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• FYR: Not only Yandex labeling Wikipedia, but also another search engine Mail.ru labels Wikipedia [1]. Secondly, Stanislav Kozlovsky pointed out that the reason for this measure because WMF doesn't open an office in Russia, which doesn't follow Russian regulation, instead of the "fake" information in Wikipedia. Thanks. --SCP-2000 03:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
• Furthermore, there is a WMF Transparency report story regarding Roskomnadzor requests before the Ukraine invasion. --SCP-2000 03:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
• I'm a bit concerned that the WMF were told by a private, outsourced, undemocratic company to Provide access to a geotargeted suicide prevention hotline at the top of the articles on Suicide Methods and the status is marked as "Ongoing". Perhaps it's just not reached any actionable point where community feedback needs to be sought, but it is integral that all matters of content—here the proposal to have content disclaimers—are a matter for the local community to decide. Moreover, I've complained in the past of YouTube using misinformation-related content disclaimers that link to Wikipedia i.e. trying to profit and cost-cut off unpaid and uncredited volunteer labour without consulting the volunteers or donating to the project. I think it would be unfair of us to link to small local suicide prevention hotlines, directing traffic that way rather than ensuring the suitability of our own content, without consulting those hotlines and donating to them. And by that point I would have to ask: is this an effective use of money donated by readers who have been misled into thinking they are paying for "server costs"? — Bilorv (talk) 17:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
• I'm puzzled. While it is all fine & good that the Foundation is concerned about Human Rights, & what effect the projects have on them, why is this a priority for a group that is primarily concerned with making information free & available to everyone? Maybe I simply missed the discussion that justified allocating the finite money & resources to this, but I don't see how what we do "impacts" -- a word which IMHO has a negative connotation -- Human Rights. -- llywrch (talk) 21:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

  Well, they receive so much donation money you see, and they can't spend it on what the volunteers have asked for (more tech infrastructure and responsiveness to tech volunteers) because... um... that would just be giving them what they wanted. — Bilorv (talk) 22:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

  According to Human Rights Policy FAQ and Conversation with Trustees call note, since users have experienced threats or violations to their human rights (e.g. Chinese Wikipedia) and WMF has the responsibility to respect and protect users' human rights, therefore they work on Human Right related stuff. Thanks. SCP-2000 10:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

  This still seems to be a lot of effort in something that could be expressed as "We will protect the rights of our volunteers to contribute to our programs to the best of our ability." Maybe some thought had to be put into defining what "the rights" are, & which ones apply, but there are sufficient existing written sources on that topic that it shouldn't have been that hard. Maybe a week to sift thru the important statements. -- llywrch (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)