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I never thought I'd see a week where there were women in six of the Top 10 spots, for good (Gooooaaaalll!) and for ill (licking doughnuts?). Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Is there a reason why Wambach's sexuality is mentioned - and so prominently too (I'd never heard of her before and thanks to this listing, the first piece of knowledge about her I learned was that she was gay, before I found out what her job was, which is the far bigger deal). The other five women's sexuality isn't mentioned, and neither is that of the only man on the list. It really does make Wiki look like some schoolboy-giggling-at-the-lesbians type when we mention, let alone lead, with something like this. - SchroCat (talk) 11:10, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Homosexuality and transgender issues are fairly hot topics right now, so that could explain why she is so high on the list regardless of her performance in the tournament. Serendipodous 11:52, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- [citation needed] They are always hot topics, but highlighting this lady's sexuality without explanation does nothing but create some divide, pointing out that she is "different" from the others on the list, simply becuase of her sexuality. Our write up suggests she is high because of her retirement, not her sexual preference. If it were down to homosexuality and transgender issues being "fairly hot topics", there would be others on the list, and a more definite connection to the topic. I'm going to take it out becuase it's not doing anything useful, constructive or informative where it is. - SchroCat (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Calling "citation needed" on this list is pretty pointless. All we have to work with is the numbers. We have no information as to why the numbers are the way they are, and sometimes the reasons are not obvious. Serendipodous 12:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Making claims like "Homosexuality and transgender issues are fairly hot topics right now" (to which the citation needed tag was referring) is also pointless, especially when trying to justify including text which doesn't need to be there. There is no connection between these "hot topics" and the need to mention her sexuality. The lady is a professional athlete: treat her as such, or go through and add the details of sexuality for all the others on the list, male and female. - SchroCat (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Why is Carli Lloyd, who scored the winning hat-trick in the final, at no 7, while Abby Wambach, who scored one goal in the entire tournament, is at no 2? There has to be a reason. Maybe it's because she's retiring from international football; maybe it's because she's a married lesbian at a time when gay marriage is dominating the political discussion in the States. Who knows? But I think that both possibilities should be mentioned. When I typed her name into google, the first suggestion that came up in the search box was "wife". Serendipodous 12:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- If you can find a reliable source that points to the reason for her being ahead in the list, then go ahead, but otherwise we're down to your personal opinion, which is absolutely no good reason to lead with the something so spuriously connected. Public affection and selection of reading matter is fickle - David Beckham creates headlines constantly, and had a higher profile in news reports, google hits and Wiki views than his his on-field exploits demanded at times. - SchroCat (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Why is Carli Lloyd, who scored the winning hat-trick in the final, at no 7, while Abby Wambach, who scored one goal in the entire tournament, is at no 2? There has to be a reason. Maybe it's because she's retiring from international football; maybe it's because she's a married lesbian at a time when gay marriage is dominating the political discussion in the States. Who knows? But I think that both possibilities should be mentioned. When I typed her name into google, the first suggestion that came up in the search box was "wife". Serendipodous 12:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Making claims like "Homosexuality and transgender issues are fairly hot topics right now" (to which the citation needed tag was referring) is also pointless, especially when trying to justify including text which doesn't need to be there. There is no connection between these "hot topics" and the need to mention her sexuality. The lady is a professional athlete: treat her as such, or go through and add the details of sexuality for all the others on the list, male and female. - SchroCat (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- Calling "citation needed" on this list is pretty pointless. All we have to work with is the numbers. We have no information as to why the numbers are the way they are, and sometimes the reasons are not obvious. Serendipodous 12:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
- [citation needed] They are always hot topics, but highlighting this lady's sexuality without explanation does nothing but create some divide, pointing out that she is "different" from the others on the list, simply becuase of her sexuality. Our write up suggests she is high because of her retirement, not her sexual preference. If it were down to homosexuality and transgender issues being "fairly hot topics", there would be others on the list, and a more definite connection to the topic. I'm going to take it out becuase it's not doing anything useful, constructive or informative where it is. - SchroCat (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
[outdent]If you look at the Google results for the week in question, you will see that they are dominated by mentions of her kissing her wife after the win. Serendipodous 12:45, 17 July 2015 (UTC)