Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Asian Month/Archive 1

Criteria about region

Hi, can you please explain about the country or region criteria. I believe articles are there for most villages for communities like India and creating new articles may be difficult. So I believe it is for any entity in Asia excluding Hong Kong and Singapore? Ssriram mt (talk) 07:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

@Ssriram mt:, any article about Asian counts. Culture, politics, people, etc. I will talk with other organizers about situation of ENWP that hard to create new articles.--AddisWang (talk) 16:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

We had some discussion about this with the organizers, and given the complexity and geographic scope of the English Wikipedia, perhaps it would be fair to drop the geographical restrictions on the project in favor of writing about any country. However, if you're from a postcard-sending country (China, India, Indonesia, Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan or Thailand) and you decide to primarily write articles about your country, you won't receive a postcard from that country. You can, however, receive postcards from the other six countries provided the criteria are met. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 03:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Does this mean, if I'm from India and I create five articles about India which satisfy the criteria, I won't get any postcards? Fenopy (talk) 11:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

That is the idea, yes. If most of your articles are about your country, that defeats the purpose of the project. The reason for this is because the project is designed to encourage Wikipedians to contribute content on Asian countries other than their own, building understanding in the process. That understanding doesn't happen when you decide to write articles about your own country. (Note though that this isn't final, and the other organizers may differ in opinion from me on this.) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 23:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Fenopy and Sky Harbor:Seems lots of confusion here. So if you write Indian articles on English Wikipedia, you don't really get more understanding of India since you already have, while many other English speakers can understand more through you effort. But if you write Indian articles on let's say Hindu Wikipedia. Most people speak Hindu know pretty well about India. So, if you write about India on English Wikipedia, you will get postcard (but not sent from India) as long as your article fulfill the standard.--AddisWang (talk) 00:21, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

New rule for WAM

Hi @Titodutta and SuperHamster:, above I found it could be hard to create a new article on EnWp than other Wikipedias. I want to propose a new rule for EnWp, that:

You can also expand an article. The original size of the article need to be less than 4000 Bytes. You need to expand this article to 5 times of it's original size, as well as at least 4000 Bytes and 300 English words for expansion

--AddisWang (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: I like and agree with this idea. I think it's fair considering how many articles we already have; it'll definitely encourage participation. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Technically the idea merits to be adopted. Nannadeem (talk) 13:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

English-speaking Hong Kong and Singapore not included?

Why do English-speaking Hong Kong and Singapore are excluded? Philippines is also an English-speaking nation but included. --Jojit (talk) 05:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Jojit. This is partially my fault, as I was explaining earlier this week to the other organizers that we should either get rid of all the country restrictions, or expand them to include Malaysia, Israel, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. I also stressed that the Philippines is an English-speaking country, although perhaps it was removed because it was felt that it wasn't an English-speaking territory (though we know it is). As I mentioned above, I think it's fair to remove geographical restrictions for the English Wikipedia, replacing it instead with restrictions on who gets postcards. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 12:36, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks Sky Harbor! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:36, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone please explain me what does it mean!

As it is mentioned there Wikipedians who create the most articles on each Wikipedia will be honored as "Wikipedia Asian Ambassadors". What does it mean by Each Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dksats (talk • contribs) 05:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

• Each Wikipedia should mean every language Wikipedia, the number of articles you will create on English Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia and so on. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:58, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

• @Titodutta: That means anyone who can create the most no. of articles including any language will be the winner, right !! -- Deepak Satapathy (talk)

  @Dksats:Make a clear statement: Each language version of Wikipedia will have a "Wikipedia Asian Ambassador". So if you contribute most articles on English Wikipedia, you will be honored as "Wikipedia Asian Ambassador". In this case, each language version Wikipedia is working independently.--AddisWang (talk) 13:53, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Can We Start now?

Can we start creating new articles from now on

• User:Dev271

@Dev271: We're officially counting edits made in the month of November. If you can't wait to get editing, you could make a draft of an article and work on it there, then move it into the mainspace when it's ready in November. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:36, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

An article should be for any South Asian countries culture or anything?

Can I write article for Pakistani culture including Sindhi culture traditions, geographical areas including villages, people even Can I write article for any south Asian country such as India?...Jogi 007 (talk) 06:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

@Jogi don:South Asia is part of Asia.--AddisWang (talk) 21:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

where should I submit articles regarding Wikipedia Asian Month November 2015 Jogi 007 (talk) 11:17, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@Jogi don:Like others at this page.Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month/Participants--AddisWang (talk) 14:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Rules seem confusing and contradicting

I'm a little bit confused with these rules:

• The new article must be created by you (i.e. not expanding stubs) between 0:00 UTC on November 1, 2015 and 23:59 UTC on November 30, 2015.
• You can also expand an existing article. The original size of the article needs to be less than 4000 Bytes. You need to expand this article to 5 times of it's original size, as well as at least 4000 Bytes and 300 English words for expansion. The edits during the event will be count only.

Do the statements above mean that we cannot expand stubs but we can expand non-stub articles? Also, the second rule states that the article to expand needs to be less than 4,000 bytes. That statement seems contradicting because according to the first rule, I cannot expand stubs and stubs are usually less than 4,000 bytes. --Jojit (talk) 07:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Please also offer your alternate proposed figures. I think restriction of stubs should be waived off. Nannadeem (talk) 13:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Jojit fb and Nannadeem:Sorry I forget to remove the "not expanding stubs". Does the updated rules make sense?--AddisWang (talk) 13:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

AdisWang thanks, to me its ok. However, I request to include topic "Educational" as well. Is there any time bar for sign-up as participant? Nannadeem (talk) 14:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nannadeem:As I put "etc" on it, just to explain that anything about Asian countries does not means only geographical. No, you can sign up anytime but only your edit in November counts.--AddisWang (talk) 15:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I think, preliminary task is almost clear. Thanks to all organizers. Nannadeem (talk) 17:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks AddisWang. It's clear to me too. Wishing all the best to organizers and participants and hoping that we all contribute valuable content to Wikipedia. :-) --Jojit (talk) 01:14, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

We can put here Sanskrit Wikipedia also ?

Hi @Titodutta: ! We want to join this activity. But sa.wikipedia is not listed here. My kind request to you that, please allow us to contribute in this. Or please tell me what are the criteria for this activity. Thank you. NehalDaveND (talk) 07:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

• The main page is on Meta at meta:Wikipedia Asian Month. Please discuss it on your village pump and then start a page similar to this En WP page. Let me know if you have any questions. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Titodutta: Udit Sharma has made a page in sa.wikipdia. see here. But there is a problem. We can't see the Sign up Button. Please put the button there. Thank you. NehalDaveND (talk) 10:55, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

• That Clickable button is not working there. Check if you missed it anything while importing, you can a simple link too Sign up here until it works. --Tito Dutta (talk) 11:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for Guidance. NehalDaveND (talk) 11:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Titodutta: Last question is that, can organizer write articles and there articles will be counted ? NehalDaveND (talk) 11:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@NehalDaveND:, yeah, but should be checked by other organizers. So please invite some other Wikipedian to join you. If there is only one organizer in the end. We are likely to trust you that your articles is fulfill the standard, since we still can check the basic byte and words.--AddisWang (talk) 00:25, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

List of articles needing to be created?

I love the idea of this campaign, but I am curious, is there a list of articles needing to be created? It would be helpful to know where there are content gaps. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:46, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I am still having trouble finding articles that need to be created. Would a project organizer be interested in starting a list of content gaps? People could add to the list, remove/strike entries as they start new articles, and it could even be liked from the main Wikipedia Asian Month page to encourage new contributions. --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:18, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Another Believer:We changed the rule that expanding stub is also ok since English Wikipedia has huge amount of articles and hard to create one.--AddisWang (talk) 00:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Great. I guess I was just wondering if any Asia-related WikiProjects provided lists of missing articles. If not, no problem, just thought it might be good to provide participants with lists of articles they could consider creating (or expanding). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:57, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

There are tons of missing articles. Check out these two lists, for example: List of members of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and List of members of the 11th National People's Congress. -Zanhe (talk) 02:05, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Perfect! Thank you. I would consider displaying even more articles/lists with redlinks for people to tackle, either here on the talk page or even on the main page itself. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:09, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

There are many lists lying around, here are some:

• Wikipedia:Requested articles/By country - under Asia
• Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Requested articles
• Wikipedia:WikiProject China/User requests
• User:Skysmith/Missing topics about History of China
• User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Buddhism
• User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Hinduism
• User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Islam
• User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Samurai-era Japan

_dk (talk) 04:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic. Thanks for sharing. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I further propose and request to have a page one SK Official page for its URL and facebook page both in English and Urdu see this[1] & [2]. Nannadeem (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

All Asia related Wikiprojects have their own requested articles lists.--Catlemur (talk) 23:11, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red has a list here: Asian Women, only don't choose from the Asian-Americans under the US for this project. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Here is the list of requested article related to Pakistan

Jogi 007 (talk) 12:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Asian Contries?

As far as i understood is that, a user should create atleast five new articles according to the rules mention, related to Asian culture, politics etc. But the question that i want to know is that on which Asian country we have to create articles, will these countries be specified on November 1 or we can choose any country or countries in Asia to write an article on. Plus do we will be given a list of articles to create or it is solely depends on us to choose article or Asian country, suppose i am from Pakistan so can i create five articles on Pakistan? please answer because i have plans in my mind for this project. Nauriya^Talk 20:13, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

For Asian countries here are numbers and names in this page List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Asia. Logically, it is deduced that articles can be written without limit of region, i.e. 5 different articles can be submitted on Lahore alone or whole territory of Pakistan, about its culture, historical or archaeological asset, politics etc. It is further understood that any user can write 5 different articles on 5 different countries in Asia. These explanations are subject to secondment from organizers. Nannadeem (talk) 17:39, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nauriya and Nannadeem:The list above shows which country or region topic will count. There is no limit on have to about one country. The standard is simple that any topic about Asian.--AddisWang (talk) 00:29, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Misconfigured CentralNotice

There is currently a CentralNotice linking to this page that's running in all countries. The m:CentralNotice/Calendar says it's only supposed to be running in Asian countries. Could someone please fix this? --Yair rand (talk) 18:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Rule question

I'm confused with this rule: You can also expand an existing article. The original size of the article needs to be less than 4000 Bytes. You need to expand this article to 5 times of its original size, as well as at least 4000 Bytes and 300 English words for expansion. Only the edits made during the event will be counted.

1. Do the number of words count in the references? Or only the words underneath headings count?

   No, but words counting are roughly

2. The original size needs do be less than 4000 bytes. Can i expand a stub? If the stub was originally 1000 bytes, I'd have to expand it to 5000 bytes to satisfy the 5x the size and 4000 bytes?

   at least 4000 Bytes. So if the original size is 500 Bytes, 5 times still not enough

3. I don't live in an Asian country. Can I still participate? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

   @MrLinkinPark333:No limit on this.--AddisWang (talk) 02:12, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

For #3, I don't think it matters where you live. I don't live in an Asian country either. -Zanhe (talk) 01:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: Regarding #2: If my math is right, I'd have to find an article between 1000-3999 Bytes from when I originally edited it? What if other users edit the article I'm working on. Would you only count my edits? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333:, any article less than 4000 Bytes. Sorry I don't get why it's "1000-3999". Why below 1000 isn't ok? In think in most case if someone add a few Bytes, we can just ignore it. While if someone else also expand it. I guess we should only count your edits.--AddisWang (talk) 02:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

One thing you can keep in mind is, Wikipedia Asian Month is not a competition or something like DYK, has strict rule etc. The rule will be flexible as long as the article is good. Let's say you create a new article but only 3900 Bytes, we would still count this if it fulfill other standards.--AddisWang (talk) 02:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

• Proposal I suggest we use the long established DYK rules instead: minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (about 300 English words), but excluding infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables etc. That takes away the ambiguity and prevents padding. There are tools that make the character count easy: User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js and Character count. -Zanhe (talk) 01:51, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

  Good idea, though I'm not familiar with DYK on EnWp. Let me get more consensus on this. @Titodutta, SuperHamster, and Sky Harbor:--AddisWang (talk) 02:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

  Makes sense. Good idea. --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:00, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

  I'm good with it too. Easy for anyone already familiar with DYK, and having tools to make judging easier is great. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Titodutta, SuperHamster, Sky Harbor, and Nannadeem: I updated the rule. Please take a look. BTW does it need to be five times? and does it need to be requirement of minimum bytes?--AddisWang (talk) 23:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Please also take a look on the discussion below. #Error in rules--AddisWang (talk) 01:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

• Proposal I suggest there should be numbering to sign-up for evaluation of total participants at a glance. Nannadeem (talk) 17:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

  @Nannadeem:Sorry I don't get what you mean.--AddisWang (talk) 20:31, 31 October 2015 (UTC):

@AddisWang: thanks, I mean serial numbers 1, 2, 3, ... n before the user's name who sign-up as participants. It will ease us to count how many participants are here. Nannadeem (talk) 20:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nannadeem:Haha, I just "find" "(talk · contribs)" and see how many result.--AddisWang (talk) 21:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nannadeem: I went ahead and added numbering. It resets for each section, unfortunately. Thanks! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

IPs

Why are IPs prohibited from participating and being actively removed from the participant list? I've noticed a fair amount of vandalism where IPs are registered existing or non-existing users, but there are thousands of editors who only edit through an IP and should not be barred from participating. They should be able to add their name to the participant list using their IP address. Mkdw^talk 12:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

The reason is, that it is hard to track the IP users.And even IP user is ok, most ip user signed up with a user name, or a non-exist user name. There is only one IP user actually use its ip address, as I remember--AddisWang (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Plenty of IPs have consistent static IPs. I think it would be a gracious gesture if we allow them participate. Others might have been dissuaded, especially experienced editors who use only IPs because they would have read all the criteria on the project page. Mkdw^talk 16:51, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Changed.--AddisWang (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I see only one problem with IP participation, and that's how they can create articles if on the English Wikipedia anonymous users are not allowed to create new pages. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 07:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

IP users can create new articles in DRAFT-namespace. If you get the participating IP editors to add the WP:ASIA banner to the DRAFTTALK-page it will appear into the WPASIA drafts category Category:Draft-Class Asia articles (or similar ones for the subprojects Category:Draft-Class Western Asia articles/Category:Draft-Class South Asia articles/Category:Draft-Class Central Asia articles/Category:Draft-Class East Asia articles/Category:Draft-Class Southeast Asia articles) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:26, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Translations

How are translations counted, if no English language equivalent exists, does this count as a new article or do the expansion of existing article rules apply.--KTo288 (talk) 18:25, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@KTo288:, if you translate some articles to English Wikipedia, you need either create an article or expand a stub to do so. --AddisWang (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Other wiki-project?

Can other wiki-projects partecipate, like Wikivoyage? With a formal engagment of it:voy I could spread the message within the Italian community. Furthermore, would be great if some Japanese speaker would help to bring out from the incubator the Japanese version of Wikivoyage. --Andyrom75 (talk) 21:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andyrom75. We don't have enough time to prepare for other WIki project but it is very great if Wikivoyage could also has an Asian Month. All the resource and information that you need to make a local event page you can find it on meta. As long as you make similar rules as we have for Wikipedia Asian Month, I would very pleasant to send some postcards for participants. Also, it will be great if you would like to organize Asian Month on ItWp.--AddisWang (talk) 00:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. As per my experience on it:voy community, an official competition works much more better than an informal one. It would be for the next time. Unfortunately I'm not so much active on it:w as I am on it:voy, so I'm not able to push for it there. But thanks for proposing it. Cheers, --Andyrom75 (talk) 07:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

People question

I have been looking around for people to write on, and I have another question.

If this person is/was Asian but not born in Asia (e.g. U.S) would it still count? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:38, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333:Since it's topic about Asian countries, I would say people who born in Asian but get their success or famous outside Asia would count. But ethnic Asian born in outside Asian will not.--AddisWang (talk) 20:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Postcard question

When you people say "send postcards", do you mean sending real postcards to the user's address or emailing e-cards to the user? 61.3.104.198 (talk) 12:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Good Question. Nannadeem (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

We mean actual, physical postcards that we will send to you personally. That will be done in the months after the contest. :) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 14:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Hum, this means that if we are eligible to the reward, we will have to give our adress and real name... I don't like this idea of publishing such personal data on the web. On another hand, I really would enjoy receiving a postcard ! Can we find a mean to give our personal data in a secure way? Polypone (talk) 09:20, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

In my opinion, the original idea of dispatching P-Card (tangible, visible, legible and physically quotable) should not be dropped on some personal reservations. Nannadeem (talk) 14:54, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I am also eager to receive the postcard, and I am sure we will find a way. Maybe not on Wikipedia: as said on the Privacy Policy: "Information that you post is public and can been seen and used by everyone". We might use something as a google form or something like that, which an organizer might create to receive the addresses in a hidden way. Polypone (talk) 15:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nannadeem and Polypone:, there is a Q&A to explain your question. We won't ask anyone to post personal information on Wikimedia project.--AddisWang (talk) 15:40, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

The idea of google form or something like that is acceptable. However, I propose that there should be a provision for auto confirmed users to opt either

• (i)issuance of post card in their name and given address (duly updating their own e-mails) and web-based email service provider company may be asked/requested to deliver that card to its email user on behalf of Wikipedia. In this case Participants of this project may be asked to update their e-mail data. In case of non-delivery a recipient may contact at local office of that company or its representative.
• or (ii)post card in their user name or real name per their mode of information i.e. google form etc.Nannadeem (talk) 20:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Error in rules

Hi, It is nice initiative. In current version, 3rd rule is wrongly stating WP:DYK criteria for existing stubs. According to DYK, existing stub should be expanded by 5 times of original size and not expansion by 1500 characters. According to criteria 1500 characters criteria is for brand new articles not for existing stubs. But if expansion by 1500 characters is allowed for purpose of this initiative then at least we can remove word DYK from rules. --Human3015^TALK  00:25, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I asked above in #Rule question since I also confused.I agree we can remove DYK at this time--AddisWang (talk) 00:31, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: Thanks for correction but still I have question or want clarification. Now 3rd rule says "You can also expand an existing article. The minimum of 1,500 characters of expansion (about 300 English words)". 1500 characters means around 15-20 lines. If we add 15-20 lines to any article then it will get counted?--Human3015^TALK  00:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015:That is my orignal thought that I also asked above. I guess we need to put the stub can be expanded should less than 4k bytes. And also the 1500 Bytes does not include templates infobox etc.--AddisWang (talk) 00:50, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I think "stub" article should be expanded, you should add word "stub" in front of "existing article". If expansion by just 1500 characters is allowed for any article, then 1500 characters can be added to articles like Jakarta, Mumbai. That will not be so effective to increase coverage and expansion of Asia related topics. So only stubs should be improved. I am agree with you.--Human3015^TALK  01:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I recovered to the old rules and see if people have further thought above.--AddisWang (talk) 01:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Edits acknowledgements

How our edits be counted,like after creating article what should we have to do, where to report that we have created an article or you have automatically dedtective system or something like that. Nauriya ^Talk 10:50, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nauriya: report contribution like this, otherwise we cannot know if your article if accomplished.--AddisWang (talk) 06:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violations

I know everyone here is aware about various tools, but still writing this, one can check for possible copyright violations using Earwig's tool. Just type name of article and click on submit. For example you can check copyright violation for my recently created article India-Laos relations which says "violation unlikely". Those articles with possible copyright violation should be rejected and should be accepted after improvement. Our rules do not mention word "copyright violations", actually this is very serious issue. Anyone can copy-paste things from other websites. I think rules should clearly mention that there should not be any "copyright violation" or "copy-paste". --Human3015^TALK  02:14, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015:, yes I agree. In fact I think (I don't know) English Wikipedia has the mechanism to filter the copyright violations that those articles contains copyrighted content will be nominate to delete or something like this. I just go through all the article I mark as (Y) by the tool you provided, everything seems good so far. I adjust the rule to make a more clearly, though I still think that those article should not be accepted by Wikipedia in the first place.--AddisWang (talk) 02:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: I think admin Titodutta can tell better regarding edit filters. You are active on which Wikipedia? I have linked some copyright policies in rules. Hope it is ok. What is mean by (P) you are marking to some pages? --Human3015^TALK  03:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015:, Chinese Wikipedia. People who patrolling articles will use the zh:Template:Copyvio to replace the content, reviewed by admins after 7 days, and delete it if copyright violates without any new version on temporary page. Since ZhWp adopts the rules from EnWp, I suppose it is similar or even sophisticated here. That's mechanism that I mentioned on who those article are "filtered", sorry for the confusion.--AddisWang (talk) 03:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

P means we will still give you a postcard if you have four qualified articles, and one that does not fully qualified. Does not mean anything other than this situation.--AddisWang (talk) 03:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

It is nice that you are active on Chinese Wikipedia. English Wikipedia also has Template:Copyvio. Here also editors replace content with copyvivo template. I think Earwig's tool is quick way to find possible copyvio. If something is copied from XYZ website and that website is not mentioned or attached in article still that tool shows that website. I know this tool because I have become active on DYK recently, there other editors check possible copyvio with same tool. --Human3015^TALK  03:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Make sense. I found the Earwig's tool is very powerful and thinking to do a few test on Chinese and maybe introduce to Chinese Wikipeidans,--AddisWang (talk) 03:49, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

yes, good idea, best luck.--Human3015^TALK  04:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015:, So I detected Tarlac National High School is copyright infringement, what do i suppose to do? Never done this kind of thing on EnWp. Does people use Twinkle to do this job here?--AddisWang (talk) 21:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: This article's check is showing copyright violation and many things are copied from this website. I see some admins fighting against copyright issues. They simply remove matter copied from other website and give edit summary of "WP:COPYVIO, copied from www.xyz.com". In this article, history section seems to be copied from this website, you can remove matter whatever you think copied from that website. My experience in this issue is not much. We check for copyright violation when article gets nominated at DYK, if we find copyvio then we simply reject article and suggest nominator to fix copyright issues. If you think that entire article is copied then you can replace content with Template:Copyvio. You can leave quick note on this admin's talk page, that admin is very active in fighting against copyright violations. --Human3015^TALK  21:59, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: Hi, I have found some information. You can read How to clean copyright infringements. Also message at User talk:Moonriddengirl for quick suggestions. They are expert in this issue. Hope you like English Wikipedia and will contribute here too along with Chinese Wikipedia. --Human3015^TALK  22:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015:, thank you! Very helpful!--AddisWang (talk) 03:23, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Where to report

Where do I report the new articles I write under this project? I started this Baolis of Mehrauli yesterday--Nvvchar. 02:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nvvchar: Hi, write it in front of your name in participants list. --Human3015^TALK  02:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nvvchar:And make sure you finish it before report it.--AddisWang (talk) 02:40, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Size question

What does it mean in the rules that you have to expand an existing article by 5 times it's size? Does that mean the number of lines or sections? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: Yes, you can say "number of lines" or "number of words" in prose (excluding words in charts, image caption, table, infobox etc). If existing article is having just 5 lines then you should expand it 5 times means nearly 25 lines. It should at least have 300 words. For example, if existing article is having just one line then its 5 times will be 5 lines, this article will not be considered. Resulting article should have at least 300 words, means around 20-25 lines. If article is having 20 lines then expansion should be by 100 lines.--Human3015^TALK  21:35, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015: - I thought it meant that the total would have to be 5 times it's original size (e.g. 10 lines original = 50 lines expanded version). But in that example, would it instead be 10 original+50 expanded=60 total? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@LinkingPark, your question is nice. I think rules says that article should get expanded "to 5 times of its original size", so, if original size is 10 lines then its 5 times will be 50 lines. Still I'm pinging organizer @AddisWang:, for more clarification. I'm also contestant.--Human3015^TALK  22:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333 and Human3015:This is the orignal thought. Does this make sense? Do you guys think this could be too harsh?--AddisWang (talk) 23:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

There was also one version where it was written stub articles expanded by 1500 characters or 300 words will also be considered. I think that was ok. 5 times is really harsh. Any article less 4000 bytes should be expanded by 300 words instead of 5 times. And you were written it in one version but "DYK criteria" was written before it, so that time I said to remove "DYK" but rest of things were ok. --Human3015< /span>^TALK  00:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I see the problem here. How does current version looks like? If require people to add specific number of words, it is hard to deter if the expansion really has these amount words. While if we don't, people can adding photos and templates to a nice stub with the words already.--AddisWang (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

BTW, we never use "lines" in ZhWp to describe an articles. Get confused in the first time see it on EnWp.--AddisWang (talk) 00:36, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: The expanding rule looked too complicated compared to starting a new article. I think the new one is alright. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:43, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, current version is alright. @MrLinkinPark333 Now no need to expand stub article 5 times, we just have to expand article by 300 words. That is good thing for contestant. @AddisWang On English Wikipedia also we use "words" not "lines" but Linking Park was asking about lines so I was telling him in line. 300 words usually makes around 20 lines. We can hope that every participant will read this update. Because every participant has participants page on watchlist, not all of them have this main page on watchlist.--Human3015^TALK  01:10, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015 Yes, I saw the updated rule. It is surprisingly difficult to add 300 words to an article. I've submitted an article today for review. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333:My concern is, that we require to have 300 words in a new article, so we may not want to lower the requirement for expanding articles. The 300 words is flexible standard.--AddisWang (talk) 04:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: 300 words is alright. I was having trouble with my article because I could only find a handful of sources. Perhaps when I start on a different article, it'll be different. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 05:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Notability of Asian female company directors

I have written an article about Khunying Thongtip Ratanarat, the co-founder and female Executive Director of the Petroleum Institute of Thailand and would now need some help on assessing the notabilty, please. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 03:30, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

I have placed my observation at the [3] page that:deletion tag for an article being submitted in a contest is unwarranted. If organizer(s) of WAM holds the page with marking of "N" then user proposing deletion may tag in this regard. Nannadeem (talk) 04:32, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Copy editing

I think the project page needs copy editing for grammar and style. Otherwise, it will look quite ironic. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 17:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

@AddisWang: I agree. Also, the pending articles section on the Participants page should be edited due to changes in the rules. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333 and The Average Wikipedian:Please feel free to do any copy editing as needed. I will ask if any edit does not make sense to me.--AddisWang (talk) 21:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Question about talk page template

Hi @Titodutta, SuperHamster, and Human3015:I made this template on zhwp which shows like this on the talk page. It basically says this article is contributed during the Wikipedia Asian Month, and also give these talk page a Category, to conclude all articles has been checked. Does similar things work on EnWp, any problem or conflict it may raise?--AddisWang (talk) 14:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what has been written on Chinese template. But I think this template gives category to talk page of articles that this article was part of WAM. I think there is no problem in creating such kind of template. I'm new on Wikipedia, joined in 2015, does same kind of WAM was happened last year? If yes then does last year's articles has same category or not? --Human3015^TALK  15:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015: I believe WAM is new this year? :)

@AddisWang: That's a great idea, and I don't see any problems arising. We can make a new category. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:11, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@SuperHamster:Template:WAM talk 2015--AddisWang (talk) 20:17, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Japanese gardens around the world

Hi there. Is it possible to include Japanese gardens from anywhere in this contest? (for instance, a Japanese garden in Iceland or Swaziland?). Thanks for your kind reply! Regards, --Fadesga (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@Fadesga:It like ethnic Asian people born and live in other countries, like Asian Americans, can not be count for this event.--AddisWang (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Word length

I see that the word length was changed with this edit from "around 300 words" to "at least 300 words". Obviously, articles longer than 300 words are welcomed, but this seems to be a serious rule change in the middle of a project. I had the impression in creating articles that while the character limit was fixed, the word limit was flexible. (Indeed, I created a few articles of 260 words, thinking that they probably wouldn't be improved with the extra 40 words, which would be mere padding.) So it's very unfair for editors to change these rules after editors have created articles in good faith. I think it should be changed to something like a minimum of around 300 words. StAnselm (talk) 21:34, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Or indeed "roughly", which is the word used with respect to article expansion. I have gone ahead and made the change. StAnselm (talk) 23:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

As replied on my talk page. Our tool gives us a roughly word count, which is usually more than it actually has. So if the tool says the article is more than 300 words but actually it does not have 300, we will still count it.That is the kind of flexible we want to give--AddisWang (talk) 02:18, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Where can I change the translation

The text in the sitenotice in Bulgarian links to this project page, instead of to the local project page. I have forgotten where I have translated it. Could someone, please, tell me where it was? Thanks in advance, --Lord Bumbury (talk) 21:35, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I think it's already been done? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

No, I meant the "banner" on top of the page - it links to the global project page (i.e. this page) istead to the local one (i.e. the one you linked to). --Lord Bumbury (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawal in protest

Due to move/merger of my newly created page for WAM competition Hussaini Barahmins on 5 Nov-2015, now on 20 November the page has below 4000 bytes after its postmortem, which was Originally standing at approx 16000 bytes, I hereby withdraw from this competition in protest. Nannadeem (talk) 15:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I reproduce the last rule and role of WAM jury and request interpretation of rule and role of Jury for the EN-WP WAM:

• Rule:The article must have a direct relation (cultural, geographical, political, etc.) to any Asian country, region or territory.
• Role:Note that at the end of the project, the Wikipedia Asian Month jury for the English Wikipedia will determine whether an article qualifies for inclusion or not under these criteria.

Thanks.Nannadeem (talk) 10:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Cyprus

In Wikipedia under the List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Asia, Cyprus is listed here, but it is a Mediterranean country. Will it be valid if articles related to Cyprus are created or expanded under the Asian month project? Otherwise, please list the countries of Asia intended under this project.--Nvvchar. 07:24, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nvvchar: I expanded an article of a priest in Cyprus, and it counted. I think it's one of those gray areas where it counts and doesn't count at the same time. See here. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Anywa I will create two articles.--Nvvchar. 05:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Inner Mongolia

Does Inner Mongolia count as a region in Asia? It's part of China, but it's not part of the Asian list of regions, and countries.

Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:39, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not one of the Asian Month directors, but the answer is "yes". Inner Mongolia is part of China, which is part of the Asian Month list. Even if you contest that Inner Mongolia is owned by China (some people do), the alternative would be that it's owned by Mongolia, which is also part of the Asian Month list. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay, wasn't sure since it wasn't part of the list. Thank you. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Cellist

Inspired by the topic (and without studying rules, I created an article, which is on the Main page now (but have no time for more (other than Midori Suzuki): DYK ... that the violinist Ryo Terakado, who was concertmaster of the Tokyo Philharmonic, recorded Bach's Cello Suites on a violoncello da spalla? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

In case you need more ideas for articles: Bach Collegium Japan#Members, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Southeast Asia Articles

I have not yet received any update regarding the judging and related process for Wikipedia Asian Month Contest. I've created the following articles(that I made even after a very busy schedule at work)-- Titanium Sponge Plant in India, SERVIR Mekong Project, Battle of Chach, Azerbaijan-India relations, Accessible India Campaign, Atal Mission for Rejuvenation and Urban Transformation, keeping the rules intact. Please maneuver this request to proper platform, if it is not that relevant here. Thank you. hey_pal (Friend.hey)^(talk) 20:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it has anything to do with the region. Rather, I think it's that the judges have stopped judging. I've got three from early in the month that haven't been reviewed. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:53, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

So this award and contest thing is not working now??hey_pal (Friend.hey)^(talk) 08:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

@Friend.hey: Hi there - you need to submit your articles at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month/Participants next to your username. Please do so ASAP, since the end of the month is soon!

We've (fortunately) got a huge number of participants on the English WIkipedia, and there is a large number of submissions that need reviewing. Other organizers and myself are reviewing submissions the best we can with the time we have. Reviews of articles will continue through December, so no worries if your articles haven't been reviewed by the end of November - they will be reviewed. If there is a problem in amount of words (i.e. 20 words less than needed), and you were not notified about this in November, your article will pass to WAM criteria. Thanks for your concern, and sorry if you've been left hanging! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:20, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month banner

I've seen the banner for Wikipedia Asian Month several times (can't find it now, though). I just wanted to point out that "This month is the Wikipedia Asian Month" is not correct. It should be "This month is Wikipedia Asian Month" or "November is Wikipedia Asian Month". "The" is not necessary. Corinne (talk) 00:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

I just saw the banner again, and I see it starts, "The Wikipedia Asia Month..." Still, "the" is not needed. Corinne (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

This may be a couple of months late, but as the one who came up with the banner text, the "the" is absolutely necessary. For one, the sentence construction sounds very stilted without the "the", although understandably this is highly dependent on context. Sure, "This month is Black History Month" sounds alright, but "This month is Wikipedia Asian Month" sounds awkward.

If we are to insist though on leaving out the "the", then we might as well call it "Asia Month", without the "Wikipedia" qualifier. However, I didn't come up with the name — the community (and specifically Addis) did when we came up with the project. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 16:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

THIS IS RASIST!!!!!

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why are you advertizinf a racest event >:( 18:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NinjaCheetos (talk • contribs) 18:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

‎@NinjaCheetos: The goal of Wikipedia Asian Month is to improve the coverage of Asian topics on all Wikipedias. The scope of Asian-related content is massive, and is largely under-represented - especially on the English Wikipedia. Not everything that has to do with race is racist. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I reverted this editors most recent comment under WP:DENY. They're clearly not here for a reasonable discussion. Mkdw^talk 05:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@NinjaCheetos: "Asian" is related to geography and nothing to do with race. Term "Asian" can be applied to any living or non-living thing related to Asia. As far as Asian Humans are concerned then they don't belong to any single race, there is huge diversity in race within Asia. An "Indian" call himself/herself as an "Asian" same way any "Arab" or "Chinese". So "Asian" is nothing to do with race. --Human3015^TALK  22:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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