected edit request on 21 December 2019

Please remove the following from the top of the page: <noinclude>{{User:RMCD bot/subject notice|1=Wikipedia:Current events|2=Portal talk:Current events#Requested move 5 December 2019 }} </noinclude>. I have closed the RM as "not moved". GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done -- the wub "?!" 22:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

With regards to 'portals', 'projects', and 'namespaces' (recently voted against changing)

I can see the arguments for and against both, and understand why you believe it wouldn't make sense to move it, but I believe that might be because it doesn't fit *either* type of existing thing correctly. Perhaps the better solution would be to make up a new namespace/category-type merely called 'Current Events' with subtypes for types of events (sort of like how object-oriented programming works, though I'm probably not explaining my idea clearly). So something like a Current Events main page will keep headings and each of those headings will be able to be pulled into yearly pages for things like disasters, elections, weather, major awards and prizes, entertainment (as applicable; stuff like 'new records for opening weekend' I assume would go in sections like this), politics in various countries, etc. Since sub-categories are already being done, this would actually be easier anyway to formalize. I dunno. It really isn't a portal. But it also really isn't a project (this is true). Make sense? Could be I'm trying to describe this too abstractly (or that it'd be difficult for 'regular people' to follow in practice)? Then things like Current Events: Yearly, Monthly, Daily can be aggregated and things like deaths can be merged in or out instead of being selectively chosen like they currently are, for example -- and the yearly pages for things like '20__ in Science' and '20__ in Literature' and the like can be more easily shifted between the two so people don't have to look at subpages in the same way. Again, I'm not sure I'm explaining myself correctly, but I'd be happy to expound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.156 (talk) 18:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

A question about how the 'deaths' are chosen

How are they chosen? I mean no offense to Algeria when I state this, but is there some reason an Algerian general is listed, for instance, as opposed to a dead Premier or Prime Minister (Cain, Mujezinović)? One reason I was suggesting a change might be a good idea. Seems far more egalitarian and less likely to offend if one country's dead politicians, entertainers, writers, etc aren't given more attention than another on the Current Events page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.156 (talk) 18:30, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Did Cain die? The difference between Mustafa Mujezinović and Ahmed Gaid Salah is that the latter died in office. Please click on previous or following link for more information on how the Current events page works. 195.62.68.233 (talk) 10:05, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

edit request; add category

please add this portal to the category Category: History portals. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

MSGJ, thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

"Ongoing"

The explosion of the "ongoing" section is a part of precedent creep that has probably stretched that section to more than what it was originally intended for - that is, to cover topics that remain in the news for an extended period of time. The section clearly serves a useful purpose, not just for truly "ongoing" events, but also for events in which a single blurb is not adequate to capture the nuances and consequences of what is taking place. Hence, I propose again that we take after the approach at the German Wikipedia to simply convert the ongoing section as a repository for "topics of recent interest" - and modify the existing rules to allow for items of notability to appear on the front page of Wikipedia even if it is not itself a discrete event. For example, today one might have links to the List of Middle East peace proposals, Huawei, and Harvey Weinstein. In other words, not every ITN nomination must be "blurbed", topics or articles can be nominated as a standalone link. Point is, not everything that is important that is currently happening can be captured in a "blurb", nor should it be necessary. We are an encyclopedia, we are not a news ticker, the point of ITN is to showcase articles related to things "in the news", not just specific "events" that are in the news.
For those interested in discussion please DO NOT simply respond to this proposal with "oppose" or "support", which despite being a proud ITN tradition is needlessly adversarial. The point is to come to a community consensus on this - since one seems to be emerging organically anyway. Colipon+(Talk) 23:09, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

There is a proposal to add another page to Wikipedia:In The News at Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news#Proposal_for_a_companion_page,_Wikipedia:_In_other_news which could cover this request. ~ R.T.G 14:38, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

this needs a link on the main page, in section, "In the News"

hi. I noticed that the section on the Main Page labeled "In the News" does not link to this page. can we please add a link there? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

edit request

Hi. Please add this portal to the category Category: Current events portal. I appreciate your help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Izno (talk) 01:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

US national emergency

I think that President Trump's declaration of a national emergency should be important enough to be mentioned on In the News. ArmageddonAviation (talk) 21:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

I added it to today's current events section. Isn't big enough news for the main page imo. TomCat4680 (talk) 02:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Agree. Nominations belong at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:46, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

"Black Thursday" gone?

On Thursday in the U.S, the stock market dropped to historic levels we haven't seen since 1987. However, when President Donald Trump declared a state of national emergency yesterday, the stock market suddenly began to recover. Is this why the stock market crash is no longer listed under this portal anymore? Victionarier (talk) 21:52, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

@Victionarier: It's still listed in this portal, meaning at Portal:Current events#2020 March 12. If you refer to {{In the news}} then the content is decided at the "Nominate an article" link. Black Thursday is currently pulled at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Pulled again - Attention needed) Black Thursday (section link may stop working if heading is changed). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Pandemic: US "police warnings"

In Portal:Current events/2020 March 25 I had removed the blurb "2020 coronavirus pandemic in Pennsylvania -> Pennsylvania State Police issue 27 warnings to business continuing to operate despite being ordered to close by Governor Tom Wolf's order to close. (WGAL)" summarizing it "not that important - other countries have hundreds of arrests..."

I was reverted by Dcunn1993 who wrote "Wikipedia has been keeping up with day to day specifics per state in the US since the start of the virus". Yes, Wikipedia has been keeping up with day to day specifics since the start of the virus per hundrends of locations. But "27 police warnings to businesses" are not so much notable than hundrends of arrests in other countries 1600 arrests in Jordany, 250 arrests in Greece, extreme fines etc. There a lot of imporant news and events around the pandemic, we cannot put them all in current events. In fact, some "police warnings" would be never notable enough to be mentioned in a Current events section. They happen every day, per any occasion. -Geraki (talk) 11:14, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Beginning a Teaching session for this portal

So I have been a Wikipedia editor for about 8 months now. I have worked mainly on this portal and I feel like I am somewhat known in this portal's main editors. I am wanting to help anyone new to the portal or Wikipedia and teach/train them about this portal. I want to help anyone wanting to learn and I want to teach them what is something worth this portal vs something for that countries 2020 portal. If you would like help, feel free to message me here or on my talkpage : User talk:Elijahandskip. Have a good day to anyone who reads this. Elijahandskip (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Add to message above. I revived the Wikipedia:WikiProject Current events. Elijahandskip (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 11 April 2020

Add to page. Elijahandskip (talk) 15:50, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: that is a WikiProject banner and they are supposed to go on talk pages — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:46, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus in South Africa

I think South Africa has received little recognition for the coronavirus. When there were still less than 1000 confirmed cases in South Africa, 27 March (Friday) South Africa started their 3 week lockdown (And before the end of week 3, were told 2 more weeks were being added). Because of the early lockdown the cases in South Africa have shot up rapidly. Instead it was a very slow increase( at time of writing there are 2 272 confirmed cases and 27 deaths -14 April ). South Africa has not been mentioned in non South African newspapers or news website. I feel it would be nice for South Africa to have a little recognition. TheWikiAddictReturns (talk) 10:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Every country has its own story of how it has coped with the pandemic. You can get to the articles on individual countries from the main page link under Coronavirus "by location", and then the appropriate continent article, or via the template {{2019–20 coronavirus pandemic}} at the bottom of the location page. Either route will lead to the article 2020 coronavirus pandemic in South Africa for a detailed account of South Africa's story.-gadfium 22:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Recent death : Laisenia Qarase

Laisenia Qarase, former Fiji PM bookended by coups, dies at 79. Source : https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/414735/laisenia-qarase-former-fiji-pm-bookended-by-coups-dies-at-79 --Tensa Februari (talk) 01:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

If you want this to appear on the front page of Wikipedia, you need to propose it at WP:ITN/C. The regular people there probably don't read this talk page. The article will need to be in good shape to be eligble for the front page, so you will need to do some work on sourcing it. The people at ITN/C may help. You can also add the news item to an individual page of the current events portal, in this case Portal:Current events/2020 April 21.-gadfium 05:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Potentially adding a new category for coronavirus related news?

A large quantity of this portal is coronavirus related issues. Perhaps we should consider creating a Coronavirus related section to collate all of this information. Chess (talk) Ping when replying 03:21, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

It's getting a little overwhelming. Its not front page news that whatever town in Lithuania cancelled school for a couple weeks or that country X has diagnosed its Nth case. PoangSitter (talk) 03:43, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree... we need to either create a subsection of daily coronavirus related issues or just include milestone events. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:59, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

@Chess: Unless a centralized discussion is held someplace, nothing will be done. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

@Knowledgekid87: WP:ITN now has a coronavirus specific template. There's no reason why we can't collate stuff either. Chess (talk) Ping when replying 00:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Hiding "bad" news is totally counterproductive and unhelpful. That's what they do in dictatorships. TomCat4680 (talk) 01:50, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Who is mentioning "bad news" here? We should be providing balanced coverage here as we already have a section for ongoing events. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Almost anything having to do with a pandemic is by definition "bad" news. Until they develop a helpful treatment, vaccine, or cure, there's not going be any "good" news. Either way you shouldn't hide a huge section of the most important news of the day. TomCat4680 (talk)

I think you're missing the point Tom. We're not trying to "hide" this news because it's bad, no one has said that. But I don't think we need to flood the current event daily palette with line items about literally every individual country, especially when the events often aren't individually significant. Drailing56 —Preceding undated comment added 17:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah go tell the thousands of people infected that they're not significant. Tell the news people on TV/radio/print that have been talking about it nonstop all week it's insignificant. Tell governors that have closed schools and banned large crowds/events its insignificant. Tell the kids who can't get school meals they're insignificant. Tell the sports leagues, TV series, and Broadway plays that have ended/postponed their seasons/productions its insignificant. Tell the people who can't go to work and pay their bills they're insignificant. TomCat4680 (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Tom cat, we can list GENERAL effects, that large crowds have been banned, schools have been close, events have been cancelled under many jurisdictions, etc, and we are in agreement that by all means all of that's very significant; however, we must NOT be nit-picky about the little details, like which jurisdictions have taken these actions (e.g. listing that country X has banned travel for this many weeks, state Y has shut down schools until so-and-so date, etc.). Do you understand the difference between general and specific outcomes? Victionarier (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

No, I don't because they haven't been defined. What's the consensus on what's "general" enough (just federal or also state/province?) and what's too "specific" (county and/or city?) Until there is one, nothing should be hidden/deleted. TomCat4680 (talk) 22:06, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

The consensus appears to be against you here, we have to provide balanced coverage around the world. Reporting on coronavirus related issues should be limited to the most important breakthroughs. There is a reason for example, on why we are not filling up the current events section with daily updates on the war in Donbass. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:15, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

What consensus? You didn't answer any of my questions. How am I supposed to follow the "rules" if I don't know what they are? What's "important" and what isn't? TomCat4680 (talk) 23:30, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I also want to add that many of the unfolding events are becoming WP:ROUTINE coverage which is already being collected in separate articles. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:20, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

So people looking for news updates have to read every article instead of seeing them all in one place? You know it's affected 140 countries right? Plus several industries (business/finance, television, cinema, sports, special events, etc.) What should be included and excluded? You're being too "general", you need to be more "specific". Don't link to or quote from a guideline either. I want your own words. This is a special instance since worldwide pandemics are pretty rare. TomCat4680 (talk) 23:35, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

My suggestion: the only coronavirus related news on the Portal:Current_events are any of the following (note the examples are examples, not actual events):

1. Significant milestones in recoveries/deaths/cases - i.e. 10k, 50k, 100k, 500k, 1M, 5M, 10M, etc.
2. Significant, national news - i.e. Japan orders all schools closed or Mongolia declares a state of emergency
3. Significant cities of greater than 500k/1M/some-population with full recovery - i.e. New York City has been declared free of COVID-19
4. Major scientific breakthroughs or discoveries - i.e. a cure for the coronavirus has been found - but not "SARS-CoV-2 has certain impacts on the brain" (too inspecific)
5. Major national geopolitical changes - i.e. Germany declares martial law, some country falls into anarchy (extreme but you get the point)
6. Major coronavirus-related events - i.e. United Nations permenantly suspends meetings (intentionally vague for future discussion)

Augend (drop a line) 02:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 May 2020

The results it the first time since 1998 that Republicans flipped a Democratic-held House seat in California. → The results are the first time since 1998 that Republicans flipped a Democratic-held House seat in California.

Thank you, comrade waddie96 (talk) 08:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Apologies I could edit the sub-template. comrade waddie96 (talk) 08:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Picture at Portal:Current events/News Browser

You're invited to join the discussion at Portal talk:Current events/News Browser § Image. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

item not listed in any entry

the item below is not actually listed in any entry not here; not even the entry cited below. can this data please be added to the entry where it would be appropriate? thanks.

Item, May 31:

• Herder–farmer conflicts in Nigeria
  • Armed men riding motorcycles kill at least 18 people, including a local official in Sabon Gari, and steal thousands of livestock in Katsina State, Nigeria. (Reuters)

thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

You are welcome to add it to Herder–farmer conflicts in Nigeria yourself.-gadfium 04:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Topics in the news

I think maybe next to the topics in the news there should be a date next to the event to say when said event happened. TheWikiAddictReturns (talk) 10:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

You can make your suggestion at Wikipedia talk:In the news. The people who work with "In the News" probably don't watch this talk page.-gadfium 19:24, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 19 June 2020

Add discovery of Antarctic egg. Dantheanimator (talk) 22:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You can add this yourself. The individual pages are not protected. There's an edit link on each day header.-gadfium 22:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you gadfium, I didn't see that. Dantheanimator (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

UK made sex illegal

Should probably be added under the law/crime section.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/01/sex-someone-dont-live-illegal-today-12785637/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.84.68 (talk) 14:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

True Chandan Kanti Paul (talk) 07:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Add a comma

Change "In horse racing, Tiz the Law wins the Belmont Stakes, which serves as the initial leg of the Triple Crown for the first time." to "In horse racing, Tiz the Law wins the Belmont Stakes, which serves as the initial leg of the Triple Crown, for the first time." The previous sentence suggests that the Belmont Stakes is serving as the initial leg of the Triple Crown for the first time, which, to my knowledge, is incorrect. I cannot edit that part of the page. Dantheanimator (talk) 18:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

That should be reported at Wikipedia:ERRORS#Errors in In the news.-gadfium 21:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the mistake, I just reported it now. Thank you gadfium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dantheanimator (talk • contribs) 22:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Blatant pornography

Erm there's blatant pornography at the top of this page right now? How has this happened when this page is write protected? :( 62.6.164.86 (talk) 09:15, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

The user who added the image edited a subpage of the page, which was not protected. The edit has since been reverted. CrimsonComputer (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Someone just edited the page with two laughing crying emojis with text “I shit my pants”. What happens now? TheWikiAddictReturns (talk) 14:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@TheWikiAddictReturns: Which specific page are you referring to? The main Portal:Current events page doesn't seem to have been edited since 7 Jan. PohranicniStraze (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I took screenshots (it was the current events/ongoing events page) not sure how to share them TheWikiAddictReturns (talk) 07:25, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

There's no need. The vandalism was on one of the subpages, similar to the report above. It was quickly removed (partly thanks to your report). -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 07:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

HK protests

Is there a reason the Hong Kong protests don't fall under "Ongoing"? (Next to Georg Floyd protests) The Introvert Next To You (talk) 12:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

It was recently removed because the article was not being regularly updated. See Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Removed) Ongoing: Hong Kong protests (which will be archived soon). An item on the Hong Kong national security law was posted to the main part of In The News soon afterwards. If you want to follow this up, or ask further questions about In The News, please use Wikipedia talk:In the news, For errors in that section, use Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors.-gadfium 23:10, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

...because it's basically fizzled out?Rwat128 (talk) 23:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 July 2020 (minor grammar issue)

In the section about the Covid-19 pandemic in vietnam, before the link, there is a comma. Please change this to a period (fullstop). (Just a minor grammatical issue) 122.61.81.119 (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Fixed in Special:Diff/969757998. —⁠andrybak (talk) 12:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Hundreds of people "riot" in Portland?

The line preceding the CNN link, "Hundreds of people gather and riot in Portland, Oregon, marking the 66th night of protests in the city", is problematic. Hundreds of people did gather, but they did not riot. If there was any rioting, it was done by certain individuals, but definitely not by the "hundreds of people". Whoever typed the line made a statement full of weasel words and not supported by fact.RickRiffel2020 (talk) 01:33, 3 August 2020 (UTC)