Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink/Cheeses task force

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UK cheese template edit

I just added {{British cheeses}} to this project and to all relevant cheese articles in the United Kingdom. I have a question. I have only added unique cheese types but have steered clear of branded cheeses such as Cathedral City Cheddar. I think that is the right thing to do. What I am unsure of is whether to include unique brands such as Huntsman cheese, which is a combination of two cheeses sold under a brand name, or Applewood cheese which is a variation of Cheddar, but is not branded. Advice would be welcome. --TimTay (talk) 11:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Coordinators' working group edit

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Cazelle de Saint Affrique edit

Today I began an article on this cheese. Just FYI. Seduisant (talk) 19:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Misreading the MoS - Parentheses in article names edit

I note that that this taskforce's page states that where article names may be ambiguous the "Manual of Style method is to append "cheese", in parenthesis, to the article name (eg. Pont-l'Évêque (cheese)‎, from the French town of Pont-l'Évêque)". This isn't true. The MoS actually states that the use of parentheses is the "most common" method of disambiguating pages with exactly the same common name, not that it is mandatory or actually the best way. This group's use of parentheses actually contradicts the guidelines at WP:COMMONNAME. "XXX (cheese)" is not the common name for any cheese. For most, simply appending "cheese" after the district or type name is a much better method and produces a neutral, descriptive name that is far more logical and intuitive (most people will put "XXX cheese" into the search box, after all, while I'm fairly confident that none will type "XXX (cheese)"). This follows the common and sensible practice adopted for most other foodstuffs, such as Cumberland sausage and steak and kidney pie. I propose removing this misleading guideline from the taskforce page and slowly making the transition to more intuitive article names as people have time to fix redirects. Pyrope 17:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

I second this, some cheeses have the name "cheese" or equivalent always attached to them. Ie: Oaxaca Cheese. It is Oaxaca Cheese in English and the Spanish equivalent (the language of the country it originates from). This seriously needs to be reconsidered as it confuses the commonly known name with the name given to it by a small taskforce in the name of standarization. For example, Italian sausage wouldn't be retitled Italian (sausage), Superman -> Super (man), Cuban espresso -> Cuban (espresso) and Coca-cola -> Coca (cola)/Coca-cola (cola). Its part of the name of the foodstuff, not just a description. Anyhow, If this is not addressed, I plan to bring it up at ANI. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 06:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
No real need for ANI, that's what this talk page is for. Unless anyone opposes the change in the next, ooh, let's say two days, just go ahead and make the change. Pyrope 16:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Right, in the absence of any contrary voices I have amended the guidelines to a less dogmatic, more intuitive wording. Hopefully this should curb the overzealous. Pyrope 16:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Work's for me. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 08:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
As re-written, I can agree with it. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 17:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

And yet, and yet, and yet. Sheesh. Lots of cleaning up generated in the last 24 hours I'm afraid... Pyrope 15:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Advice transcribed from talk page: "When you move the articles could you please tag the redirects with {{Soft redirect|name of redirect}} and {{wpfood|cheeses=yes|class=redirect}}? The food projects like to keep an eye on the redirects so if any one moves them or re-tasks them we are aware so we can add hat notes or poke our heads in and say "hey, this needs to be discussed..." TYVM --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 20:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)." The tag and banner should be placed on the redirect page's talk page. (e.g. Talk:Tilsit (cheese)). Pyrope 21:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)Reply


I have restored those article names I could find from "Foo (cheese)" to "Foo cheese". SilkTork *YES! 09:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Common sense prevails. --Simple Bob (talk) 22:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Case of cheese name within body of article edit

Should a cheese's name always be used in upper case in its article? I contend that it should, so Cheddar cheese (or Brie, or Camambert) is always referred to as "Cheddar" within the body of the article and is not reduced to lower case if not at the start of a sentence. It is a proper name for a product and should always be in upper case. Do the members of this taskforce concur? --Simple Bob (talk) 22:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Any cheese that takes its name from a place should be capitalized, that is old-fashioned grammar. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 00:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
Good point. So Cheddar, Cheshire, Camembert, etc. should be in upper case, but cottage and feta cheeses should not. --Simple Bob (talk) 15:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ark of Taste edit

I've added a list of about 800 foods, including many cheeses, to the Ark of Taste article. Ark of Taste is a catalogue of endangered foods from Slow Food International. Many of the foods listed are red linked. Some just need to be disambiguated, but others could use articles if anyone feels up to creating them. The lists on the article can be sorted and cheeses are found under cheeses and dairy products. There's a category for the foods as well at Category:Ark of Taste foods. Gobonobo T C 13:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Quite a few of the red links exist despite there being articles in existence because the wrong link is used e.g. Gloucester Cheese instead of Gloucester cheese. While I applaud your work in doing this, a little more care would avoid some of this. I have corrected the UK ones. --Simple Bob (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

WP 1.0 bot announcement edit

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Cheeses articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release edit

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Washed-rind vs Smear-ripened edit

Hello, I started categorizing some cheeses before I saw you had a cheese task force set up. If anyone has any comments at Talk:Washed-rind_cheese, I'd be happy to hear from you. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 17:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Food article collaboration edit

I've started a collaboration page for food articles, located at User:Northamerica1000/Food articles. All editors in good standing should feel free to contribute there and work together to improve food-related articles. Check it out! Northamerica1000(talk) 22:08, 1 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

AfC submission edit

Here's an article submission you might want to check out. Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 13:06, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Chhena edit

Is it possible for this article to be increased from stub status? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chhena — Preceding unsigned comment added by Platypusrock (talkcontribs) 02:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Reply