Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Michael Jackson/Archive 2

2008, the new era

OK, 2008 is turning out to be a great year for MJ here at wikipedia. The Thriller album, Thriller 25 album and Janet Jackson have all been promoted to GA. Additionally the quality of the MJ article has improved so much it nearly, but not quite, passed FA. We have a few things that need doing over the next few months.

• Get MJ to FA
  • DONE — Realist² (Speak) 23:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
• Get Thriller album to FA
• Get the Jackson 5 to GA
• Get Janet to FA

The Jackson 5 article is a priorty right now, it used to be featured and now is no longer even GA. We have to work on this one. Realist² ('Come Speak To Me') 18:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Singles

• Most (if not all) of the Michael Jackson singles' articles on here have the same issues: trivia sections, weasel words, and little or no references. Can't we do something about this? Anthony Rupert (talk) 05:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I have to agree, his singles are in a particularly bad shape, most people at the project pend their time in other areas, you should join the group and try to rally others to help. Unfortunately ive got so many other MJ and JJ articles to work on that I dont have the time. --— Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 16:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
• I have a problem with the way his singles' articles look too but I wonder who can make them look really good. The "Billie Jean" one indeed is one of the ones I would want definitely to be revised, lol.
  • Yes, but I think the albums are the priority, dont you? I do agree the the singles from the legendary Dangerous album are in poor shape. --— Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 16:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
• Speaking of singles, I have done a complete Do-Over of This Time Around (Michael Jackson song). I don't really have much info, but I did add the track listings of the promos, the cover of one of them, and the official remixes. if there is any additional info U would like 2 add. feel free 2 do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaJic (talk • contribs) 00:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Cheers, I added a project tag to the talk page. — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 00:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

UWC

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United World Chart - Incase you use this as a source in any of your articles, dont, it will only have to be removed at GA/FA. The source should no longer be used in any Michael Jackson article. I would actively remove it from any article you see providing this link, cheers. — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 18:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

King of Pop (album)

I would like to remind the group of a new article, if you can find any further reliable sources on this please do. — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 22:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

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I Made This

I made this if its useful for any banners .etc Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Cheers and nice to see you back. :-) — Realist² (Speak) 23:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, nice to see your useing my Thrillerbox Userbox :D Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

It's good, also the MJ article is featured now. — Realist² (Speak) 23:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful News :D, also shall I vectorize that image that I made? Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I have no idea what vectorize means, graphics ain't my department. You also need to re add your name to the project (I removed it sometime ago when you were indefinitely blocked, sorry) — Realist² (Speak) 23:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Aww how could you do such a thing :'( Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry, I never thought you would be back, but I'm glad you are. :-) — Realist² (Speak) 23:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I should be back for good now but tomorrow I get to find out if I have cancer or not, that could make a difference Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I did see, I hope everything turns out OK. Nice to have you back. — Realist² (Speak) 23:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad to be back. Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 23:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

'I Joined a day ago and Joined wikipedia 5 days ago I created the article Dangerous - The Remix Collection

' I created Three other articles which are:

'1. Monkey Business (Michael Jackson song) - deleted by wikipedia

'2. Threatened (song) - deleted by wikipedia

'3. why you wanna trip on me - deleted by wikipedia

MJfan9 (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Tagging Jackson 5 articles into the MJ project? (RESOLVED)

Hi guys, I think we should project tag Jackson 5 related articles into the MJ wikiproject. Even if they are a "low" priority, they still affected MJ as a musician. They also don't receive much maintenance so bringing them all into the project would help them. The Jackson 5 article is part of the MJ wikiproject so logically other J5 articles should as well. Template:The Jackson 5 provides a list of most of the articles relating to the Jackson5/Jackson's. We could even change the official title of the project? Thoughts? — Realist² 17:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

The discussion is closed as there is no clear consensus for such a dramatic change — Realist² 18:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Include Jackson 5 material (related to MJ only)

• Include it, as long as it involves Michael. Superior1 (talk) 19:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• Yep, like "Ben" and "I'll Be There". Pokemon Buffy Titan (talk) 06:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Include all Jackson 5 material

• Include it but keep the project name because we are mainly mj fans and the brothers are just a cut off of his life Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 16:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Include all Jackson 5 material and alter name of Wikiproject accordingly (will build consensus on name later)

• - Realist² 17:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• - BrothaTimothy - I guess you can count me in, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 17:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
• - Gaogier ^{How can I help?} 16:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC) My secondary choice.

Neutral

• I'm neutral on this one,--Manboobies (talk) 17:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Name change but support Jackson 5 material

• Include it, as long as it's relevant to the Wikiproject's subject. Additionally I think MJ is too dominate a figure in music and pop culture for the name to be replaced to a general over view of the Jackson family or Jackson 5. I'd prefer a seperate J5 wikiproject. UniversalBread (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Name change but support Jackson5 material (related to MJ only)

The discussion is closed as there is no clear consensus for such a dramatic change — Realist² 18:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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New album.

When dows Michaels new album comes? --ζαllэζαcк (talk) 23:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

No release date has been set. — Realist² 00:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

But is it sure that there will be an album? --ζαllэζαcк (talk) 02:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, a new album is certainly being worked on. There are numerous artists who claim they have been working with Jackson, they have no reason to lie. The question is, will this work ever be released as an album? That we do not yet know. — Realist² 20:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Okey, thanks. :) --ζαllэζαcк (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

This is not the place for such discussions! Wikipedia is not a forum. (The Elfoid (talk) 21:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC))

It's a Wikiproject, outside of mainspace, it's not such an issue. — Realist² 00:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I expect better policing from you in future Realist!(The Elfoid (talk) 02:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC))

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I would like to help

Hi, I am a big Michael Jackson fan and I would like to help out with the articles. Mclarenaustralia (talk) 12:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Cool, Just add your name to the active list and start editing. :) — R² 12:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Michael Jackson/Popular pages

I had Mr.Z-bot set up a Michael Jackson popular article page, a list of articles ordered by the number of views they receive each month. It's very interesting. I didn't know Randy was so popular... ;) Pyrrhus16 12:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow that is interesting. :) — R² 14:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I suspect mostly people confusing him with the other Randy Jackson... 212.74.97.195 (talk) 10:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

For anyone here who knows a bit about South Park...

...feel free to take my challenge and bring The Jeffersons (South Park) to Good Article status. If you are successful, you win a reward. See here. I've also left a message over at WP:SPK. Pyrrhus16 19:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

why? that episode insulted michael jackson and all the good tings he done--Mjlouisdbz14 (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Which is why it should have neutral article as well. Pyrrhus16 14:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

MJfan9: I try my best I know guite alot about South Park

'MJfan9 (talk) 16:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Heal the World Foundation

Hi all, I love your work about Jackson and his charity! really good job.

I'm new here and don't really know what I'm doing but want to help you get accurate information on the Jackson pages, particularly his charity. Heal the world foundation.

I'd like to get the HTWF logo from the www.healtheworldfoundation.org website, put on the heal the world foundation page. I would also like to have one of you fix any errors that I made to the page by putting the references on there for me. I'm not sure how to do that, but all the data I changed on the page came from the HTWF website and is accurate. how can we get the logo for his charity and the heal the world song on his charity site as well? any suggestions to me? Mjkid (talk) 09:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)mjkidMjkid (talk) 09:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Death

Any comprehensive information of such MJ's coverage? 202.190.153.69 (talk) 05:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson articles for GA/FA

I think we should make a real effort to get all of the article related to Michael Jackson to at least GA, and preferably to FA, in the near future. I will make a start on one of the article. Post a comment here or on the WP:WikiProject Michael Jackson page if you are willing to help. Look through the current articles and take as many as possible to Peer Review in their current state. We will then have some concrete issues to address. Thanks. 03md 07:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Strong suggestion (with my "never had a FAC fail" hat on, not my "WP:MJJ's pet admin" hat) – wait at least a week before nominating any article for any kind of review process. At the moment everything is either extremely unstable, or liable to change, as well as under scrutiny from a lot more people than usual, some of whom will be looking for any reason to oppose and many more of whom will want to help, but won't understand Wikipedia's rules and regulations. For the most unfortunate of reasons, more people are visiting this project than ever before, and a lot of them won't understand just how WP:NPOV and WP:RS work, and may get angry and frustrated at what they see as having their material "failed". The two people this project currently have who do have significant experience of writing and copyediting at FAC level – Realist2 and myself – are unlikely to be in a position to shepherd things through Wikipedia processes for a while. – iridescent 21:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Scream/Childhood is currently at peer review, I'm pushing for FAC. If you can help, it would be appreciated. — Please comment R² 14:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

relations

FYI, Austin Brown (singer) and DealZ have been prodded for deletion. 76.66.193.20 (talk) 08:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Stark Raving Dad

Hello, one of my goals is to take the Stark Raving Dad article to FAC and I was wondering if any project members would be able to help. Did Jackson (or even his family?) ever comment on the episode, perhaps in an interview or book? Other things: Is the episode mentioned in any biography about Jackson? Is there any source that mentions why Jackson used a pseudonym (one of the Simpsons producers stated that he wanted to play a joke on his family, but I've also read that there was some contractual reason)? I realize that members of this project are likely very busy right now, but if anyone could help me out, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

• I will try and help, when everything has calmed down. — Please comment R² 13:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The Jackson 5

Howdy y'all real excited to be working on the project. My major goal over the next few weeks is to rework the Jackson 5 article and hopefully return it to its former status as a featured article. As it stands its a very nicely written article. However, the main reason its was demoted is that the article is mostly devoid of citations, and unfortunately some of my preliminary research is giving me information that varries that written in the article, which makes me think portions could be untrue and need to be rewritten. It seems like the main place to start is with research, and seeing as there is a lack of online sources for much of this information il likely be hitting the books pretty soon. This looks like it might be a pretty big undertaking, and I would greatly appreciate assistance, especially in citing information. I know with the recent death there might not be time immediately, but I think this article is in the long term, of paramount importance to the project. Solid State Survivor (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

• I do agree, I've always promised myself to get it up to at least a GA. I have a few books that will be useful, again, we need to wait until things have calmed down, put that's just my opinion. — Please comment R² 13:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you there - its a little ambitious at this point in time. Honestly I feel like any trying to improve anything at the moment is futulie, as there is so much damage control to be done. The most important thing right now is to see the articles "through the storm" while trying maintaning their initial quality. Alot of people have strong opinions on this man and feel the need to present them here as fact. Considering the number of hits were getting (I think yesterday alone we had over one million) im pleasently suprised its not worse. Solid State Survivor (talk) 23:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Jackson's children

Could a few more people watchlist the names of Jackson's children, to ensure no more articles about them slip in? They're clearly not notable in their own right, and so, for now, the names should redirect to the article on their father or a related article. Obviously, if and when they do something to become notable, they may have their own article, but as they're only kids, I suspect we'll have to wait for a couple of years at least. Thanks. J Milburn (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

• Blanket Jackson
• Prince Michael Jackson II
• Paris Katherine Jackson
• Prince Michael Jackson I
• Paris Michael Katherine Jackson

Just did this. I think we should keep and especially close eye on the paris pages considring the events of the funeral. Also, consider adiing Prince Michael Jackson to your list. If creation of any of these pages becomes incessant consider protecting against creation. Solid State Survivor (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

• • Agree, they are not notable at all yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do become notable in few years time, charity work or something. — Please comment R² 13:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Children of Michael Jackson has presented itself as a concern. I feel that I am inadequate in rationalizing the deletion of the page as I am new and only now familiarizing myself with protocal. If someone could help me with this I would appreciate it. Solid State Survivor (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Certification of Vital Record

I have the certification of Vital Record´s Michael Jackson (death) in pdf image, and i would like to know, if i upload it here, what kind of Non-free use rationale and license would be necessary to use.

Thanks and best regards. Lightwarrior2 (talk) 21:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise, but I can see no possible situation in which there could be a valid NFCC rationale for it. We have reliable sources for his date of birth and date of death, and there's no artistic or literary significance to the document as a document. – iridescent 21:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

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Elvis Presley similarities

I've noticed that are quite a few similarities between Michael Jackson, other than they were almost as big in popularity as each other. For example they both died of a drug overdose and Elvis almost possibnly became MJ's father-in-law through this daughter. There are other similarities out there. I hope this discussion isn't forumy. Do people think this is worth a mention? Simply south (talk) 22:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

There are certainly a few publications documenting some similarities. I think it would definitely warrant a mention in the reaction section of the death article—just a paragraph stating that similarities were drawn by news organisations. Pyrrhus16 11:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, they both had homes whose name contained the word "land", they both had hit songs titled "Heartbreak Hotel", they both went to the White House to meet a California-born Republican president, and they both appeared in a movie with Gene LeBell. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

unreleased material and songs

Hello my friends!!

Important to add this in the article... or as a reference...(?!?) What do you think..?!

A Place With No Name (Unreleased 2009)

Best regards Lightwarrior2 (talk) 00:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

the unrealesed songs see:

• A Place With No Name
• Eaten alive

Sales figures

There was a recent request (edit semi-prot) to change the sales figures in List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Michael Jackson (again) to 750m. The edits were reverted, because at least one user contests the authenticity of the figure.

I have therefore started a discussion, in the hope of reaching a consensus on the issue.

I would very much welcome input from anyone - preferably brief, policy-based reasoning, of course.

Talk:List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Michael Jackson (again)

Many thanks,  Chzz  ►  21:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

This Place Hotel

The article This Place Hotel says that the song title was changed from "Heartbreak Hotel" to avoid confusion with the Elvis Presley song of the same title. However, it's not clear when the title was changed. The song is listed in The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits under the title "Heartbreak Hotel" only, with no mention of any name change. So, apparently, it was still called by its original title when it was released as a single. If indeed the title was changed for later releases, we might want to keep the article under the title This Place Hotel to avoid having to use a qualifier like Heartbreak Hotel (Jacksons song), but the article needs to be clarified. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is YouTube allowed

Should YouTube videos from MJ official channel be used as links.

Dwanyewest (talk) 03:55, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

no.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 19:18, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

New Article

Requesting help and thoughts on a new page I'm making - if its notable and should be made. 

[[2]]

JTBX (talk) 19:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Locking current articles until hype as gone away

So there are at least three articles that have been suffering daily repeated vandalism for almost 2 weeks. This Is It (Michael Jackson song), This Is It (Michael Jackson album) and Invincible (Michael Jackson album) all have either factually wrong content being added, or else mindless removal or data, so that what's left doesn't even make sense. The ony way around this seems to be complete protection of these articles until the general public loses interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.22.48 (talk) 21:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

'MJfan9: I'll have to check those articles but if your Right then yes it should be protected. but before it's protected it need's the information to be put Right

'MJfan9 (talk) 16:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

It's been going on for months, and seems to have gotten worse this week with Invincible getting into the end of decade discussions. Every MJ album article opens with "the 7th album" or whatever, except for that one... And for some reason, it seems to be fashionable to eradicate systematically every mention of his death... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.135.212 (talk) 19:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Release date of Thriller

There's been an ongoing simmering conflict on the Thriller song article about what year it was released as a single. It was listed as 1984, now it's 1982. Can someone definitely tell us when Thriller was released as a single? hbdragon88 (talk) 22:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

'MJfan9: 1983

'MJfan9 (talk) 16:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

US Release: January 1984. UK Release: November 1983. Music Video Release: December 2, 1983. Clokverkorange (talk) 14:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

List of members

- please put your name Here in alaphapetical order if your a member of the wikiproject Michael Jackson-- MJfan9 (talk) 22:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

• Pyrrhus16
• MJfan9
• hbdragon88

Speed Demon (Song)

Can someone add more appropiate information on the Song Speed Demon

'anyway I moved Speed Demon (Michael Jackson) to: Speed Demon (Song) because the title wasn't informative and didn't make sense

'Thankyou

MJfan9 (talk) 18:19, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

HIStory/ghosts

Suggested split. See Talk:HIStory/Ghosts#Split?. Simply south (talk) 15:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Michael Jackson Albums Discography page

There is a conflict in this page with me and Cubfan789. In these page there are some small discussions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Michael_Jackson_albums_discography#Page_Style

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cubfan789#MJ_Albums

The version that i support is this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Jackson_albums_discography&oldid=336617182 ), the version that he support is this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson_albums_discography ) Simone Jackson (talk) 19:36, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Simon who is the one trying to update/change it!!....is dont see much of a differance ...is one a newer version or just a new format trying to be implemented here ??..Buzzzsherman (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

? SJ (talk) 23:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

--> http://translate.google.com/# --> che è il faticoso uno per cambiare il layout ... ed è il nuovo layout come qualsiasi altri layout su discografie ... perché è qualcuno che cerca di cambiarla? Buzzzsherman (talk) 18:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The new layout can't include all certifications, the old layout yes, but i understand the split of cubfan because with the old layout, the table began very big for every album. For this reason i suggested a split in two pages, one for the peak chart positions and one for the certifications and sales (with the old layout without chart positions that's only layout that can include all certifications and sales) with main page that presents the two pages and the redirects. Simone Jackson (talk) 22:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

New Portal

{{Portal|Michael Jackson}} I noticed your Portal got deleted due to lack of content ...Well i have made you a new one Portal:Michael Jackson  !!! We should talk about the colors you guys would like to see in the portal,,if what is there now is not ok...There is 3 selection made up of FA or GA articles only!!!
Template = {{Portal|Michael Jackson|Namexhh01.png}}

have fun ..hope your project gets some more members..Buzzzsherman (talk) 21:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

FYI on a locked page

I have gotten the article Michael Jackson albums discography page lock until the edit war is over! This is done neutrally without endorsing any one editors version..It has been placed so that a civil conversation can take place..As of now the page is locked until January 23, 2010 ...if this occurs again after this date the lock will be extended..See here for more info...Buzzzsherman (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request for comment on Biographies of living people

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
2. opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced BLP articles if they are not sourced, so your project may want to source these articles as soon as possible. See the next, message, which may help.

Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people

List of cleanup articles for your project

If you don't already have this and are interested in creating a list of articles which need cleanup for your wikiproject see: Cleanup listings A list of examples is here

Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation pages"

If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles that your project covers, to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip

Watchlisting all unreferenced articles

If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip

Ikip 05:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

In the section "This Is It (Michael Jackson Concert)" the film tie-in is mentioned, but the box office takes are omitted. If other sales figures are considered notable, this figure should be considered equally notable and allowed to be added.

For reference see http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=michaeljacksonthisisit.htm.

Domestic (US) Take: $72,091,016 International Take: $180,341,232

Time in Release - 37 days

Also notable - simultaneously the highest grossing documentary and highest grossing concert film of all time. number one at the box office it's opening weekend - 5th highest Halloween opening ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clokverkorange (talk • contribs) 14:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Can any project members review current GA noms.

Hi, I'm not a member of WikiProject Michael Jackson, but I've been trying to bring some articles to GA status, but since the review list is filled with nominees, I was wondering if anyone from this Wikiproject could GA review the nominees.

Here are the articles I feel confident are GA material and are current nominees:

• Thriller (song)
• This Is It (Michael Jackson song) (I think this article might even be FA worthy)
• This Is It (Michael Jackson album)
• Do the Bartman
• Speed Demon (Song)

Sorry if I'm bothering any of you with this question/request but I would really like to see these articles become GA's. Thanks, Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 07:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I will ask some other music projects WHO HAVE active reviewers to take a look....Buzzzsherman (talk) 21:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll second Crystal's comments. As a frequent reviewer at GAN, we're bursting at the seams on music articles. If you haven't reviewed an article before, by all means give it a shot, I'll let you know if it's good. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Vote in progress

Resolved

Hi guys just to let you know we are tying to end an edit dispute here-> Talk:Michael Jackson albums discography#Page Style.....Please leave a comment Talk:Michael Jackson albums discography#Splitting The Page here thanks for your help!..Buzzzsherman (talk) 08:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2

I don't understand why this game keeps getting removed from the template and I don't see how this game does not fall under the category of this project. Jackson did have some involvement with the game's development as he provided the motion capture and was digitally photographed for the game. Sarujo (talk) 00:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Since it been a year with no discussion, that usually means that everybody has no objects with my rationale. So I will re-add the work project template. If there is any disagreement, then it needs to be discussed, rather than what appears to be sweeping deputes under the rug and pretending they're not there. Sarujo (talk) 00:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Peer review for Stark Raving Dad

I've currently opened a peer review for Stark Raving Dad (a current GA). I think the article meets the FA criteria and I'm thinking about nominating it as a FA candidate. It would be helpful if other editors could comment on the article and/or offer suggestions, etc. Thanks. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 11:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Billie Jean black sequin jacket

I recently removed the Billie Jean black sequin jacket article, in order to improve its content and wait for User:Pyrrhus16 to finish the Michael Jackson Fashion article. I appreciate all the help and ask for further feedback and assistance on the notability and content of the topic.User:DinhoGauch10/Billie Jean black sequin jacket DinhoGauch10 (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

AFD for article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billie Jean black sequin jacketDinhoGauch10 (talk) 22:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Michael Jackson articles at WP:GAN

Hi, there are a number of articles which have been nominated at WP:GAN by User:Crystal Clear x3

Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough, Another Day (Michael Jackson song), Speed Demon (song), HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I, Leave Me Alone, Dangerous (Michael Jackson song), Remember the Time, Invincible (Michael Jackson album), Michael Jackson: The Stripped Mixes, Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', The Way You Make Me Feel, Is It Scary, Dirty Diana, Death of Michael Jackson, Bad (Michael Jackson song), You Rock My World, Ben (album), The Only Exception

I reviewed and passed Tabloid Junkie yesterday, but only after I undertook a fairly comprehensive copy-edit. Articles should be in good shape before they are nominated. Might I politely suggest that this project could help get the remainder of the nominations into good shape. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 10:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

hi guys!!!

Can i get you guys to add Portal:The Jackson Family to your watch list pls!!!Moxy (talk) 21:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Answer to a question?

I was recently asked if there was an easy way to add all the MJ pages to a personal watch-list!...there is now real need to to this ...here are the links..just book mark them Changes Mazi related to "Michael Jackson articles" and Changes related to "Jackson family articles" ..This is done(generated) by simply going to the Category of interest and clicking on the "Related changes" link in the toolbox on the left (if you have this option)..clicking on "Show changes to pages linked to the given page instead" will show even more!!.... hope this helps just figured to answer here so all can do it !! ..Moxy (talk) 02:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello all...i have removed the option to edit the boxs in the portal...as ever time I look some kid has messed it up.....So for us here we can still edit it at will-- pages all here -->"Portal:Michael Jackson pages" on Wikipedia Ps i did this to the Jackson family portal too Jackson family portal pages here!!....I will set the portal up soon to let people add things ... It will function like this portal --->Portal:Music of Canada so three will be an Suggest and Archive option!!! Moxy (talk) 18:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Childhood

Shouldn't "Childhood (song)" have its own article? Why is it relegated only as a part of a two-sided single with "Scream", as if being a part of this single is all that makes it notable? Is the song not notable in its own right? Don't lesser Michael Jackson songs have their own article? It can be discussed at Talk:Scream/Childhood#Split the songs. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 08:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Michael Jackson articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Michael Jackson articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Ending the Michael Jackson edit War

Unfortunately the current edit war over the album type is rather sad but it is most certainly intolerable. Please visit Talk:Michael (album)#End the Edit War - Studio vs Compilation and part-take in the attempt to find a final resolution. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 18:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal

I have nominated List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Rubiscous (talk) 17:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Big Changes

We have an editor that is editing most of the MJ articles - All done in good faith but not within our polocies. Pls watch over all the articles for "Tabloid" type addition like what was removed here. We need adults to watch over theses types of edits.Moxy (talk) 16:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Comments needed at Michael Jackson's health and appearance article

Note: transposed here by Moxy (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2012 (UTC) Are any of you willing to weigh in on the Talk:Michael Jackson's health and appearance#Removal of material based on objection to speculation and offensiveness and/or gruesome details discussion?

Also, regarding this article (Michael Jackson), this citation-needed tag should be reverted; this information is already referenced lower in the article, and, per WP:LEAD, what is already referenced lower in the article does not have to be referenced in the lead of the article. 2001:DA8:201:1067:250:56FF:FEB5:826A (talk) 17:22, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

GAR

Speed Demon (song), an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article.--Tomcat (7) 18:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I Created Some (messy/incomplete/visually incorrect) Graphics

Well... as some, such as reybruno know, I contributed [[[File:Namexhh01.png]]] and [[[File:PhotoThriler47.png]]] a while back. I have now just created two new images. Unfortunately regarding detail; they are inaccurate right now as I had no photos of MJ whilst I was creating them, and I haven't quite neatened them up yet ether.
I will update these to SVG vector images of a far higher quality when I have some spare time, maybe even color, Though feel free to use them at will right now.
File:MJ We Are The World Illustration.png(Image 2 removed due to SVG version)

Please don't be rude.: '(, they are incomplete right now.

Simon ^{How can I help?} 01:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay here is a simple vector version, still incomplete but I may not get around to furthering completion of these as demand seems low, again I didn't use any photos for reference, I enjoy challenging myself, so it will not be precise. Simon ^{How can I help?} 12:21, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:16, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Fix this?

I need to fix this. Simon ^{How can I help?} 13:16, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Nice work! Don't stop till you get enough!
Simon ^{How can I help?} 17:40, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Michael Jackson videography

I have listed this article as a FLC here; Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Michael Jackson videography/archive2. Please give your opinion on this. Thanks. Chase (talk) 15:57, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Proposed split of HIStory/Ghosts

This article about Jackson's 1997 double A-side single has been proposed to be split into two separate articles, one for each song. Interested editors may discuss here. Chase (talk | contributions) 23:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Michael Jackson/Archive 2/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Michael Jackson.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

• The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
• The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
• The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Michael Jackson, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:15, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:48, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Peer Review

I've currently opened a peer review for Michael Jackson singles discography.I think the article meets the FL criteria and I'm thinking about nominating it as a FL candidate. It would be helpful if other editors could comment on the article and/or offer suggestions, etc. Thanks. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 05:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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