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Archive 1

R Dhanarajan

With the player R Dhanarajan, does R stand for anything, or is it actually his full name?Borgarde (talk) 06:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Can't find anything saying anything different. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

New player pages

Today Royal Wahingdoh F.C. qualified for 2014–15 I-League, and when they play their first match next season, a lot of their players will have passed WP:NFOOTY, so it would be a good idea to list known players who don't already have pages. Who wants to collaborate on that with me? Coderzombie (talk) 16:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I am actually planning on doing that and would love the help. How should we go about this? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Great! Here's the current squad. We'll have a fair idea about who they'll retain once the season begins. We can work on "draft" pages. Meanwhile, another idea would be to dig up some history of Royal Wahingdoh and bring the team page to a respectable state. Coderzombie (talk) 04:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Agree. I will make the 2014-15 project pages and I will share them with you. These project pages will basically detail what we should do before the season actually begins (does not include ISL). --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. I like the way you create pages under your user page, that's a good way to go. Coderzombie (talk) 17:10, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, feel free to do so yourself, as you have probably seen, I have been very invisible this year so far so I will try hard to come back. Part of why though I left if because of the disorganization of Indian football right now... now it seems things are becoming more clearer so I will again try to get back into it. Lego! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:29, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Foreign players

Hello Task force I'm trying to create new indian foreign players.

Are these players notable?:

• Alfred Jaryan
• Bekay Bewar
• Loveday Okechukwu

Thanks and cheers--Lglukgl (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Bekay Bewar is not notable enough as per WP:NFOOTY, at least until Royal Wahingdoh plays in I-League next season. I've posted the link of userpage I'm create right now. Feel free to add to that. Coderzombie (talk) 03:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Loveday is also not notable despite playing against I-League clubs in Pune in the IFA Shield as his club, Ar-Hima (now Rangdajied United), were still a 2nd tier club. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 03:24, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Foreign players PART2

Hello Task force I'm trying to create new indian foreign players. Are these players notable?

• Eric Obiora Aningo
• Ugochukwu Emmanuel Chigozie
• Onyegbule Uchechukwu
• Nathan Onyeka
• Eze Kingsley
• Joel Sunday
• Umunarre Ugochulwu Godswill
• Oluwaunmi Somide
• Joshua Adewumi

Also please see PIFA F.C. there are mistakes + vandalism + vandalism + vandalism

Thanks and cheers --Lglukgl (talk) 23:07, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

None of those footballers are notable. The only one notable is Somide but that is only because he had played in the Europa League a few seasons ago. Joel Sunday and a few others are regulars in the I-League 2nd Division but that league is not fully-pro. Also I fixed the PIFA article. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 04:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Reminder for Indian Super League and the rest of Indian football.

So... only 13 days left.... EXCITING! Just a reminder for us that starting October 1st that we need to go hard on the Indian Super League and other articles pertaining to Indian football. It will be a tough job but for just 12 days we can do this! We also need to discuss what we will do during the season where a lot of editing will be done... we want this to be smooth. Okay, ArsenalFan700 out! --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Cup appearances

What are the cups that count for "Cup appearances" for statistics for the players who play in India? Federation Cup (India) only, or some others as well? Durand Cup? Coderzombie (talk) 13:01, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

See this. So yes. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:28, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I wish we had better sources for appearances/goals for Durand Cup and Federation Cup. soccerway is only good for I-League. Coderzombie (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Agree. I do not know why soccerway can not do Federation Cup as they do domestic cups for other countries. I can understand Durand Cup as barely anyone releases the line-ups but Fed Cup would be nice. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 09:56, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Kerala Premier League

Why can't we add the state kerala in the scopes....Any body Interested in Improving Kerala Premier League Page and its Inaugural Edition (2014) Page ?? Match Details Available at [1] and [2] Gautham V P (talk) 16:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

A new season, with new hopes

Yet another season of Indian football concludes. And from where I see, things are looking up for Indian football. 2014 Indian Super League created a lot of hype. 2014–15 I-League was given step-sisterly treatment, but the final game of Bengaluru FC vs Mohun Bagan saw a lot of publicity. So here's to hoping even better 2015–16 season. If you are looking to contribute more to Indian football on Wiki, feel free to contact regular football contributors.

One thing where Indian football can certainly use regular editors is season pages for ISL and I-League clubs. e.g. I generally maintain Bengaluru FC season pages (such as 2014–15 Bengaluru FC season). it'd be great to have 2-3 editors who would "own" season pages for various clubs. I know we don't have many users, but well, we can dream. Coderzombie (talk) 11:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Has the 2015-16 I-League started?

Has the 2015-16 I-League started? I just recently saw this. Many of the pages relating to this season need improvement. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Which pages? The 2015-16 page is so far updated pretty well. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700: I didn't mean to insult any of the work you have put in, but it seems that the articles pertaining to the two promoted clubs, and some of the sections such as "Personnel and kits" could use improvement. Also I was just surprised that the I-League started since I thught the Federation Cup (India) was suppose to happen, which it apparently didn't. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:42, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Ahh, did not realize that came across as me feeling insulted, haha, nah, I just wanted to know. There has been a lot of editing going on lately by a lot of users so I thought you may have found a page that was heavily vandalized or something. Ya, the I-League starts today and ends in April. The Federation Cup will be in May with the top 8 I-League teams being in it. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay thanks, that clears it up. Inter&anthro (talk) 15:08, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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2016–17 Aizawl F.C. season

As the champions of I-League, Aizawl deserve a season page at the least. I have created the page, need the help of other editors to take it to a decent level. Coderzombie (talk) 17:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Pinging regular editors of Indian football: @ArsenalFan700:, @Inter&anthro:, @Wordzgamez: Coderzombie (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Agree. We should actually try to go all out to make this page great (GA) due to the occasion and the team that won it. From relegation to champions, deserves a damn good article. Let's use a "work page" at User:ArsenalFan700/2016–17 Aizawl F.C. season and go from there. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Great start, I'll pitch in. Hope others too. Coderzombie (talk) 11:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Article on Indian football league system

@ArsenalFan700: Shouldn't there be an article on Indian football league system? --Pray93 (talk) 18:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to wait to see what happens with the ISL/I-League merger before making that page. All we have right now are I-League, I-League 2nd Division, and then maybe ISL as also a top tier. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

2017-18 ISL Season

Guys since the new season is just some 20 days away, can someone help me in creating the new season pages of the ISL clubs and maintaining the old ones, since as of now we don't have that good quality articles and as of now many of them are just stubs. Here is some work I put in these articles 2017–18 Mumbai City FC season, 2017–18 FC Goa season--Anbans 585 (talk) 09:14, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700:, @Inter&anthro:, @Wordzgamez:, @MBlaze Lightning:, @Pray93: Coderzombie (talk) 10:46, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I've been a lazy fucker all month, been meaning to do them all before 1 November but ya... ugh. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:49, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

So how about we complete those pages before the season starts, and after that we give them a weekly or biweekly update, and not leave them like this-2016 FC Goa season--Anbans 585 (talk) 16:42, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Ideally, my dream has always been to have them completed and updated whenever they need to be updated, even if it was daily. I have a page for my ISL project which I will start back up. I just need help from you guys since I can't do it all, that also includes keeping an eye on the Indian Super League, 2017–18 Indian Super League season, and India national football team pages because I will check back every now and then and see lots of vandalism and I just can't check all the time. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:25, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Ya, happy to help, to start with, which pages should I start maintaining--Anbans 585 (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700:, @Anbans 585:, @Coderzombie: Maybe I should've asked/consulted you guys before doing anything but I've already made tons of changes to 2017–18 NorthEast United FC season. Please check it. I hope the article makes a lot more sense now with all the loan returns and draft. --Pray93 (talk) 19:00, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@Pray93:, you have done some very good work in that article, we just need to create and manage, some of the other articles. The season page of Mumbai City, FC Goa, Bengaluru FC & Northeast United are so far complete. Currently I am working on completing the previous season pages of FC Goa. If you don't have any other articles to update, then can you please update 2017–18 Mumbai City FC season in the same way as what you did to the 2017–18 NorthEast United FC season.--Anbans 585 (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@Anbans 585:, I was planning to work on previous season pages of NorthEast United, but this is more important so I'll get to 2017–18 Mumbai City FC season before any other. --Pray93 (talk) 7:18, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@Pray93: Nice work in the 2017–18 Mumbai City FC season page, a couple of more edits and we will have a decent page. I will complete the similar version of 2017-18 Delhi Dynamos FC (similar to that of what i made in the Mumbai City FC season) season till tomorrow, after that we can make other necessary edits to it.Anbans 585 (talk) 13:20, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@Anbans 585:, I guess transfer section of is done. --Pray93 (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@Pray93: Well then I think that 2017–18 Mumbai City FC season page doesn't need any more edits currently, and it along with Bengaluru & NorthEast United can be added in the completed pages list. Your next target, doing the same with 2017–18 FC Goa season. One more thing, I think that you don't need to find more links to the news about the signing (you can if you want), as there are plenty of the links that I already put in the reference list of the transfers. It will probably save some of your time.--Anbans 585 (talk) 15:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@Anbans 585: Couple of more edits needed on 2017–18 FC Goa season. --Pray93 (talk) 11:00, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

2017–18 I-League U18

U18 I-League has begun. For now, it's just Delhi Zone, but thought I'd let the task for know and would appreciate any help. Coderzombie (talk) 07:07, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700:,@Coderzombie: I-League U18 is renamed as U18 Youth League.see i-league.org.Have to change names of I-League U18 and 2017–18 I-League U18. It would be great if main page includes U15 and U13 Youth leagues like this and this. --Wordzgamez (talk) 16:53, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

That's a good point. We need to confirm this and build consensus, then we can move the page. Coderzombie (talk) 08:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Regarding results of the other league, I think there should be a page like Youth football in India, or something similar that covers the overall structure and results over the years. Thoughts, @ArsenalFan700:? Coderzombie (talk) 08:24, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

There should be a Youth football in India page. Regarding the addition of u15 and u13 leagues, I have usually been told that it wouldn't be notable to create season pages for those levels (u18 only and above) but based on the two pages linked, I guess we can include their winners in the main I-League U18 league page or in a Youth football in India league. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:11, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I guess we can include their winners in the main I-League U18 league page or in a Youth football in India league. This is what I implied too. U15 and U13 leagues are not notable on their own, but if we have youth football in India page, we can just create a list of winners without individual page, I think that's encyclopaedic enough. It can also show history of the youth football so far. Thoughts on moving The page to I-League Youth U18 and/or 2017–18 I-League Youth U18? Coderzombie (talk) 12:22, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I know, just reiterating haha :) I think the best course of action is creating the page Youth football in India, somehow create an infobox similar to Football in India, good intro detailing all of Youth football in India, from these leagues to the state tournaments etc., maybe stuff on baby leagues. Then add a separate section for the I-League youth leagues (Under the heading "I-League") and then sections within that for I-League U18, I-League U15, and I-League U13. Link the I-League U18 section to I-League U18 using etc. For each I-League U section, just add the infobox, intro, and then past results. I can create if you want or you guys can have it. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:29, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good. Go ahead and create it, I'll contribute as well. Coderzombie (talk) 12:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Started User:ArsenalFan700/Youth Football in India. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

2017-18 I-League

2017-18 I-League (supposed to be our top-flight league) has begun and we still don't have season pages for most of the clubs except for 2017-18 East Bengal F.C. season. I created this season pages for our defending champions, 2017-18 Aizawl F.C. season and our youngest (and most promising!!) I-League team 2017-18 Indian Arrows season. But, there is not much information on how transfers are done in I-League and also I am slightly new to this. I hope someone would create pages for the rest of the teams and also please try to add some references and also complete other information, if missed, on pages created by me. Thanks. Sagavaj (talk) 23:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

To all active-members, since I am new to this and I don't know on exactly how this works. Do you get any notifications whenever there is something written on this talk page or do you check this talk page regularly? Sagavaj (talk) 01:45, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sagavaj: Excellent job with Aizawl and Indian Arrows season page! You are right, we need season pages for the club, but if you scroll above you'll see, we are always trying to add as much as we can, but we don't have enough editors. We have a few regular editors that create new pages of the players, youth leagues etc. Regarding notifications, most of us have put this page in the watchlist, so whenever someone leaves a message, we can see it. Coderzombie (talk) 02:18, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

@Coderzombie: I can maintain two pages I created but biggest doubt was how do you get all the transfer data for I-League. Atleast for Indian Arrows, AIFF announced the squad but for Aizawl, I just copied from their wiki page but I couldn't find any references on that. I also doubt on if I covered all the transfer data of Aizawl FC for this season. Squad mentioned in I-league website is smaller than team mentioned in Aizawl wiki page. Do I need to keep only members as per I-league website?(talk) 02:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

You are right. Transfer details are very sketchy when it comes to Indian football in general. One of the good things lately is that I-League publishes match reports for every match, so if you go through match reports, I think it should cover most of the squad, but yeah you'll miss out on some players who are not even on the bench. Coderzombie (talk) 03:43, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help. And if there are any images which can be placed in those two pages, it will be a very big help. Sagavaj (talk) 03:57, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Royal Wahingdoh F.C. players

As discussed above, I'm trying to create a few potential pages for Royal Wahingdoh F.C. players when the team plays 2014–15 I-League next year. Feel free to add the content as well as other potential players you can think of

• User:Coderzombie/Jackichand Singh
• User:Coderzombie/Bekay Bawar

Italian foreign players

Hello task force can you confirm that Bruno Cirillo and Emanuele Belardi are new Pune FC players? Is Franco colomba new pune manager?

• http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calcio-internazionale/pune-fc-cirillo-e-belardi-in-india-da-franco-colomba/

2017–18 I-League 2nd Division

2017–18 I-League 2nd Division has been announced and I have created initial page, but will need more work and might required different structuring compared to previous seasons, as there are reserves team this year. Coderzombie (talk) 09:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Will also need club pages for two new clubs, Madhya Bharat F.C. and TRAU Coderzombie (talk) 09:29, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

I observed that initially ISL reserve teams were named as reserve but now changed to B teams. Don't we need to wait until how the clubs want to name them? As you can see that atleast for some big clubs, they just name it little differently like Real Madrid Castilla though I don't think that Indian ISL clubs are thinking in that way. Sagavaj (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

B teams and youth teams

As most of you know a lot of 'B' teams of Indian Super League teams are participating in I-League 2nd Division this year, so they'll be kind of notable, so we'll need pages for them. A lot of these teams have a youth team as well and they participate in Youth League U18, but they are not necessarily notable enough to merit their own pages. So we need to discuss how do we go about managing those pages. Here's my proposal: The teams that participate in 2nd division should have pages similar to Bengaluru FC Reserves and Academy. This page will encompass reserve team (or 'B' team if you want to call it) as well as Youth teams under one umbrella. My rationale is that as far as the Indian clubs go, there's not enough content to justify separate pages for both teams and English club pages already follow this (e.g.Manchester United F.C. Reserves and Academy or Arsenal F.C. Under-23s and Academy). So I propose consolidating existing pages to this format. Thoughts? Coderzombie (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Paging @ArsenalFan700:, @Inter&anthro:, @Wordzgamez: Coderzombie (talk) 10:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes there should be consistency in the format. As for as naming, better to wait till the fixtures are published in i league website.

--Wordzgamez (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

I have no issue with Coderzombie's proposal. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:38, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support for Reserves and Academy: Yeah, I support what CoderZombie said. I think it should be like this: For a club like Pune City, they already have an academy and they will now have their reserves in the I-League 2nd Division. So the page should be FC Pune City Reserves and Academy and then when noted in say Youth League U18, it would be FC Pune City Reserves and Academy|Pune City and with the ]] and [[ in between. Then, for the I-League 2nd Division, it would be FC Pune City Reserves and Academy|Pune City Reserves. This way, no one I believe is confused and everything is kept in one place and can be organized properly.

Now, for teams who will field a reserve team but do not have an academy, such as the Kerala Blasters. They can just have Kerala Blasters FC Reserves and obviously in the I-League 2nd Division page they can be listed as Kerala Blasters FC Reserves|Kerala Blasters Reserves. Again, it makes things make sense, we can create one category for both "Reserves and Academy" and "Reserves" sides combined, and everything will look neat and organized.

Finally, season pages. For FC Barcelona B, they have 2017–18 FC Barcelona B season and for my New York Red Bulls II, we have 2017 New York Red Bulls II season. For Arsenal F.C. Under-23s and Academy, we do not have 2017–18 Arsenal F.C. Under-23s season. However, Arsenal U23's don't play in a national league while New York Red Bulls II and Barcelona B do. These reserve teams will play in a national league so "technically" are allowed to have season pages. Naming wise, it would not be totally against 2017–18 FC Pune City Reserves and Academy season BUT that might get sloppy in the future so it should be, if made, 2017–18 FC Pune City Reserves season.

Also, really finally, I will change the name of Chennaiyin FC B to Chennaiyin FC Reserves and Academy and in the actual article will make a section for the Reserve team and in it will say that they are officially known as Chennaiyin FC B... so it would be as so:

Chennaiyin FC Reserves (officially known as Chennaiyin FC B) is a blah blah blah.

So ya, what do you guys think? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:31, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Largely support what you said, except a couple of minor points. Why shouldn't we have just Kerala Blasters FC Reserves and Academy instead of just Kerala Blasters FC Reserves page any way? Even if they don't have a separate academy, if they are fielding a youth team, that implies they have an at least in-house academy. Second point, I am unsure about allowing seasons pages for 2nd division team. Is 2nd division league fully professional? And even if they are, I think it'd be a stretch to allow reserve teams season pages. Though I don't feel too strongly about it. Coderzombie (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

If they are just fielding a youth team and not an academy, they don't have an academy. Would make no sense then to say Reserves and Academy. Each team page will have a section for Youth development (see Toronto_FC#Youth_development) and we can have a main article header which leads to say Kerala Blasters FC Reserves. Details about the youth team can be then kept in the main page. Basically I am now going on pure technicality. As for the seasons, I believe you are right that it is based on WP:FPL meaning they wouldn't be eligible for a page. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Alright, that's a fair argument. If and when they have an academy, the page can always be moved to Reserves and Academy. Coderzombie (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm coming here from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FC Pune City B - my take on this would be to wait until the season starts and then move these pages to the official name used by the I-League 2 for each team, whether it be Chennaiyin B or Pune City Academy or what have you, even if there's diversity among how franchises refer to their I-League 2 club. In terms of season articles, this is not a fully professional league, and so a season article would be a tough sell without good references. A "national league" is not required. In fact, there's a question as to whether these club articles would fly as I don't think the I-League 2 is fully professional, nor do these teams play in a national cup competition per WP:NFOOTY, but I have no personal problem with their inclusion; just something to flag. SportingFlyer talk 19:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Also, since this is a reserve team in a league inside the national pyramid, unlike England, the Reserves and Academy approach doesn't quite work in my opinion. FC Barcelona B or NYRB II are much better examples of what these articles should be than Man United Reserves and Academy. SportingFlyer talk 19:54, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Eh, I think the Reserves and Academy approach would work fine here. I mean, I don't see why not at all. You can have a section for the Reserves and one for the academy on one simple page and the intros can be:

Football Club Pune City Reserves and Academy is the youth system of Pune City. The reserve team participates in the I-League 2nd Division, the second tier for football in India. The academy teams participate in the Youth League U18, as well as other leagues and tournaments.

Something like that. Agree that season pages won't be needed unless they can get to a fully-professional level. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 20:16, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I've looked across Wikipedia and it appears the general practice is to have the reserve team have its own separate page if it's in a national competition. The only exception I found were Croatian clubs in the Druga HNL but those articles pre-date the reserve teams playing in the national league. I ultimately don't care, but I think consistency is important. We can include the academy on the main club article page. SportingFlyer talk 21:52, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

We could do that but then a lot of academies will have their squads and honors available and if that is the case I would rather that be on a different page than the main club page. All we need is for someone to add "Youth honors" to the Kerala Blasters page. Personally, I am just going to go ahead with the move in a couple days when I have time. Get it over and done with and remove all doubt. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 01:53, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. Coderzombie (talk) 17:59, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

2017-18 Minerva Punjab F.C. season

Is anyone creating or planning to create page to our new I-League champions? Does this become a trend of creating season page for I-League champions after they were declared champions? Sagavaj (talk) 14:31, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Created 2017–18 Minerva Punjab F.C. season. Updated match statistics. Hope this would be edited to a decent page. Sagavaj(talk) 22:17, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Good work. Will try to update more to it. Coderzombie (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

2018 AIFF Super Cup

Is anyone trying to create page for AIFF Super Cup or do we still need to wait until fixtures were announced by AIFF? Sagavaj (talk) 15:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sagavaj: Might be good to wait till we get the clarification on the exact name of the tournament and more details. Coderzombie (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I think name would be almost the same but still I think you are right on waiting until tournament gets finalized. Sagavaj (talk) 16:03, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

You can start creating a draft in your user space, then we can move it to appropriate title when announced. Coderzombie (talk) 16:16, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

What we need to do is move the current information on Indian Super Cup to Indian Super Cup (1997–2011) while then putting new information on the current Super Cup page. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700:, you should have moved the page itself, rather than just the content. The history of the page belongs to Indian Super Cup (1997–2011) rather than the current page. Coderzombie (talk) 03:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Eh, I just wanted to avoid the redirect and dealing with that honestly. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

@ArsenalFan700:@Coderzombie: Super Cup (India) page is vandalized. Can you please fix it.

We are just getting hosts of new editors for some reason and they keep adding stuff without consulting other editors. Fixed. Coderzombie (talk) 10:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Intercontinental Cup

@ArsenalFan700:, @Sagavaj:, @Coderzombie: Any suggestion on what to do with Champions Cup (India) page? AIFF changed name of the tournament to Intercontinental Cup this year and last years tournament was named Tri–Nation Series. Can we rename and Make it main page for Intercontinental Cup or delete it? --Wordzgamez (talk) 09:07, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

This is honestly a very good question to which I have no answer. I created 2018 Intercontinental Cup (India) because that's what it's called this year. AIFF says this is going to be an annual thing going to forward. In my opinion, let's just keep it status quo until we get confirmation. I am open to suggestions. Coderzombie (talk) 09:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

My suggestion... delete it or merge the Champions Cup (India) page with the Tri-Nations Series page. If people want to know about the tournaments they will find the Tri-Nations and Intercontinental Cup pages. We can then link to those pages on both India national football team results and 2016–17 in Indian football and 2017–18 in Indian football respectively. Until we actually know this is the name going forward, like with say, a website, then it shouldn't have a page of its own. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

I think as ArsenalFan700 suggested, moving relevant contents to Tri-Nations Series page and deleting Champions Cup page seems plausible. We can create dedicated page for Intercontinental Cup if it happens again next year.--Wordzgamez (talk) 07:08, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Unified League

Though I know that as per AFC backed report India was allowed to have concurrent league for 2018-19 seasons, any chances of having unified league by 2018-19 since I see that new ISL season page has already been created. I am placing it here since we already have winner of 2017-18 I-League 2nd Division and am planning to start creating next season I-League page. So, do you think we need to wait for some time or can we create immediately? Thanks.--Sagavaj (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I think we are good to go on I-League page for the new season. It's not WP:CRYSTAL any more. Coderzombie (talk) 07:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

2018 SAFF Cup - India nationals or u-23s

Hello everyone, I am writing because of a minor confusion of the 2018 SAFF Championship. It seems as though India is playing solely with under-23 players for the tournament, they did the same for the 2009 edition. What is unclear however is if India is playing with its official under-23 squad (and thus appearances and goals in the tournament by Indian players should not be registered with the national team statistics) or if this is the national team whose players happen to all be under 23 (in which case goals and appearances would count towards senior international statistics). Thanks Inter&anthro (talk) 02:56, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

SAFF is not under-23 tournament. India has only sent U23 tournament to give rest to regular team players and/or they are busy with their ISL teams. So to answer your question, they just happen to be all under 23. This would definitely count as senior international statistics. Coderzombie (talk) 04:07, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I'll therefore count the appearances and caps in the competition for the senior side. Inter&anthro (talk) 13:41, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity...Is it just india or did everyone send their U-23 teams? Sagavaj (talk) 13:44, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Sunil Chhetri

Sunil Chhetri page used to be a good article once upon a time, but hasn't been updated much since, except for stats and is no longer a good article. As we are in off-season, I think it'd be a good idea for us to collaborate and make it a good article again. Thoughts? Coderzombie (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I see among FL nominations that even Radamel Falcao goal scoring list is being nominated for FL though he scored only 32 goals whereas Chhetri scored almost double. One big reason is that the Chhetri list doesn't have any references on goals scored. I am thinking of trying to get it to FL status. If I am to look for references, do you think it is possible on finding everything for all the goals he scored? Any inputs on how to get it to FL status? Also would be helpful if someone also helps me with this. Thanks. Sa Ga Vaj 22:24, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Just to confirm, you are talking about List of international goals scored by Sunil Chhetri page, right? Coderzombie (talk) 04:38, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Coderzombie: yes. Sa Ga Vaj 08:31, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

U-18 League is now called Elite Youth League? WUT?

Source. Coderzombie (talk) 15:58, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Did you miss when that actually happened? That was like a month ago lol --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Not sure how. Coderzombie (talk) 17:15, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Haha, it happens. But ya, it is the Hero Elite League (U18), Hero Junior League (U15), and Hero Sub-Junior League (U13). --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Changing the logos of Indian Football Clubs

I have uploaded the Club Logos as new files, in a standard format of {{{Official <<Club Name>> Logo.png}}} format, with a resolution of 320px. Please cope with the change. FootballExclusive (talk) 15:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Football system

I made these 2 tables/chart of our football system. please review it. if any edit required, tell me in my talkpage, or edit it there. অর্ণব  S a  h a  12:51, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Manjappada

To all members here, I want bring your notice here, every club has a fan group now a days, but that does not matter that it passes wikipedia guidelines most importantly WP:SIGCOV and WP:GROUP. Without fulfilling these guidelines we cannot keep these kind of articles. The article Manjappada, fan group of Kerala Blasters FC was first created in 2016 and deleted per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manjappada, failing SIGCOV. Again it was recreated in 2018 and redirect per discussion at [[3]], failing SIGCOV along with failing per G4 and G7 of WP:CSD. And recently it was recreated again in May 2020 and deleted per G4:recreation of deleted page, G5:creation by blocked user.

However, if we consider the first deletion of Manjappada was basically for not having significant coverage. And the latest article created was atleast four times the size of the 2016-2018 article. Its well structured than before and has coverage in TOI, The News Minute, FirstPost, AsianNet News, Sportskeeda, Goal.com, New Indian Express. I am bringing the discussion to have a consensus if we can keep it or not as the main contributer addressed the matter at my talk page and alleged that the deletion was not proper. To me it will be a weak keep. Coderzombie and ArsenalFan700 please put your thoughts for this fellow user Iamfarzan, after all he's a new user may be not much rules and guidelines are not known, though I've addressed the user in multiple occasion of various guidelines and ofcorse seems passionate of keeping the article. Drat8sub (talk) 04:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

hello all, can I know how to solve this. Iamfarzan (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Manjappada has gained prominence with its innovative approach. They were able to reignite football passion in Kerala also with its spread out of Kerala they were able to re live football among Kerala diaspora out of Kerala. They are always in forefront in contributing to society. With all these contributions no wonder they have won best fans club in India. What make this special is they have beaten Cricket fans groups like Bharath Army, Mumbai Indian fans, RCB fans. A article in Wikipedia would be an information for many fans groups to get inspired. These fans groups helps people follow sports and thereby we can see a change in sports activities in India. So I think they need a independent article. thats why me and my friend created Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans. Iamfarzan (talk) 07:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

It's clear from your point of view and the article you created that your purpose for creating wikipedia page is promotional. As suggested, please look at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and create a draft page for Manjappada with neutral point of view, which can then be submitted for Wikipedia:Articles for creation and if approved can be taken to main article space. Hope you understand. Coderzombie (talk) 09:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Iamfarzan, I think you really don't understand what I said, I told you to make comment specifically to why the article should be kept per "guidelines and policies", not on exaggerated praise and above that I'd multiple times brought to your notice the regarding guideliens and mentioned above also but instead you are sticking to exaggeration.

Anyway, Coderzombie, I think I will make a draft of the article in a fresh way, as the fan group has more or less significant coverage. I also want to bring to your notice that this article The Juggernauts (Ultras) is total promotional article, so can it be speedy delete per WP:G11 of WP:CSD or WP:PROD is the best way. Drat8sub (talk) 16:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Agree with both points, Drat8sub, we can create a draft for Manjappada and get it to AfC. The Juggernauts seems completely promotional. I have tagged with G11, let's see. Coderzombie (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan A.C. should be moved as ATK Mohun Bagan and New Kolkata ISL team should be deleted

Since the owners of newly merged club said that the Legacy of Bagan will be retained including the logo and jersey ,there is no need of a new page such as New Kolkata ISL team. Drat8sub please consider. Shahoodu. (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC). this

Let's not jump the gun just yet. This will require discussion and consensus. Coderzombie (talk) 12:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree with it, ISL and Mohun Bagan themselves have published logo and jersey as unchanged. ArsenalFan700, your thoughts. Drat8sub (talk) 16:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

It's simply the Mohun Bagan club with its shareholder name included, as for any club when it's shares are bought by any company. AFC too address the club is going with the 130 years history MB. Drat8sub (talk) 16:52, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Goenka's word (ref) "We have gone with the Maroon and Green jersey. We have gone with the existing logo and the name of the club will be ATK Mohun Bagan". We just need to rename Mohun Bagan page as ATK Mohun Bagan as the logo is same and jersey is same and they are going with legacy of 130 years history of Mohun Bagan. Those new pages are redundant. Drat8sub (talk) 17:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I think we should wait this out as it is not nearly clear enough yet. I want to see what happens with the Mohun Bagan youth teams and the CFL. Will Mohun Bagan field a team in the CFL or will ATK Mohun Bagan? Also, they are both still acting as separate entities on facebook and twitter. I want to see how this plays out before saying this is really still Mohun Bagan and not a separate entity. All things are leading towards a separate entity though. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

ATK's twitter handle did not mention anything on their behalf, just retweeted those Mohun Bagan AFC, ISL and MB's tweet. So, their handle will be there for retweeting I think. And seeing the current situation CFL will hardly be a reality in 2020. Drat8sub (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

ArsenalFan700, I think we need to look at AFC Ajax, as Amsterdamsche FC merged to Football Club Ajax, there is no seperate page for the Football Club Ajax. Above that Amsterdamsche FC plays as Amateurs of Ajax. So simply we can follow the existing articles. Drat8sub (talk) 18:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Another point can also be seen, Mohun Bagan Official T-shirt is there in Amazon, if it were new entity then the club would not have sold Mohun Bagan jersey. All things are pointed to the same. Drat8sub (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

The jersey is being sold by Mohun Bagan AC, not this new entity. It is hard to make a decision on that alone. Also, are you sure about the Ajax thing? I see nothing referenced about Ajax in the Amsterdamsche page and nothing about Amsterdamsche in the Ajax page. Also, there are over-30 year olds in the Amsterdamsche page. Also, the ATK twitter page did post about it themselves. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Amsterdamsche was formed around same time in 1895 here and was known as AFC. Here Ajax club was known as Football Club Ajax in 1893 and reformed as Amsterdamsche FC Ajax in 1900. So far I know. Drat8sub (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Its a brand new club. logo might be similar, but that doesnt mean same club. goenka has confirmed they will play in all other leagues as atkmb. there's no source which says atkmb is same as mb or atk. even the owners in interviews cleared the doubts that its different. (check this). the tshirt is sod by mbac. mbac is a different entity (also 19.8% shareholder of atkmb). that doesnt mean atkmb = mb. no idea, why this question still arises. WP:NPOV should be followed. ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

we cant consider it similar to ajax. that's 200-year-old history. also, there's nothing written in the article as such. ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

ArsenalFan700, they have also posted the press release. both the pages might be active simultaneously. ❯❯❯ S A H A 06:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

thing is mb page will continue as multi sports (add more updates), and atkmb as football only. also please someone update atkmb staff to be same as other indian teams template (manager instead of head coach, less locking page rather ban longer!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.174.145 (talk) 17:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Here are some straight facts:

♦Logo: Existing logo 1
Colour:Exisitng green Maroon 1

♦Mohun Bagan facilities to be used and will be upgraded icluding Mohun Bagan Ground.2

History/legacy: Mohun Bagan's 130+ year 3

♦Name:ATK Mohun Bagan 1
♦Reason: A majority share stays with Goenka (68%), for which the ATK is added. Srinjoy Bose/Debashis Dutta: It has been done everytime a company buys share, it became tradition...similarly we had McDowell's Mohun Bagan as United Breweries Group bought 49% share in 1998, similarly done with East Bengal...Kingfisher bought East Bengal share or Quess (70%) for East Bengal45

So, new entity for sure as new share holder and for sporting license but its still the same club that the team represents.

♦Irony... the East Bengal fan Arnab, who is commenting above about new entity, should have made another page for both of the East Bengal entities when Kingfisher and Quess was there. East Bengal's football team was playing under the license given to the "East Bengal Pvt. Ltd" without any extra shareholder. When Kingfisher came East Bengal name and logo both were changed and different entity were formed. The entity was then called "United East Bengal Football Team Private Limited" 6 and when Quess was there the entity was "Quess East Bengal Fc Pvt. Ltd" 78. So according to that, a separate page should be created for "Kingfisher East Bengal" and "Quess East Bengal" as these are separate entities than East Bengal.

♦Shares: Why a separate company made everytime..because per rules the registered company get the sporting license for which the team plays. And everytime a share holder of the club change, the license also shifts to the newly registered company. So Mohun Bagan will play under the sporting license given to the ATK-Mohun Bagan Pvt. Ltd. Above that, its a contract, not a permanent thing, with this 5 year contract period anyone can sold its share except share of "Mohun Bagan F.C. India Pvt. Ltd.(MBFCPL)", owner company of Mohun Bagan football team, which is 19.98 of "ATK Mohun Bagan Pvt. Ltd.(ATKMB)". Again "Mohun Bagan Society (MBAC)" has also a permanent share of 70% of MBFCPL's share i.e, 15.2% share of ATKMB. But "Kolkata Games and Sports Pvt. Ltd.(KGSP)" who is owner of ATK football team does not have any share of in ATKMB, the share is of Goenka i,e RP-Sanjiv Goenka Group.9, 10

I don't see why there is a need of any new article when starting from logo, history, colour to ground is of Mohun Bagan and there is no share of KGSP the owner of ATK football team. And if this article is created, I'm afraid we need to create McDowell Mohun Bagan, Kingfisher East Bengal, Quess East Bengal.Drat8sub (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

for ur kind information, mcdowells, kingfisher, quess arent football clubs, and mohun bagan/east bengal didn't merge with these companies. but, atk and MB did merge. no idea, how merge = investment? (i hope this helps)

atkmb is a whole club. atk and MB arent separate from 1st June. also,

• major shareholder - atk
• chairman - goenka
• squad - atk
• coach - atk
• technical staff - atk
• directors - 3 of atk.

how the colour matters? any team can have any colour. so, as per the colour theory, east bengal = Galatasaray, since both have same colour.

so, dont support MB blindly (although its atkmb now) and follow WP:NPOV. WP:V, WP:RS and no WP:OR please. utsav parekh interview, where its clearly mentioned, atkmb in 2020, and not 1889/2014. debashis Dutta interview, saying the same. also this ❯❯❯   S A H A 08:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Correcting your information, major share holder is not atk, its Goenka..his company "RP-Sanjiv Goenka Group", "Kolkata Games and Sports Pvt. Ltd." (KGSP) does not have any share in it. Merge equal to investment, again your version, I did not say that, I said the atk entity KGSP does not have any share of it. Squad/Coach/Staff are independent of their status, they don't belong to anyone, they sign contracts. So, don't just tell anything everything that comes in mind. That is exactly call WP:OR. Drat8sub (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

You are pointing out something which I've never pointed out as that does not matter, this. Above that you were talking about WP:RS, I don't think you read RS, do you, from your above citation and comment, it seems either you have not read those policies or you are simply INCOMPETENT. FIY if you don't have primary, you can use secondary sources, you can't ignore. Why colour is important its well mentioned in my above comments. Colour is identity and is a indentity of brand Mohun Bagan. Does not matter if colour matches with another clubs, India's tri colour matches that of Ireland and Ivory coast, still tri-colour is our identity. You are simply WP:GASLIGHTING and WP:OWN the article. Drat8sub (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Third, "support MB", this is the third time you are responding to tone and accusing me. Trust me if I find any more such commentary I will open ANI, then keep on answering them until a block. Height of insanity. Don't presume others as your rival or against you, just because they have differences of opinions. Drat8sub (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

According, to your video source provided above debashis Dutta interview, Dutta clearly says its Mohun Bagan and Goenka has the responsibilty to take club forward as Tutu Bose did. You, yourself contradicting your own source. Drat8sub (talk) 16:21, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I can also go for ANI, but I won't, coz I don't want to. as I said earlier, u should first learn wiki policies and then say others. i again request u not to do any personal attacks, no gaming the system, following neutral point of view, no accusing others.

and none of ur sources prove atkmb = MB. (neither any official source in the world mentions the same) and u missed the main part of the interviews, "ATKMB is a new club, founded in 2020, and not in 1889. so its illegal to mention 1889" ❯❯❯   S A H A 16:55, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

also, u didnt say merge = investment, then what is the whole Irony section about? (personal attack at its peak) ❯❯❯   S A H A 17:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Drat8sub:, @ArnabSaha:, both of you have valid arguments, so let's stick to it and refrain from personal attacks and arguments. Coderzombie (talk) 16:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

drat understand that mb is multi sports club, but only football team renamed. thats why new page is needed! and its clear atk let them be identity leaders so no point in tones of text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.173.168 (talk) 18:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Arnab as I said you are gaslighting, again and again you are misquoting Dutta's word and adding your personal views. Coderzombie, I don't know if you know Bengali or not, if you know please watch the interview. Dutta clearly says, "Eishamay (newspaper) an entity of Times of India group which has different establishment year, cannot put TOI's establishment year in its logo, similarly ATK Mohun Bagan also cannot put established in 1889 in their logo." What else you want to understand, Arnab? Your quote "ATKMB is a new club", which was never said by Dutta and is misleading. Above that the interviewer a journalist following Dutta's comment clearing our that, "You (to the viewers) need to understand, the entity is new and is a part of Mohun Bagan club, Mohun Bagan has the dominance in it."

Similarly, Quess East Bengal and Kingfisher East Bengal did not have a establishment date in their logo. So does it mean its representing a different club. I don't see an answer of it. I have mentioned above just like "ATK Mohun Bagan Pvt. Ltd." the new entity formed, similarly, entities like "Quess East Bengal Fc Pvt. Ltd (QEBFP)" was formed and "United East Bengal Football Team Private Limited" too, who had the football license not the club. I don't see a separate article for these entities. Entities are not club, they are company formed to represent a club in a tournament and sporting rights goes to the company formed not East Bengal or Mohun Bagan. ATK Mohun Bagan represent Mohun Bagan, as in the interview in starting 4 minutes Dutta clealrly says its all about Mohun Bagan. Above that its evident from the fact that, ATK MB's share does not have the owner of atk, i.e, "Kolkata Games and Sports Pvt. Ltd.(KGSP)" as its share holder, but have share of "Mohun Bagan F.C. India Pvt. Ltd" (Owner of MB) as 19.998%. So when there is no share of atk's owner where is the fuss. And don't mislead by saying Goenka is owner of atk, Goenka is share holder of ATK, ATK's owner is KGSP, just like East Bengal's owner was not Quess, but QEBFP. Drat8sub (talk) 18:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Ip users, football team renamed earlier also and records are kept in the existing article, McDowell MB, Quess EB, Kingfisher EB, we don't create article for everytime the team renamed for sponsorship/shareholder/finances, we keep records in same page as it represents the same club. Mohun Bagan Athletic club has been keeping records of football team always, in this case too there is no need of separate page. Drat8sub (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

so how about new logo which isnt athletic club but fc...new page with copied history is best solution! thats why atk said "just give us 3 letters" and stop reverting if no answer told you i can post for truth forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.73.212 (talk) 17:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan A.C. (new discussion)

Hi, I started a new requested move for Mohun Bagan A.C. to ATK Mohun Bagan FC. See discussion here. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 02:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

East Bengal FC or East Bengal F.C.

Calling on Drat8sub (talk · contribs) Coderzombie (talk · contribs) ArnabSaha (talk · contribs) here. You guys are the top users I can remember off the top of my head, we can notify others if necessary. Just wanted to discuss this with you guys, what do you guys think of moving East Bengal F.C. to East Bengal FC? This isn't the same as the Mohun Bagan move discussions, this is more about what the style should be for Indian football articles. I'll be honest, I am the one who originally moved the East Bengal page from Kingfisher East Bengal FC to East Bengal F.C. in 2013 because I copied what we did with English football clubs, there was no reasoning other than that (and removing sponsored naming, I was 16). Now though, we see differences across the globe. Spanish articles don't use the "." in the names, same with Japanese, Australian, Korean, Qatari, American, Canadian, Brazilian, Saudi, and German clubs.

For India, all the Indian Super League teams officially don't use F.C. but instead use FC. See the league's official website for this. East Bengal specifically is mentioned in the article on the website without the "." source. Addtionally, on social media, every club in the ISL besides Chennaiyin but including East Bengal use FC without the dots. Even reliable independent sources address the club as "East Bengal FC" and not East Bengal F.C.. See sources here and here. Right now we already have all the Indian Super League teams named without the dots, should we do the same with East Bengal? I already have seen the rumor that the club might be renamed "SC East Bengal" but let's wait until that is official and instead focus on F.C. vs FC. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 06:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I think every other news or web article uses FC instead of F.C...I will not mind if all the club pages are changed to FC. But wait for the East Bengal page a while, it's going to be SreeCement East Bengal. Drat8sub (talk) 12:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Career stats tables fro ATK and Mohun Bagan players

Hey everyone - was there a discussion about how this should appear in players' stats tables? I cannot find if there was. I just added a 2020–21 stat line to Roy Krishna's article and wanted to see if there was a consensus on if it should be set up like I have done. I identified ATK and ATK Mohun Bagan as separate clubs in the stats table but have it that the total stats are combined as one. Is this correct or do we think they should be totally separate? Thanks all! Rupert1904 (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

New kits for ISL clubs

Hi. There is a change in kit design for Hyderabad FC this season. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get the new kit template for this? Any kind of help is really appreciated and if anyone knows how to do the wiki template for the new kits, please message here or at my talk page. I also observed that some current season pages doesn't have any kit design added in the infobox. It would be great if there's someone who can work on all the teams' kits. Thanks. SaGa (talk) 01:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion regarding "What is a fully professional league" + inclusion criteria

A discussion regarding "What is a fully professional league" based on WP:NFOOTY inclusion criteria (relevant to this task force) is going on here:

• What is a fully professional league (December 2020)

Input and ideas are welcome. Hmlarson (talk) 20:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion about "List of international goals scored by [insert player name here]"

A discussion about list articles about individual players' international goals (e.g., "List of international goals scored by [insert player name here]" ) is currently active and relevant to Indian football-related articles and their editors:

• Status of "List of international goals scored by X" lists Hmlarson (talk) 18:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

eb technical staff

there should be small letter for each second word of particular position per grammar/infobox (Head coach...etc) Please fix if sine locked page. And if other teams can be checked! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.135.184 (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Cleanup needed - possible duplicate article

While doing article cleanup, I found these two

• Gurdev Singh Gill - created 6 February 2011‎, "Start" class, probably the "good" article
• Gurdev Singh (footballer) - created 3 March 2008, "Stub" class, may be about same person? Gurdev Singh Gill

Can someone here look at both please? The (footballer) second article, delete?

Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 17:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

@JoeNMLC: yes, looks like the same person, I'll create a redirect. Coderzombie (talk) 06:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

urgent vandalism attack

I league cant have durand in infobox as not all clubs play so not mandatory...stop user sinan or i keep reporting — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportski recenzist (talk • contribs) 12:47, 29 May 2022 (UTC)