Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Good article review
Similar pages on other WikiProjects?
editIf anyone is aware of a similar page to this on other WikiProjects, please share. If there are more pages like this they should be categorized together so that people who sort GA nominations can appropriately post them in forums where they can get good review. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:49, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
For Military history I think they just let anyone from the wider Wikipedia community do the GA review, but they are strict in themselves about giving the "A" ranking! See Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review. I wonder why they did this, and whether we should follow their precedent of having WikiProject control over the A ranking but defer broader community recognition through GA review to the wider Wikipedia community. I wonder if an "A" ranking is expected of military articles getting a GA. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:53, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure about other wikiprojects. See [1] where Looie496 proposes "special WPMED criteria" for class A. Imo, it is more desirable to tweak the GA criteria for biomedical articles, since we already have GA articles but virtually no class A (I think). If WikiProject Military history have made specific class A criteria, I don't see much of a problem with WPMED tweaking the GA criteria.
- On the other hand, if we do not want to make any changes to the GA criteria, this page is rather redundant as it duplicates info available in a few other centralized places. Lesion (talk) 11:15, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Class A is different from the other classes. Each of the others has a review process that is essentially the same for all types of articles, but class A is specifically intended to be something that each WikiProject can use in whatever way seems suitable to it. Most WikiProjects don't use class A -- their highest internal class is B, and for higher classifications they go outside the project to GA or FA. That's currently how it goes for WPMED. When an A class does exist, it is generally considered on more or less the same level as FA. Looie496 (talk) 13:48, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting, thanks for explaining that. I thought all classes were standardized across all wikipedia articles. Perhaps if this page is kept, it might be better to convert it to class-A criteria? Imo, this should be all the things a GA is, plus some regard to MEDRS and MEDMOS. This is not much different from how many GA reviews on medical articles are carried out currently... they tend to ask for more than the basic GA criteria. Lesion (talk) 21:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- I also think that having an A rank might be best. This WikiProject can definitely control that, this WikiProject can recruit people to check A-rank criteria, and then the larger Wikipedia community - even people outside of medicine - would probably feel a lot more comfortable doing GA reviews on a medical article if they do not have to worry so much on medical issues and could focus on doing the parts of a GA check which do not require subject matter expertise. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting, thanks for explaining that. I thought all classes were standardized across all wikipedia articles. Perhaps if this page is kept, it might be better to convert it to class-A criteria? Imo, this should be all the things a GA is, plus some regard to MEDRS and MEDMOS. This is not much different from how many GA reviews on medical articles are carried out currently... they tend to ask for more than the basic GA criteria. Lesion (talk) 21:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Class A is different from the other classes. Each of the others has a review process that is essentially the same for all types of articles, but class A is specifically intended to be something that each WikiProject can use in whatever way seems suitable to it. Most WikiProjects don't use class A -- their highest internal class is B, and for higher classifications they go outside the project to GA or FA. That's currently how it goes for WPMED. When an A class does exist, it is generally considered on more or less the same level as FA. Looie496 (talk) 13:48, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Establish A rank?
editIt seems that the precedent is that WikiProjects control rank up to A, and that the larger Wikipedia community controls review for GA and FA. It seems more natural to follow the precedent set by WP:Military History and develop guidelines for an A rank rather than petition for a reform of the existing structure and try to impose something new on GA ratings. I may be missing some information and am not sure about this.
I would expect anything which achieves an A rank here could then be submitted to a GA review. It would be nice to know about both the A rank and the GA rank if an article had both and if they were unrelated. What do others think? Should we get advice from the Military History people? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC)