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Gerald Ford FAR

Gerald Ford has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Curse of Tippecanoe article

I know that this article might not be one that you think particularly relevant to your topic, but it does deal explicitly and exclusively with Presidents of the United States. I was wondering whether this project would want to include it within the project's scope or not. Badbilltucker 02:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Religion parameter discussion

A discussion has begun here to establish consensus regarding the religion parameter. All editors are invited to join the discussion. This message has been cross-posted to other relevant talk pages. Thanks. --MZMcBride 04:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

First ladies - Your purview or should they go to the United States project?

Do and should the First Ladies' articles be within the purview of this WikiProject? They're currently orphaned in the vast see of regular biographies, and, if the fawning government-written Sarah Childress Polk is any indication, in dire need of attention. Also, pending an answer, I went ahead and set up an expert request for you folk on that Polk. MrZaius^talk 05:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• • bump Noone interested in a First Ladies working group? Admittedly, I'm not, but I haven't ever met a female government or poli sci teacher that didn't focus overmuch on the topic. Hard to believe there are no takers, or even parties able to clarify the points on Talk:Sarah Childress Polk. MrZaius^talk 17:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• Second bump This expert request is nearly 8 months old. Anyone have anything to add to the article in question? It still seems somewhat odd and, due to its primary source, overly fawning. It could definitely use a fresh set of eyes. MrZaius^talk 23:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

External links

Hello. I would appreciate feedback about the discussion taking place here. Thanks in advance. El_C 05:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Appleton links are useful: one user 24.94.139.230 has been adding links to the Appleton biographies. Appleton publishers was a main New York publisher of solid serious historical material in the 19th century--especially the Annual Cyclopedia (1860-1901) which I use all the time. Appleton published an excellent 6-volume compendium of biographies of famous Americans. They are factual and unbiased. It's hard to find outside big libraries so it's great they are online now and can be linked to Wiki articles. Stan Klos, an expert in historical documents, has done a good job in editing them and making them available. Rjensen 05:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Right, but we are getting spammed with them. Perhaps incorage the user adding the links to use citations? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

No it's not spam. Each link is appropriate to one and only one article. Rjensen 06:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Good JOB!

Hey! We're getting more US President Articles to be featured! Congratulations! –Eisenhowerofficial (e) 16:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC) 22:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)!

Flag icons

Just joined this project after learning about it on the FDR talk page (I've been contributing to that article for awhile). I'd like to see the Presidential Project template placed on the talk pages of other presidents, as well. It can always be updated later once the rating is completed.

Also, I'd like to propose a standardization of the use of flagicons in the Infoboxes. Some have none at all (such as Thomas Jefferson), others have the states of birth/death (such as John F. Kennedy), but no USA flag icon – which seems odd given the country of office.

I propose placing the US flag icon in the Infobox following "xx President of the United States", along with the state icons for birth/death. See Franklin D. Roosevelt for an example. Thought I should come here first for a consensus. If this is agreeable, I'd be happy to modify all the articles accordingly. JGHowes ^talk - 12:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

• It's been a month and no one has commented one way or the other, so I will go ahead with this proposal, OK? JGHowes ^talk - 14:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. The sad truth is that most WikiProjects fall derelict pretty quickly; see here. But yeah, sounds good.--HereToHelp 03:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Quick capitalization question

Should the word "administration" be capitalized or not?

• Reagan Administration
• Clinton Administration
• George W. Bush administration

--MZMcBride 19:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Peer review of Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

The article Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy touches on presidential, congressional and goverment agency wikipedia projects. In case you're interested, a peer review request has been posted to Wikipedia:Peer_review#Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy. -- Yellowdesk 14:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

List proposal

Can't really tell how active this project is, but wanted to bring this proposal to your attention. After the recent deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States Presidents by longevity I thought maybe it'd be good to take some preemptive steps to save this list and others. One of the things raised in the discussion was that there were just too many lists about U.S. presidents. I just spent some time learning how to use sortable lists and I came up with this: User:JayHenry/president. It's not completely finished yet, but I'm ready to see what people think -- it combines all of the information from List of United States Presidents by longevity, List of United States presidents by age at ascension to office, List of United States Presidents by time as former president, it also includes dates of birth and death, although it would not be a good replacement for those lists, as they contain other information (place, cause, etc.). The list is fully sortable! So what do people think? If we implement this list I'm pretty sure we can prevent president lists from showing up at WP:AFD. --JayHenry 21:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan

Hi there. First off, I'm interested in becoming a member, and would love to join this WikiProject. Second, I am probably the main editor of the Ronald Reagan article, and seeing on the list of all the Presidents on this project page, I disagree with what it says about Ronald Reagan's article. Right now, it states the following: "Needs shortening, especially in lead"--we (the editors) have had long discussions about the lead on Reagan's talk page, and we came to a concensus-the current one. It's slightly longer than some of the others, but close to that of Calvin Coolidge, a WP:FA. So I think that the "especially in lead" part should be removed. Third, the "needs shortening" should also be removed, because right now, Reagan's article is 104 KB, only one higher than that of Gerald Ford's, a FA.

I think that it should read instead, "Close to being nominated for FA", because as soon as all the sources are filled in, I plan on submitting it for a peer review, and then for FA status. Thoughts? Happyme22 00:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Mildred Gale

Hello,

as part of the Notability wikiproject, and I'm trying to assess the notability of the article on Mildred Gale, George Washington's grandmother; and I could use some expert advice. See the details on the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 13:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Bill Clinton

Hey, I have nominated Bill Clinton for a Wikipedia:Peer Review. I welcome any comments for improvement as I will give it an FAC run in the near future. Please go to Wikipedia:Peer review/Bill Clinton to make comments. BTW the article is presently at GA level on the page (but A on this project page). More over the Presidential project tag wasnt even on the Bill Clinton talk page so Ive added it. Best, LordHarris 12:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Templates and succession boxes

I was asked to help copyedit Harry S. Truman. Is there a preference for the use of succession boxes or templates or the use of both? My opinion would be to use the templates only, but I see that FDR uses both. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Also: should {{Lists of US Presidents and Vice Presidents}} be used in presidential articles? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford

The biography for Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Gerald Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his name has been nominated for deletion as being non-notable. You can make your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject American History Proposed

Comments and support would be appreciated here. Cheers, Corvus coronoides _talk 15:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

New WikiProject

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Users of this wikiproject are invited to join Wikipedia: WikiProject United States presidential elections--STX 04:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

famousamericans.net

The issue of these links has come up several times elsewhere since the March 2007 discussion here. We now have well over 1000 of these links added by several users reported by checkuser as "related". See this discussion on the Adminstrator's Noticeboard about this situation:

• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Virtualology and Stanley L. Klos -- boon to our historical articles or just a bain of spam? (permanent link)

--A. B. ^(talk) 00:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)