Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests/Archives/2022

De-listing of "Karnataka" and "Calculus"

Karnataka and Calculus were both recently de-listed by two different IPs. Both were nominated by User:TheEpicSnek. Plausible reasons were given (and I don't mind seeing the load here lightened), but this is irregular. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

I dont see how this would be seen as irregular. I feel that these pages are quite deserving of GA criteria and should be Copyedited. EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 00:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

And also my apologies. I forgot to remove the request from the page as it has already passed GA.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 00:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)\

After reading the reasons for them to be de-listed, I do find them somewhat peculiar.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 00:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

What was irregular was their being removed by anonymous editors. You yourself are quite welcome to remove requests that you think no longer need our services. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, I apologise for not remembering to remove my requests. I will also make the selections of which pages need to be requested carefully. Thanks.EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 02:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

TheEpicSnek, do you still want those articles to be copy edited? If so, we will restore them to the Requests queue. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, Thanks but i dont think i will be active for a while so its fine. Thanks though for offering to restore them. GOCE has undoubtedly been a integral part of wikipedia. Cheers EpicSnek ^{Talk to me here} 03:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

I gently warned both, who may be the same user; both IP addresses geolocate to the Philippines. All the best, Miniapolis 14:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

More IPv6 request removals

Two requests were removed today; Leon S. Kennedy here and Claire Redfield here; @Buidhe: had earlier been marked them Declined because the IP requester had not significantly edited the articles. I've restored the requests and marked them Withdrawn here.

Both IPv6s (requester and remover) geolocate to the same city and ISP in the Philippines so I'm assuming they are the same person, which is why I'm putting this here instead of a new section.

I also left a note at Buidhe's talk page to explain our process for questionable requests. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Baffle; I pinged the IP. All the best, Miniapolis 00:25, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Pikachu

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests#Pikachu —nominated by dynamic IP that does not appear to have edited the article. (t · c) buidhe 06:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

You are free to remove it. I apologize for the disruption that I've caused. I was not aware of the bot archiving and removing other requests. I won't be doing these kinds of edits again.2001:4455:364:A800:5D1B:7F0A:46BC:3CCB (talk) 07:20, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Marked as withdrawn. No worries! (t · c) buidhe 07:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

WKNR

Hi all; I've just put the request for WKNR on hold. After the request was added, another editor says an editing dispute is ongoing there here. In its history I see extensive editing, including two multi-thousand-byte removals, in the last few days. It seems to be unstable at the moment. I haven't yet checked the article's talk page. Courtesy-pinging requester @Nathan Obral: and the editor who brought this dispute to our attention @Sammi Brie:. I've no opinion about declining yet; let's see if it settles down first. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 05:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Baffle gab1978, I'm trying to mediate a dispute between Nathan and Levdr1lp. The primary undecided point of contention at this point is section headers (Special:Permalink/1070488967 vs. Special:Permalink/1070495599), so a copy editor's opinion on that for now might be useful. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, @Sammi Brie:. It's good of you to mediate in this dispute. The Guild prefers articles listed at the Requests page (REQ) to be stable; this avoids edit conflicts and copy-edits being quickly wiped out by other editors. A full copy-edit, especially on a huge page like this, is a lot of work and seeing that work needlessly wiped out in one edit is both frustrating, and a waste of the copy-editor's time and effort. This we try to avoid.

Copy-editing is about improving grammar, spelling, sentence structure, layout, flow, readability etc. We don't generally involve ourselves in content disputes. I've no opinion about the section headers beyond preferring brevity and concision; for advice on section headers, please see the Manual of Style.

I'm happy for the requests to remain on hold for a while, and please note the hold notice is purely advisory – it doesn't prohibit editors from working on the article if they wish. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 08:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for mediating, Sammi Brie. As I told Nathan on their talk page (with a mention about article ownership), I think Levdr1lp's section headers are an improvement. All the best, Miniapolis 14:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Agree with Baffle; a requester can't be blamed for an edit war. I'll take a look at it and post on talk pages as needed. All the best, Miniapolis 14:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978: I would like this request for WKNR be withdrawn. I asked Sammi Brie to have the editing dispute ended and have decided to step away from that page indefinitely. The buildout was not done properly and I regret this. I apologize for all of the trouble this dispute caused, and wish to offer an entirely different page to the Guild in its place. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 03:36, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Nathan Obral:; no problem, thanks for your reply. I'll mark the request withdrawn and it should be archived in 24 hours or so. Feel free to add another request to the page when you're ready. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 08:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Baffle gab1978: You're welcome. Thank you for understanding and for your patience. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 17:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Pastel QAnon

Less than an hour after re-opening it by striking a stale acceptance, I've placed the request for Pastel QAnon on hold because the requester AFreshStart has been blocked today as a confirmed sockpuppet account; see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jordan-Hooper-AOAPJM. I suggest we formally decline the request. Meanwhile, the article has been copy-edited by another editor and has been promoted to GA status so it probably doesn't need a c/e now anyway. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:05, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree that we decline. All the best, Miniapolis 13:28, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd also support a decline. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Support decline. Reidgreg (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks both; declined. I've given the article a once-over anyway. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:00, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Heads-up that the nominator has another request still up, for Traditional Britain Group. — GhostRiver 03:34, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @GhostRiver:; I've decline that one too. I should have checked. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 04:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Perceptions of the United States sanctions

Should this be delisted from the queue? Ever since the request was made, the article has been merged and redirected to United States sanctions. Lazman321 (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Lazman321:; I've placed the request on hold for now. It looks like a straight merge from the old article to a section here, so the merged material could be considered for a c/e if @Ghazaalch: (courtesy ping) still wishes it. The merged article hasn't been heavily edited recently and the text looks as though a c/e would be beneficial there. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:55, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Baffle gab1978:. I agree with you that a c/e would still be beneficial. Ghazaalch (talk) 06:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Ghazaalch: I've re-opened the request and pointed to the relevant section. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:24, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

(←) For the archive, this section c/e is done. Baffle☿gab 02:33, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Jagath Rodrigo

A request to c/e Jagath Rodrigo arrived today from @Niroshwanasinghe: (courtesy ping). The article has since been deleted and draftified is a declined draft here. I've put the request on hold pending its return to acceptance to mainspace, which seems unlikely at the moment. The requester also asks us to check the mostly off-line references, which isn't in the realm of copy-editing (and frankly we're not short of requests and backlog). I suggest we wait a week and decline if it's not back in mainspace by then; other suggestions welcome. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:10, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

This work I am doing is a partial fulfilment of my college command research studies. The topic was given by the college and I do not have any authority to change it. However, thank you for your speedy respond and I would appreciate your assistance in publishing this page on wikipedia. Please guide me and assist me in making this page to the expected standard of the wikipedia. Thanks in advance. By the time I will try my best to include more references. Niroshwanasinghe (talk) 20:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @Niroshwanasinghe: welcome to Wikipedia. Although another editor mistakenly directed you here, this WikiProject only deals with articles that are part of the encyclopaedia. This WikiProject doesn't list drafts at its Requests page because drafts that aren't accepted into Wikipedia are usually abandoned and eventually deleted, wasting other peoples' time and effort. The draft reviewer has left some guidance on the draft's talk page for you to follow. Although other editors may take a different view, because this draft is a part of your college course, I feel it would be unethical to edit it on your behalf. Once the draft is accepted into Wikipedia, we'll be happy to list it at the Requests page. Good luck and cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

(←) I've declined the request; the title is still redlinked and there's been no activity from the requester since 21 March. @Niroshwanasinghe: (courtesy ping) is welcome to re-add the request once the draft has been accepted into the mainspace. Baffle☿gab 20:21, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Climate change and agriculture

I've put the current request for Climate change and agriculture on hold because it's a disambiguation page that points to two articles, Effects of climate change on agriculture and Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture. I've asked the requester @Chidgk1: (courtesy ping) on their talk page here to select which article they want copy-edited. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 16:19, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

There's still no advice from @Chidgk1: (courtesy ping) about which of these articles is to be copy-edited so I suggest waiting another week and then decline as a disambiguation page. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree, Baffle. All the best, Miniapolis 13:56, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Please decline as no word from person who tagged it - sorry for wasting your time.Chidgk1 (talk) 05:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Miniapolis, and Chidgk1 for your reply; I've gone ahead and declined the request. You're always welcome to re-add the request once things are settled. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:19, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Climate change and agriculture

CC-BY-SA: copied from Requests page here; see that page for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 06:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)}}

This important subject has been tagged as low quality writing. Hope you can help - no rush. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Chidgk1 It's a dab page. (t · c) buidhe 10:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

 On hold until we know which article is to be copy-edited; this points to two articles, Effects of climate change on agriculture and Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture. I've left a not at the requester's talk page. Discuss at REQ Talk. Baffle☿gab 16:12, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Shoefly After you tagged the original article for "low quality writing" I asked for help here, but later split it. Since then Effects of climate change on agriculture has been edited quite a lot. Would you like one of these proficient prose polishers to look at either of the articles? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

(←) As we have not heard from Shoefly I suggest this request is cancelled. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Chidgk1;  Declined. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:16, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Border control

Since there is interest in splitting this very long article, I think it would put the cart before the horse to copyedit it at this time. Thoughts? Pinging requester Bogger. Miniapolis 02:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I've placed the request on hold. I think we should decline for now. The requester asks us to shorten some sections (though which ones to shorten are not specified) and to split off parts into separate articles. While a good c/e does often reduce verbiage, it's not the primary goal of a c/e, and splitting articles is beyond our remit. Also, it doesn't seem logical to fully c/e such a large article, only for chunks to be excised upon splitting. I think a c/e should wait until after the split(s). Cheers, Baffle☿gab 04:11, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Bogger may be on wikibreak, since he hasn't edited since April 8th; we should probably wait a bit before declining. All the best, Miniapolis 15:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

hey all, yeh no problem with a decline. I felt/feel the article needs restructuring, and thought the Guild might be worthy restructurererers. But if such work is deemed unworthy, fine by me. decline Bogger (talk) 14:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

"Restructuring" such a long article is asking a bit too much of a copyeditor; feel free to relist it after it's split. All the best, Miniapolis 16:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Request declined; thanks both. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

a draft c/e request

Greetings,

I did rewrite an article Draft:Ex-Muslim activism in Kerala which was not originally mine. I just helped it to my capacity and I will prefer some one else takes over the process of further copy edit improvement ahead.

Thanks

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 01:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I took a look at the article, and it doesn't look like it's ready to be copyedited yet. Feel free to list a copyedit request when it's in mainspace. All the best, Miniapolis 02:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

History of the University of Texas at Arlington (1965–present) on hold

I've put this request on hold because another article is in the process of being merged into History of the University of Texas at Arlington (1965–present); thanks to @BlueMoonset: (courtesy ping) for the information. I think it wouldn't be timely to carry out a full c/e of an already huge article while another is merged into it. Pinging @Michael Barera: for comment here; can you please let us know when the merger is done? Cheers, Baffle☿gab 08:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

After a fortnight, the merge has not yet begun and the requested article seems to be stable enough for a full c/e to occur. I'm removing my hold. If the copy-editor experiences edit conflicts or other difficulties they can abandon the c/e and we can discuss here. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Love's Train request (in March section)

The editor who made the request has posted that they wish to withdraw it. Should it be marked in such a way that the bot will archive the request in the appropriate manner? BlueMoonset (talk) 23:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: I added the {{withdrawn}} template to the section. The bot should clean it up soon. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:59, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Removing {{copy edit}} template

Please remove any existing {{copy edit}} tags from the article.

The instructions give this advice but do not explain why, if it would be possible to expand. Is there an immediate need for removing the tag? For example, if there is a two/three month backlog of copy edits, that's months in which someone else might resolve the tag. czar 16:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Czar: it's mostly to avoid edit conflicts during a requested c/e. Also, requests listed at REQ can be accepted at any time; it isn't a queue. In my experience, {{copy edit}} tags tend to linger longer than requests at REQ but there's no deadline on Wikipedia. It's unfortunate we have a large backlog at this time – we're almost always short of skilled volunteer copy-editors. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Sven Melander discussion

CC-BY-SA; text below copied from REQ [1] here by me. No response is needed. Baffle☿gab 02:07, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Sven Melander

Needs c/e after a major expansion by me, this after his recent death. ThanksBabbaQ (talk) 09:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

•  Working MaggieAtKryton (talk) 16:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

  On hold: I've asked a coordinator to help me take a look at the references section of the page as I noticed that some sources don't seem to be supporting the sentences they're next to. However, there is also an official celebrity page that we could maybe refer to if it's considered credible for Wikipedia. I'm still quite new to Wikipedia's criteria, so I didn't want to overlook anything just in case. It's been clarified to me that as a copy editor, I don't need to focus on the references of a Wikipedia page. However, because I did notice that this page's references should be more relevant to the info they're next to, I will mark them accordingly. MaggieAtKryton (talk) 21:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

  Comment, @MaggieAtKryton: Just so you know, WP:MINREF outlines when a statement requires an inline citation. You should remove the statement if any of the 4 criteria apply listed on the page for a statement lacking an inline citation. As you mentioned, this is not applicable to copyediting work, but it's still very useful for editing wikipedia in other aspects. Happy editing! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 20:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

  @PerfectSoundWhatever: Ah, thank you! I'm still sorting out all the rules for everything here, so it's nice to be pointed in the right direction. When I get the chance, I'll take a look at that too for this page. :) MaggieAtKryton (talk) 20:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

(←) I've asked MaggieAtKryton about the progress of this request on their talk page. Baffle☿gab 21:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Per their talk page reply, MaggieAtKryton is unable to continue copy-editing at this time. The request is now open to all. Discuss at REQ talk. Baffle☿gab 22:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Doubt

A fellow user copyedited the recently created Darker than Black: Shikkoku no Hana but the reception section might have some issues. It's a small section so I thought about asking here.Tintor2 (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Tintor2: what issues are you seeing here in the copy-edited version? While I would have handled the c/e differently, the extant prose in "Reception" wasn't poorly written and I don't think @TheRealSerenaJoy: (courtesy ping), who's a relatively new editor, made a poor job of the c/e. The "Plot" section, however, needed more work, most of which I think they handled well. I haven't looked at later revisions, so I can't comment on the current state of the article. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping Baffle gab your feedback is helpful. The Real Serena Joy^Talk 22:32, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

I tidied the Reception section a bit. I did not look at other sections. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Out of the Woods (song)

CC-BY-SA; I've copied this section from the Requests page here; for full attribution see that page's history. Discuss the request here; discuss the article at its own talk page. Baffle☿gab 23:26, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Out of the Woods (song)

I am planning to take this article to FAC and it needs a fresh eye to catch any prose issue. Thank you very much in advance. Ippantekina (talk) 17:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC

@Ippantekina: "The song was released for digital download as a promotional single" - "download" and "promotional single"? I assume it was download only for DJ's? I have checked the source and it was released on iTunes in 2014 so it's standard single and released in infobox should be fixed ("“Out Of The Woods” will be released on iTunes tomorrow, and Swift has released a video of herself discussing the track, which was written and produced by fun.". "Australian Singles Chart" is not actual chart name so I have removed capitals. Charts table: "2014–16" - you need to divide table by year of peak otherwise we don't know when it peaked. A lot of links to redirects. Eurohunter (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: Thank you for reaching out. To address your comments: (1) The WP:SONG community has established that being released onto iTunes alone does not necessarily make the song a single (see WP:SINGLE?); after its October 2014 release Taylor Swift and the label also said it was not a single at that point of time). (2) "digital download" refers to music download where a user on the internet can download music from a site. (3) unless the time gap is considerable (I'd say a 5-year gap) I'd keep the current charts section as it is because it is hard to trace when the song peaked/charted by retrieving certain chart history links. Thank you for addressing the Australian chart link. Is there a specific tool to check redirects? Ippantekina (talk) 12:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

It charted 136 in the United Kingdom and received Silver status just in 7 (or 5?) years. I think it's quite fast without even charting in top 100. Is there any article discussing it? Eurohunter (talk) 09:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it is too challenging for a song to get certified Silver in the UK; and no, it is certainly not worthy to have an article discussing it. Were it a 10 times Platinum single, however, there may be a chance. Ippantekina (talk) 12:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

@Eurohunter:, thank you for your attention to detail. For multiple reasons, questions about the content of a specific article are best addressed on that article's talk page, not here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

•  Request withdrawn Ippantekina (talk) 09:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Nuremberg trials c/e request

CC-BY-SA; I've copied this section from the Requests page here; for full attribution see that page's history. Baffle☿gab 01:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Nuremberg trials

I'm hoping to get this article to FAC in the future. (t · c) buidhe 02:56, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

•  Working Dhtwiki (talk) 00:40, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Working I'm going to give it a once-over for grammar and spelling! : ) Atomic putty? Rien! (talk) (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I've struck this acceptance; @Atomic putty? Rien!: per my note on your talk page, please work on another unaccepted article—there are plenty to choose from. Baffle☿gab 04:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Baffle☿gab, thank you so much for letting me know, and for clearing everything up! I appreciate you reaching out. I’m a relatively new editor, so please convey my apology to User:Dhtwiki if I’ve accidentally altered any of their work. I will absolutely continue working on submissions, and will take care to avoid potential editing conflicts. Atomic putty? Rien! (talk) (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

It's alright to look at articles on this page you're interested in and even to (infrequently) edit them, if they pique your interest and you find something to change. It's just that the current editor for a request is denoted by the "working" tag, and we should have only one at a time. Adding a second tag usually means that the previous editor has discontinued editing and another has taken their place. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:18, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear Future Husband

I've placed the request for the above article on hold because, after copy-editing about a third of it, the requester has here asked me to stop because the article is due to appear on the main page soon. Having no good reason to decline, I've offered the requester two alternatives; I can continue after a pause of they can withdraw the request. No discussion is needed here at this stage (but feel free if you wish). Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:07, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Request was withdrawn. Baffle☿gab 03:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Request removed

I've removed a request here because the requester has already added two extant requests. I've added a note to the requester's talk here. No discussion is needed at the moment (but feel free if you wish). Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Tor (network) on hold

I've placed the request for Tor (network) on hold; a c/e attempt was interrupted and there have been major edits in the last few days. As well, there are tags for missing citations, dubious text, disputed neutrality, text that needs to be updated, text that duplicates other articles, etc. Given the latter, I think declining the request might be the best action here. I'm sorry it took so long to bring this up here. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:48, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree, Baffle, and you certainly don't need to apologize . Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 13:19, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Support. Given the myriad of problems that goes beyond what copyediting can fix, I'd suggest declining. So far it seems that edits have stopped after BroVic stopped and added a {{copy edit}} tag to the page. The requester has also been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks both; I've declined the request. I've also removed the copy-edit template and retagged appropriately. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Noted, with thanks — BroVic (talk) 23:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Request removed (Prejudice)

I've removed a request for Prejudice here; this is because the requester already has two requests listed. I've added a note to their talk page here. No discussion is needed at the moment but feel free if you wish. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 02:34, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Wagatha Christie on hold

I've placed the request for Wagatha Christie on hold; this matter is still fairly current, the article is still attracting major edits and there's a move discussion ongoing at it talk page. I think a fortnight's wait should allow it to stabilize so a full c/e can occur. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:02, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I've now removed my "on hold" note as the article seems to have settled. Copy-editors might want to check the article's history and discuss any problems here. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Austro-German Postal Union on hold

I've placed the request for Austro-German Postal Union on hold because the article is unsourced. While the requester @RadioactiveBoulevardier: (courtesy ping) has suggested a source, copy-editing doesn't involve finding sources for articles. I suggest we decline this one; the requester is welcome to re-add it when sourcing is completed. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll do some work on it when I have the time and headspace. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 23:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Support decline. Articles aren't anything without sources. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Recommend decline. Completely unsourced, as far as I can see. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:25, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Agree that we should decline. Frankly, it's irksome to receive a copyedit request for an article tagged for expansion from de.WP which might not survive a deletion discussion. All the best, Miniapolis 13:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks all for your comments; I've declined the request. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Maanagaram c/e abandoned

I tried to copy-edit Maanagaram but I couldn't understand the gobbledygook in the plot section so I've abandoned my c/e attempt. I didn't do any work on the rest of the article. I wonder if someone else can look at the article and decide whether it should be listed at REQ. I'm usually fine with Indian film articles but in this case, I give up. In the meantime, I've tagged the section with {{Confusing}}. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan (the requester) has created a number of articles, and may not realize that the requests page is not for routine copyedits; apparently, the page had been tagged with {{copy edit}}. The plot section needs condensation and clarification, and I tend to remove nonsense . Since it needs a fair amount of work, I suggest that we decline and re-tag (placing it in the backlog). All the best, Miniapolis 13:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Any doubt could have been asked. The lead characters names are not mentioned in the film. The plot is very specific. DareshMohan (talk) 20:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I took a run at it. I think it's understandable enough now, though I'm not sure about the certificates. Some parts are a little vague but we can't be expected to cover every detail in a 700-word summary. – Reidgreg (talk) 23:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, @Reidgreg:, I couldn't make head nor tail of it past the third paragraph. There seemed to be lots of goons, thrashings and certificates involved. @DareshMohan:, I gathered that but life is short and the requests page is long. I may have another look at it this week, no promises. Thanks all for comments. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution on hold

Hi all, I've placed this request, which arrived today, on hold. The article looks as though it's dissecting the book's contents rather than discussing its effects on its subject area, coverage in reliable sources, critical reception etc. The requester @BartlebytheScrivener: (courtesy ping) says they don't know where to start with it. It may even be promotional editing. I think this one needs a total rewrite rather than a copy-edit. I suggest we decline this request. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:35, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

This may not have been the right place to make a request, but how do I even begin with this article? If I wanted to start a discussion about how to improve it, where would that be? I don't think the article's talk page would generate much interest and the United States History WikiProject is listed as semi-active. Thanks for any suggestions you can provide. BartlebytheScrivener (talk) 21:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi BartlebytheScrivener, copyediting tends to be one of the last things an article goes through. Wikipedia:Peer review could be what you're looking for. I suggest a decline at this time without prejudice. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

I tagged the article with {{research paper}} and posted a note on the talk page. I don't know if that will draw any attention, but it is the best place to start from a process standpoint. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi BartlebytheScrivener, in c/e mode, in this kind of situation I usually go through the article and remove anything that isn't about the article's subject. If it's referenced but off-topic, I normally leave it on the talk page so it will be available to future editors. If not, I'd boldly remove it per verifiability and/or BLP. This article is such a wall-of-text mess I'd be inclined to reduce it back to a stub that demonstrates its notability and includes at least two appropriate citations. Perhaps revert it to an earlier version. The article can then be appropriately built back and developed.

You could also bring it to the attention of Wikiproject Military History, which is active. There is also WikiProject Books, which seems to be active too. I hope that's useful. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Pinging Bustamove1, who seems to have done most of the work on the article (which is, IMO, inappropriately detailed). It's not suitable for copyediting at this time. All the best, Miniapolis 00:26, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

@BartlebytheScrivener @Baffle gab1978 @Miniapolis

Thank you for your notes today. The wiki-article is now under 3,000 words, although the preferred KB editorial parameter is undetermined. I deleted quotes from the book and inserted content from scholarly assessments of said book. If you wish me to replace all quotes from the book with such assessments, please let me know. I am still condensing the background section and I'm not finished with certain sections, i.e., the last section, etc. I hope to include a "Style/Genre" section as well. Any user assistance in this regard would be greatly appreciated. Have a nice evening. Bustamove1 (talk) 06:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Bustamove1: and @BartlebytheScrivener:, thank you both for your comments here. Bustamove1, I appreciate that you've been working to improve the article, though I haven't reviewed your changes; that's a great thing to do! I'm going to decline this request for copy-edit though. I do recommend making contact with the WikiProjects I mentioned above. This WikiProject doesn't usually copy-edit articles that are being heavily edited because copy-edits can be easily erased by new and unexpected changes there. Neither do we, as a collective effort, involve ourselves with article development. I hope you'll appreciate our reasons. Please feel free to re-request a copy-edit once the article development work has been completed and we'll be happy to take another look. Good luck with the article and cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

@Baffle gab1978 @Jonesey95 In addition to word count reduction and editing the wiki-article, I reviewed said article for my own technical writing and will next review third-party source prose (in quotations). I only have two concluding questions: 1) Can I (or an editor) update or remove at least one of the boxes, either now or after I review the third-party source prose? I ask because of community ownership, of which I'm a member, box overlap WP:MTR, and my preference for community contributions to Summary/Content and Themes, prior to my submission for copy-editing (I have to complete summaries of additions to the 1992 edition and 2017 edition, two summaries of the critical reception, and 1-2 sentences summaries of the 50th anniversary retrospectives);" 2) Can I (or an editor) place an Under Construction box in the appropriate section or at the top of the wiki-article, especially while I edit or add content? If you prefer not to answer these questions for whatever reason, I can go elsewhere. I appreciate your time and consideration. Bustamove1 (talk) 04:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I've answered on my talk page. I've no objection if Jonesey95 wishes to reply here, though I think this section should stay focused on the c/e request. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 08:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

@Baffle gab1978 @Jonesey95 Jonesey95 need not reply, Baffle☿gab answered my questions. I will use your non-fiction guide headers, revise or delete every sentence in the wiki-article, complete the last two sections, and then request copy-editing to determine exactly which sentences (including, for most sentences, third-party/Bailyn quotations) are a better fit for an academic paper. Many thanks! Bustamove1 (talk) 08:25, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

BBC Radio London on hold

I've put the request for BBC Radio London on hold; my major concern is large areas of uncited text, much of which falls under BLP rules. There are also problems with advertorial text. I think these problems are beyond the GOCE's remit and should be dealt with before a full c/e. I suggest we decline this one; copy-editing isn't cleanup. Courtesy pinging the requester, @Acabashi:. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:19, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Agree, Baffle. All the best, Miniapolis 23:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Miniapolis; I've declined the request, though I note Acabashi hasn't edited since making the request. They are welcome to re-request once the problems with the article have been fixed. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 12:14, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Sport in India on hold

I've placed the request for Sport in India on hold; this huge article has a {{Cleanup}} template, several uncited sections and uncited text elsewhere, and should probably be split up and moved to "List of..." titles. I suggest we decline this request for now; at the risk of sounding like a broken record, copy-editing isn't cleanup. Courtesy-pinging the requester, @Rock Stone Gold Castle:. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Agree, for the same reason. I also agree that the article should be divided. All the best, Miniapolis 03:03, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again; I've declined it. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, the same article, under a redirect Sports in India, is also listed under November 2022 (Sport in India was in October 2022); I imagine you'll want to decline it there as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, thank you @BlueMoonset:, I hadn't even noticed they'd snuck that one in there. I must be getting slack. ;) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 13:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

MEK troll farm on hold

I've placed the request for MEK troll farm on hold because that article is currently being considered for deletion at AfD. There's no need to reply just now. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 18:06, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Note; request was declined because the article was deleted. Baffle☿gab 06:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Telugu Desam Party on hold

I went to review the progress of the copy-edit by @BluePenguin18: (courtesy ping), who has done some work there (thanks). This article is a mess, some of it is incomprehensible, with gems like "Hud Hud cyclone is brutally hitted the vizag at that time It need the biggest need of leadership. CBN rose above everyone and helped Vizag recover at jet speed.". There are also maintenance tags for missing citations, fancruft and excessive details at the top of the article. This doesn't seem like a copy-editable article to me. How should we proceed? I'd normally suggest a decline but BluePenguin18 has already done some good work there so maybe we should mark it done and archive the request. I've already removed some uncited and garbled text (see its history, and I'll look to see if I can find an old version to salvage. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 02:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Appreciate the thanks! Picked up this article because my parents are Telugu immigrants helping me wade through the personality-based politics of India. Spent the past few days reviewing a big batch of books, articles, and websites and will get back to overhauling the page soon. Feel free to mark the request as decline/done based on what experienced GOCE editors support as I continue my work on this woefully outdated article. Alas, this editing will fall outside the December 2022 GOCE blitz😭BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 03:33, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

I've come across articles that have extensive maintenance tags in our backlog myself. Does the bot recognise {{partially done}} for archiving? Otherwise I have no issue with the request being marked as being worked on until BluePenguin18 is finished. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree with Baffle that we should mark it done and get it archived. Thanks to BluePenguin18 for taking it on, and he can continue when he gets around to it. All the best, Miniapolis 15:32, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

After actually looking at the article, though , I think it may be copyeditable. Although I enjoy general cleanup in addition to copyediting, with pages like this it's important to stay in one's lane; elsewhere lies madness. All the best, Miniapolis 15:37, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks all for your comments; I've marked the request done and will manually archive the request. I should have checked this one beforehand and could have handled it better but the state of the article made me wince. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:04, 22 December 2022 (UTC)