Wikipedia talk:Why is BFDI not on Wikipedia?/Archive 2

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Listing BFDI in a filmography

Hello, I have a question. If a notable person has acted in BFDI, and the role isn't verified by reliable third-party sources (but verified by non-independent ones), can it still be mentioned in a filmography section? TomSka has voiced Pineapple from BFDIA 10 and a few editors have tried to add it there, I reverted two of them (since I recall receiving advice from WP:IRCHELP about requiring independent sources for filmographies most of the time), but I have been re-reverted. I can't see much guidance about the use of non-independent reliable sources at WP:FILMOGRAPHY. ObserveOwl (chit-chatmy doings) 02:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't be too selective unless they have had been in a lot of roles. TomSka already has a huge filmography section, so requiring independent sources should narrow down the important entries. Ca talk to me! 01:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Well in a regard the creators of bfdi did alot, even as children 89.184.63.87 (talk) 09:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Adressing ≠ explaining

It explains that the webcomic homestuck which has almost the same qualities of bfdi and its notability but homestuck does not get the treatment bfdi does, as it does not differ enough from bfdi to warrant better representation

Tldr it makes it seem as though the editors just posted this on to the essay just so they could delete bfdi off of wikipedia

89.184.63.99 (talk) 21:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Btw most company made shows dont do notable, but are on wikipedia 89.184.62.59 (talk) 22:15, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
In the essay it says homestuck is notable, because it's had large media attention. I love BFDI, but it's not notable. Row666 (talk) 07:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Well i agree, but i think the reasons why bfdi isn’t notable isn’t about the whole show itself, and more about how it was brought up, it was born on youtube, growing the show took 3 years, with it coming back after 3 more years, making it so that there wasn’t a need for large media attention as it wasn’t a runaway hit.
take Tadc for example, the reason it had large media was because it had topped the charts of youtube and made millions of hits, which is different to bfdi, for example the reason bfdi 1 was so popular (at 60M) was because it was the first video made for bfdi, and many people watched it, not many liked it, it was seen as “childish and immature” which made sense (they were teens at the time), so that means even if media coverage came they would (probably) right it off as childish.
even though people like the show, and create lots of fanmade content, it is not notable.
so therefore bfdi is not notable because of this (not because of hate) 89.184.63.121 (talk) 23:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Side note: homestuck isn’t really as good as a comparison, as something else like smg4, since smg4 had a large fanbase, but smg4 was deleted off of wikipedia, for having no notable sources (partially due to the fact smg4 took on the same role back then as Glitch Productions does now, but since it gained popularity, smg4 didn’t [require] need a wikipedia page)
that aspect didn’t have to do with anything with the show, more its situations 89.184.63.121 (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)