Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-04-26/Traffic report
Gun illustration edit
Why is 2023 Covenant School shooting, which was committed with a Kel-Tec SUB-2000 and AR-15 style rifle illustrated with a 200-year-old Brunswick rifle? We have plenty of images of the relevant guns, and the type of gun used is very much part of the subject and the conversations around it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to put a picture of a gun and get it over with. Replaced with the first one of those at your suggestion. igordebraga ≠ 01:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Indian Premier League edit
As an Indian, very surprised to not find it in lower lists. Must have been excluded due to mostly mobile views, which was noted in the second week's list, which implies that it isn't actually a great metric for exclusion. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 13:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- @CX Zoom: Even if I know some Indian subjects are sought mostly by phone (Kisi Ka Bhai Kisi Ki Jaan entered the last two WP:TOP25 with a 90.1% average), we exclude over 94% (as well as less than 10%) of mobile views because it's common that it denotes traffic that is not natural - just see the 2022 annual list, where articles with such numbers include Bible, Skathi (moon), Ansel Adams, Gmail and everything starting with a 'XXX' (plus Cleopatra, which as we told before, is boosted by a Google Assistant prompt). igordebraga ≠ 21:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Let's say some article get 9.4M traffic from Google Assistant, or equivalent services; and 0.7M from normal humans. So, would it feature in the Top 25 report, but if the figure for humans were 0.5M it would not because it would enter the 94% criteria? —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hard to have many cases to deserve this fractioned view, specially with numbers like the ones you put up - keep in mind that as much as we work with weeks, ever since the tool that gave us percentages for such periods went down we work with that one that only gives mobile numbers on a day, month and year basis (primarily the first - and only remember 3 breaking 8 million in a day, Kobe Bryant, Chadwick Boseman and Queen Elizabeth when they died; 84.8%, 87.5%, 73.5% mobile views). Hardly something crosses the thresholds without mostly automated views rather than "people actually mostly seeing it through mobiles (or desktops)", hence we exclude only to be safe, with exceptions whenever necessary. igordebraga ≠ 22:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 23:53, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hard to have many cases to deserve this fractioned view, specially with numbers like the ones you put up - keep in mind that as much as we work with weeks, ever since the tool that gave us percentages for such periods went down we work with that one that only gives mobile numbers on a day, month and year basis (primarily the first - and only remember 3 breaking 8 million in a day, Kobe Bryant, Chadwick Boseman and Queen Elizabeth when they died; 84.8%, 87.5%, 73.5% mobile views). Hardly something crosses the thresholds without mostly automated views rather than "people actually mostly seeing it through mobiles (or desktops)", hence we exclude only to be safe, with exceptions whenever necessary. igordebraga ≠ 22:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Let's say some article get 9.4M traffic from Google Assistant, or equivalent services; and 0.7M from normal humans. So, would it feature in the Top 25 report, but if the figure for humans were 0.5M it would not because it would enter the 94% criteria? —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- @CX Zoom: Even if I know some Indian subjects are sought mostly by phone (Kisi Ka Bhai Kisi Ki Jaan entered the last two WP:TOP25 with a 90.1% average), we exclude over 94% (as well as less than 10%) of mobile views because it's common that it denotes traffic that is not natural - just see the 2022 annual list, where articles with such numbers include Bible, Skathi (moon), Ansel Adams, Gmail and everything starting with a 'XXX' (plus Cleopatra, which as we told before, is boosted by a Google Assistant prompt). igordebraga ≠ 21:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Periods, not commas? edit
I understand it is convention in certain places to use decimals, not commas in large numbers. But I'm not sure that is supported by MOS:NUMBER, nor by any style guide I own. Nor has that been historical practice for TOP25. What changed? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:56, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Given my country uses periods, Toolforge puts them by default. Other contributors sometimes fix them to commas, but this time they skipped it. igordebraga ≠ 21:48, 1 May 2023 (UTC)