Draft talk:Chloe Lewis (figure skater)

Undeletion

There was a recent successful AfD for this article, but the arguments in it appear to be lacking. Three editors said the subject fails WP:NSKATE and WP:GNG; while they are right about the SNG, they did not assess in any detail the article's quality sourcing toward GNG. For example, significant coverage can be found in this profile in the Oregonian and this article in the Colorado Gazette. Courtesy ping to @Bgsu98, Toddy1, Big Money Threepwood, and Contributor892z. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

She simply does not meet the criteria set forth in WP:NSKATE: no medal placements at any international senior-level competitions or the World Junior Championships, and no gold medal at the U.S. Championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bgsu98: That's a common misconception, but not how the guidelines are meant to work. In most areas, a subject not passing a subject-specific guideline can still be notable if they meet the basic criteria equivalent to GNG (see WP:SPORTBASIC as well). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 22:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Sports-people get mainstream and specialised news coverage during their career, but often that coverage is removed from news websites when it gets old. That means that a Google news search for "Chloe Lewis" in 2013-18 would probably have produced useful results; but now it does not. The stories may be findable in archives, but search engines are not a big help.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Hameltion: My advice is to improve the article as much as you can with the sources you can find. And gradually you will probably find other reliable sources that that be used to further improve the article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I would suggest working on the current draft and submitting it through WP:AFC. I've submitted a AFC template to aid in this. TarnishedPath^talk 12:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)