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WP India template params

Shouldn't they be either "{{WP India|railways=yes|railways-importance=}}" or "{{WP India|railway=yes|railway-importance=}}" rather than "{{WP India|railway=yes|railways-importance=}}"?--GDibyendu (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

The parameter is not yet created. Requested Ganeshk to add them to{{WP India}} tempate. It will be only "|railways=yes|railways-importance="-- Tinu Cherian - 11:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

So what work do we have here?

Hello guys,

Just added my name to the project. Can someone update me on what work is to be done and what (if any) discussions have taken place? The Silent Contributor (talk) 07:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Create and populate articles for Category: Rajdhani Trains , Category: Shatabdi Trains, Category: Garib Rath Trains etc and probably use Template:Railway line legend for major routes initially. Category:Railway accidents in India is another interesting place. Srikanth (Logic) 13:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Notability of articles in Category:Named passenger trains of India

A number of articles in this category are two-sentence unsourced stubs about obscure trains which do not seem to fit WP's general notability guidelines. While I understand that trains like the Palace on Wheels or the Bhopal Shatabdi Express, as well as generic classes of trains, such as Rajdhani Express or Duronto Express, are notable, I seriously doubt whether examples like these - 1, 2, 3 deserve a place here. Should these be tagged and nominated for deletion? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 05:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Just my thoughts, I feel each named train is notable just like people who say each village is notable.I feel the article needs rework, but my vote would be a weak keep though.We could add references, put the train route template, add quite a good amount of value to them. Just takes time. Srikanth (Logic) 14:35, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

• Too many stubs which are one liners, that too without any references to prove notability, I believe all stubs should redirected to the List of named passenger trains of India and text merged, before they have something substantial, merging would anyway be done in due course, by various admins themselves. Someone from this project must volunteer before it goes overboard! --Ekabhishek^talk 13:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

• There are some trains which do not have a name(Eg: Bhopal express,Bangalore express)but they have been included in the cateogory of Named passenger trains of India. Can another cateogory namely other express/mails of India be created and include these in that. Let onyl trains having names like lal bagh,brindavan etc be included under the current head.

Ss87 (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)SiddharthSs87 (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

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cleanup listing

I've had to remove {{User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription|wgcat=WikiProject Railways in India articles}} as the working group does not appear to have its own category. Rd232 ^talk 16:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Some problems with sourcing & notability of rail services in India

Hi all,
I've found some possible problems with a large number of articles on train services in India. Some could be fixable, but many are so short on notability/sources that deletion may be the best option. There's a a thread over at WikiProject Trains' talkpage; suggestions from this community would be very welcome. What do you think is the best way to deal with, say, many of the articles in Category:Superfast trains? bobrayner (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Your template

Your template seems to make subsequent posts grey. Is there a bracket that needs closing or something? Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Anna, that is fixed now --naveenpf (talk) 01:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Well done. Thank you kindly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done

completed assessment of Category:Unknown-importance Indian railways articles

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Page move discussion

There is a page move discussion at Talk:Jammu–Poonch railway kindly participate and give your opinion.--DBigXray 10:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Dashed, cases, titles, and such

Some of you may have noticed that I've been going around trying to move things closer the to recommendations of WP:CAPS, MOS:CAPS, MOS:DASH, and such. Comments? Help? Dicklyon (talk) 00:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Commons:WikiProject India

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I started a WikiProject India on Commons.

Please come and participate! Yann (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Station naming guidelines

I noticed this discussion rather late which is of importance Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Train_stations_.26_subway_stations_and_precision. Simply south...... cooking letters for just 7 years 15:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Delhi Cantonment railway station

I started Delhi Cantonment railway station, but the article is just a stub and needs to be expanded. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Adding about new unannounced trains

With reference to the edits at Thoothukudi railway station and Aruppukkottai railway station, i was removing some contents like "Demand for new trains, Extension of trains, etc.," on the basis of WP:NOTTIMETABLE, WP:NOTGUIDE and WP:CRYSTAL. These kind of information is present in quite a lot of articles related to transport of India, since almost everycity/town has its own demand of introduction of new trains or construction of new lines, these are either speculative and unconfirmed. Those demands may or may not happen or even keep lingering for a indefinite period of time. But still the edits were happening either by reversion or adding afresh. Hence a concrete decision can be made on adding such informations in future. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 10:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Resources for Articles for Indian Railways

Most articles regarding Indian Railways quotes http://indiarailinfo.com/; http://erail.in/ and http://www.irfca.org as source. Though by far it may be accepted for map or creating route diagrams, but distance between any two railway stations or a length of a railway line largely differs with the Official website. Also the website is mostly with user generated content. So is the case of Indian Railways Fan Club (Indian Railways Fan Club), most of the web pages are have contents user-generated and casting doubts over verifiability and reliability, since they are neither accurate (to the most) nor updated. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 02:38, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Broad gauge map of Indian railways with double or more line

I was looking for a broad gauge map of Indian railways depicting only double or more lines. I could not find such a map on net, the map on net lists all kind of lines as well as single and double or more tracks but I want to filter out single lines or non-broad gauge lines from the map. I want to check what all heavy traffic rail lines of Indian railways have at least double tracks. Thanks. IndianGeneralist 15:03, 28 April 2014 (UTC).

Need help

Hi, I need to place

in Category:Rail transport in India . Can anyone help me ? --naveenpf (talk) 03:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Shaane Khan (talk) 12:39, 19 June 2014 (UTC) what kind of help do you need ?

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Kanpur Bridge Left Bank railway station

Kanpur Bridge Left Bank railway station has been nominated for deletion, but as I've only just tagged it for this project it may not show up in automated lists, hence this note. Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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Namings

can we have a standard for the articles names in the Zones of Indian Railways ? eg : XXX Zone (India) --naveenpf (talk) 16:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the standard should preferably be XXX Railway Zone (India). Also, do we need a similar standard for divisions, since they are likely to be confused with administrative divisions? Perhaps XXX Division (Indian Railways) or some such? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I do agree.. Let us go with XXX Railway Zone (India) and XXX Division (Indian Railways) ..ya let us start some work as WP:INRI--naveenpf (talk) 03:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Railway Zones  Done--naveenpf (talk) 15:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Why disambiguate where it is not necessary? --Joshua Issac (talk) 14:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

While writing train numbers, we can mention which division the train belongs too. this will help people to know whom to approach for complaints

For example 11013 LTT-CBE Express belongs to CR, 22629 DR-TEN Belongs to SR, etc. This can be used for sorting trains easily.

Arjungopal31 (talk) 17:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Loco Sheds

Hi all, There seems to be a serious dearth of information on locomotive sheds in India on Wikipedia It would be great if we could add details of all existing loco sheds in India to Wikipedia, both diesel and electric. I have created a page for the Ernakulam Diesel Loco Shed to start with.

However, I would also like to add an infobox on all the loco sheds with along with standard details, details on the livery of the locos owned by the shed in a separate section. I tried my hand at creating one, but could not make head or tail of the technicalities as I am very new to this entire thing. Could anyone here guide me on how to create infoboxes?

Vinodpv27 (talk) 05:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Where is Dadri railway station?

In the vain hope that someone comes to this page, I will bring to notice that Dadri railway station has conflicting locations. Someone may fix this. extra999 (talk) 19:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Done and dusted. Corrected, and added some extra information as well. Vinodpv27 (talk) 05:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Criteria for notability in rail accidents

Hi all, The article List of Indian rail accidents needs some improvement. There is a thread in its talk page, but there has been a lack of editors for a concensus. The main issue is the criteria for a train accident to be called notable on the list. It would be great if editors pitch in with their opinions. Vignyana^talk 08:34, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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South Coast Railway zone

South Coast Railway zone was announced officially, but continue to function as South Central Railway zone till date. The page and its railway articles got zone name changed. The references still say south central. Also, there is info shifted from South Central Railway zone, but all those ref only say SCR. What should be done?--Vin09 (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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merger proposal

please give your opinion regarding the merger of Train 19 into Train 18 here: Talk:Vande Bharat Express#Merger proposal. ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

added merger discussion to to-do list for visibility Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 10:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

WAG-12 issue.

Hallo Everyone I am discussing about the data of total wag-12 commissioned by IR. A fellow wikipedian name Rohan paul 999 (talk) is changing the data of total locomotives commissioned by IR without giving any proper source or reference and I have once previously reverted his unsourced data but he has put it back again today and also he has written in my talk page that I shouldn't revert it without proper sourced data. So, I am asking everyone to give their opinion that should I revert his unsourced data or not.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 14:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Yea. It's advisable that you revert his edits and alert him on his talk page that un-sourced content will be removed. Especially statistics like numbers built. Searching through the web, I didn't find any sources stating how many of them have been manufactured, although if we go by the road number, one might say that around 25 have been rolled out. However, that will be classified as original research which hold no value on Wikipedia. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 18:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan:Yes bro you are correct I have also search many times in the web that exactly how many wag12 locomotives manufactured till now but I too haven't found any data. I have reverted his unsourced data once a few days ago and after I see that today he has put that data back again I have immediately warned him in his talk page after he has instructed me that not to change the data without proper Source in my talk page. So, I am telling you that this time if you revert his unsourced data and warned him about it then it will be better. After you revert that I will keep an eye on it that if he is putting that data back again or not. Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Alright, but whatever happens, don't break the 3 revert rule. Even if you are objectively right. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan:Yes I know that no problem go ahead. Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 2 June 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:

Indian Railways WCAM class → Indian locomotive series WCAM

Indian Railways WAG class → Indian locomotive series WAG

(non-admin closure) Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 10:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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• Indian Railways WAG class → Electric locomotives of Indian Railways or AC electric locomotives of Indian Railways
• Indian Railways WCAM class → Electric locomotives of Indian Railways

– no need for every series like WAP, WAG to have its own article since information on those pages is just shortened versions of the info on the loco class article. Having all electrics in one place and diesels in one will ensure that new learners can get info from few pages instead of having to scurry multiple pages. Additional info about a specific class can always be found at the dedicated article page for the loco. I would appreciate your views below. Tagging editors: User:Suvadeep Saha56, User:Vatsmaxed, User:ArnabSaha, User:Hdmanohar, User:Naveenpf, User:Jaywardhan009 -- Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 10:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose: separate pages are better. expansion of the current pages is a better idea, rather than merging/moving. ❯❯❯ S A H A 12:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@ArnabSaha: How about moving the Indian Railways WAG class to AC Electric goods locomotives of India or Electric goods locomotives of India, for complying with WP:COMMONNAME? Similarly, Indian Railways WCAM class may be moved to Dual Electric Mixed locomotives of India? --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 12:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, wont this make the names more complex for readers? ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha It is still better than WCAM or WAG, no? I mean WCAM would not make any sense for me if it's the first time I am looking at Indian locos. But now I feel instead of this drastic name change, a small, factually correct move to 'series' from 'class' would be better. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 07:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, keep both. Electric goods locomotives of India will be the main article, which will work as a summary. under this, Indian Railways WAG class and Indian Railways WCAM class etc. articles will act as sub-articles, with detailed info. ❯❯❯ S A H A 08:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Should we have Electric goods locomotives of India and Electric passenger locomotives of India separate or merge them as Electric locomotives of India/Electric locomotives of Indian Railways? Whatever be the case, we do need a new article (or two) since the Locomotives of India article is way too cluttered. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 08:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, Locomotives of India this, can be splitter, but WP:SIZESPLIT is generally done on > 60kB / 60,000 characters. but this article is 55kB / 9,735 chars. And, if splitted, then I will go with Electric locomotives of Indian Railways. ❯❯❯ S A H A 08:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

• I am 100% agree with arnab saha that separate or dedicated articles of every locomotives should be there. Those are shouldn't be merged and put it into series. Individual locomotive articles should elaborated with properly sourced informations. Apart from few series like ndm, zdm and wcp series which should be considered to be put into series form ,rest of the locomotive series are not needed. Instead linking those separate or dedicated locomotive articles with locomotives of India article then any one can easily find the details of every individual locomotives by just clicking on the name of the locomotives in that article.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 17:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Hey, @Suvadeep Saha56: I too am not saying that we need to merge the individual articles about each locomotive. They should saty, indeed. I was talking about merging the articles that list these series like WCAM and WAG, into one article like Electric locomotives of Indian Railways or maybe, as per discussion here, change name to something similar or more suitable. -- Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

• @Field Marshal Aryan: Look Aryan in my opinion locomotive series articles are not needed because if you see the locomotives of India article there is a list of every locomotives that Indian Railway used till now and if you link that list with the dedicated locomotive articles then anyone can easily find the individual loco details. But if you think that combining the loco series articles and make it into one will be better then its upto you. If you think that merging those series articles and make it into one is a good idea then you can do that from my point of view but without disturbing the individual loco articles.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 07:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support: The Locomotives of India article is enough for all locomotives. Individual locomotive class have/can have their own article, for eg. Indian locomotive class WAP-7. So support merging into Locomotives of India. If consensus doesn't arise, in case of merge, then rename could be done as per standard in Category:Electric locomotives of India. So Indian Railways WAG class should be renamed to Indian locomotive class WAG, Indian Railways WCAM class to Indian locomotive class WCAM and so on. -- Vatsmaxed (signature added later by Field Marshal Aryan)

@Vatsmaxed:I say it should be Indian locomotive series WCAM because:

1. We are already using 'Indian locomotive class xyz' for specific locomotives and
2. WCAM, WAG etc isn't a class, it's a series of classes.

--Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 13:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan: Agreed. Also thanks for adding signature.:) Vatsmaxed (talk) 05:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome, mate! -- Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Update: Hdmanohar has created List of electric locomotives of India which can be a good workaround to this problem though it would have been better had if he would have waited till consensus was reached here :) --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 19:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan: I actually didn't check the ongoing discussion. I think a Single article for the Electric locos is more than enough.--Hdmanohar (talk) 03:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

It's alright, mate. Just make sure that next time you create an article you check if there is a discussion going on about it. Thanks for your contribs. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay so I will move the Indian locomotive class WCAM and similar articles to Indian locomotive series WCAM. If anyone has objections, do let me know. I will probably move them by Tuesday IST. Also we now have the List of electric locomotives of India article now. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Hdmanohar,Field Marshal Aryan, part outside this discussion, as we have List of electric locomotives of India and List of diesel locomotives of India now, should we have List of steam locomotives of India too? Vatsmaxed (talk) 07:02, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Vatsmaxed Yes sir. It only makes sense that we maintain consistency. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 07:26, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

fb page

what about making a fb page for the wikiproject? ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:35, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Agree Good idea. Although I don't use facebook. I can make one for instagram though. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 08:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha, if you have made the fb page, do post the link here! thanks, --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, sure. ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, naming it WikiProject Indian Railways. and what will be the profile pic and cover pic? also, need admins. link ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha You can choose from the one on our main page or maybe even this. Or anyone of your liking. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 11:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, this is good... I will use this. ❯❯❯ S A H A 11:19, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Welp, for some unknown reason they suspended my account. Guess ill have to do just with an IG account. --Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, oh. add the fb link in the project page ❯❯❯ S A H A 14:45, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha I suggest that you add it yourself, because with the current format of the page, I wasn't able to find a suitable place to place the external link. Regards, ⍟ Field Marshal Aryan ⍟ 05:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, done ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha I have moved the fb and instagram inks to the members page as 5 buttons on the main page looked daunting. Also since they are not vital to the maintenance of the project, I didin't feel like keeping them on the main page. I hope you won't mind. Regard, ⍟ Field Marshal Aryan ⍟ 10:31, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, ok, np... ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

WDG-4G nominated for GA

This is a gentle notice for everyone that Indian locomotive class WDG-4G has been GA nominated. I hope it goes through. If someone has not contributed significantly to that article they may wish to start the review at its talk page. Thanks, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 19:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Need for Technical specifications of WAG-9

Hey guys, I am currently trying to improve the WAG-9 class to GA status. While going through the page, I noticed that the Technical specifications section is too long. Since most of importance tech specs are in the infobox, Should we remove the section--Area 51 Machan (talk) 12:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Area 51 Machan, I love that we all are trying to make GA articles because our project badly needs them. Indian Railways was a FA but then got demoted, the only GAs we have are Delhi Metro, Fairy Queen and WDG4G. Coming back to your question, yea the tabled part is too big: that info can be kept in the infobox while the Technical section must contain prose mostly. Good luck with your endeavor. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 13:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, it's tough to maintain FA status of Indian Railways. Even GA is tough for that. ❯❯❯   S A H A 15:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha, Yea. It contains a lot of WP:CITELEAD which is an immediate no-no. I imagine, one day, when I have the time, I would get back to cleaning it up. Until then CVU and a little bit of GA seems alright :-) Field Marshal (talk) 18:15, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, there are multiple unsourced paras also. it immediately needs a copyedit. if you have goce slots, then I will say to request for that. after that, in the mean time, we can improve it. ❯❯❯   S A H A 18:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

meeting

wikiproject india meeting never gonna happen. we can do a wikiproject ir meeting. pinging Field Marshal Aryan ❯❯❯   S A H A 13:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha, Hey I didn't receive your ping because you added the ping after you singed it. Regarding the meet, I am willing to do a chat based meet only. This community (WP:IRW) is too small for anything like that. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 18:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Field Marshal Aryan, ok then no problem. but where to do? WP:Discord. ❯❯❯   S A H A 18:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

ArnabSaha, Sure. Field Marshal (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

@Area 51 Machan, Suvadeep Saha56, SHISHIR DUA, Feroze Ahmad 2, ImSonyR9, 123sarangi, and Jazze7: pinging for more opinion. ❯❯❯   S A H A 05:37, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Decent is ur suggestion, I'd, indubitably, be available for chat based meetings.

Regards SHISHIR DUA (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

SHISHIR DUA, thanks. we will try to conduct it asap ❯❯❯   S A H A 16:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

I can also make myself available for a meeting. Please let me know. ><font color="blue" face="Magneto" size="4"Radhamadhab Sarangi^{Talk|Contribs} 15:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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I'm Aya Syameimaru!: cool, no? Just curious, how did you find it? Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 05:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I found it at Template:Wikipedia ads and Template:Wikipedia ads/navbox. It's a cool ad. iaspostb□x 06:41, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm Aya Syameimaru!, great! I just wanted to see how far this has reached. :-) Field Marshal (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Coordinators required

I think this WikiProject could benefit from coordinators who would help in the maintenance and upkeep of the wikiproject along with providing assistance to the members. At any given time, there should be a maximum of two coordinators. This will also, in a way, ensure that the project doesn't go dead like it was previously. Interested editors may enlist their names below and we can conduct a voting process. Note: This is starting out as a test; If enough people oppose having any coordinators at all, this whole thing will be scrapped. Pinging ArnabSaha as it is mainly his idea. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 16:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

• Agree ❯❯❯   S A H A 16:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Notability of Individual Passenger Train Articles

Hello fellow editors ! I have a doubt regarding inclusion of individual articles on normal passenger trains (which are ~ 15,000 in India). For example articles like Indore–Ajmer_Link_Express, Rajendra_Nagar_Patna–Indore_Express. These both examples are completely normal trains, which clear fails WP:GNG and their is no other subject specific guidelines for trains (that I am able to find). Most of these articles (that I have gone through) are unsourced or poorly sourced stubs. I believe that these articles should not be included on English Wikipedia, this may also be a case of WP:NOTTRAVEL. Can someone provide their views about it and what is the general consensus regarding it ? Thanks. Zoodino (talk) 15:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Zoodino. We don't get a lot of visitors here! Unfortunately I won't be able to respond fully right now as I'm about to go to sleep (IST). I would try to answer that question in my full capacity tomorrow. Until then, I would suggest you to have a look at this discussion that took place over here over a decade ago. Warm regards, Field Marshal (talk) 19:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan: Thanks for guiding me to the archived discussion. But the discussion seems to be inadequate. The number of participants are very less. The statements such as "I feel each named train is notable just like people who say each village is notable", seems to be the editor's personal opinion without any backing from any of Wikipedia's notability policy. Their is also no clear result of the discussion.

Can we have a general discussion again (here only, just inputs from other editors) on the topic (if possible), so we can reach a general consensus whether such articles should be created or not. Zoodino (talk) 11:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Zoodino: Yep. The old discussion was pretty much inconclusive. We surely can, and seeing the huge mess this subject is, must have a discussion, even though not many are active here. I am pinging a few editors I know who can help (Vatsmaxed, ArnabSaha, Area 51 Machan, User:Naveenpf.

Some the named trains should stay like Lucknow Mail or the Gujarat Mail or even the legendary Deccan Queen while the slower passengers and MEMUs, as you said, are certainly not notable at all. The category that is the most problematic is Slow and fast passenger trains in India whereas some (actually, a lot) cleanup will be needed in Express trains in India. I will wait for more opinions now. Pinging the active editors of the old discussion: Logicwiki, Ekabhishek. To the people I pinged, sorry for disturbing: You have no obligation to participate if you are not willing. Thanks, Field Marshal (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Field Marshal Aryan: Thanks for being interested in the discussion and pinging other editors. As mentioned already by you, these stub articles seems to be mess. Cleaning up these articles will surely improve the project quality and unnecessary backlog. Waiting for more opinions. Zoodino (talk) 04:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Zoodino, I agree. Articles like these aren't required. Also we need to asses them individually. ❯❯❯   S A H A 07:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't think you can develop an agreed standard for individual trains beyond the GNG. In Europe and the Americas named passenger trains generally meet that standard with ease, but we don't have articles on unnamed services between cities. I'm not familiar with sources for Indian railways so I can't speak to what the coverage looks like. Mackensen (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Narrow-gauge locomotives of India

This article should be restored back to it's original name and data.It is a dedicated article of this 2 series narrow gauge diesel locomotives of Indian railways because there are not much information to make dedicated article of this 2 series locomotives. That is why this 2 series locomotives data have been combined together to make one article. There is no need of making article of narrow gauge locomotives of India. Narrow gauge locomotives are already added in 2 articles Locomotives of India and List of diesel locomotives of India. Steam and battery power locomotives of Indian railways will added in 2 separate articles. I think you will understood my point and restored the article back to its original name and data.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 12:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I agree that there is not sufficient information available to create a dedicated articles of each of this "ZDM and NDM" locomotives. But that could not be reason for creating a special article for these 2 only. Even less information is available for narrow gauge battery and even for narrow gauge steam not much info is available, say for eg of BLR (Barsi light railways) locos. Regarding the "There is no need of making article of narrow gauge locomotives of India", the same can be said for ZDM and NDM too, they could be a part of Locomotives of India and List of diesel locomotives of India too, which they already are. Strictly speaking, we should have had, only Locomotives of India article and the individual loco articles. But in recent past, intermediate articles, such as List of diesel locomotives of India and List of electric locomotives of India etc were created. Considering all these, I preferred to rename the article to current as kind of compromise. Hope you understand, if you still dis-agree, then you can always continue this discussion on wikiproject talk page, let consensus decide over there. Vatsmaxed (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

• I think that you should discuss about it first before you move this page. No, it is not same because there is no dedicated article for this two series locomotives. It's better to restore the page back to its original name because it is a dedicated article of that 2 series narrow gauge diesel locomotives of Indian railway. Battery power and steam power locomotives of Indian railway should have separate articles like List of diesel locomotives of India and List of electric locomotives of India. If you want you can create separate article for narrow gauge battery and steam locomotives of India but restore the original article. I think its better if you should restore the article back to it's original structure and open a discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian railways and based on the discussion there you should change the name.Suvadeep Saha56 (talk) 12:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Suvadeep Saha56, I agree with Vatsmaxed here. The previous title would not have been able to accommodate the battery and steam based narrow gauge locomotives which don't have enough data to be warranted a separate article. The current title seems apt as we are not limited to two locomotive classes which anyways fall under the current title category. Also, yea, the discussion should be shifted to WikiProject Indian railways for greater visibility. Regards, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Moved the discussion here from my talk page. Better this stays here so it is easier to find in future. Vatsmaxed (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)