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In the news

61 BC: In Rome, Pompey the Great (pictured) celebrated triumphs over pirates in the eastern Mediterranean Sea and in the war against king Mithridates VI of Pontus in Asia Minor, with enormous parades of spoils, prisoners, army and banners depicting battle scenes. It was also his 45th birthday.

the link to triumph should be changed to Roman triumph.--Panairjdde 09:08, 29 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Done. -- PFHLai 18:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: John Roberts (maintenance)
Omitted: Kyshtym disaster; Alouette 1; University of East Anglia
Included: British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) (first appearance); Babi Yar (8th appearance, last in 2010); CERN (7th appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Metropolitan Police Service (9th consecutive appearance, 9 total); Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:58, 28 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Alouette 1 (maintenance)
Omitted: Babi Yar; CERN; Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: The Sorrows of Young Werther (first appearance); Kyshtym disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2011); University of East Anglia (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Metropolitan Police Service (10th consecutive appearance, 10 total); British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 90th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): John Roberts
Omitted: Metropolitan Police Service (ineligible—maintenance); Kyshtym disaster; University of East Anglia
Included: Babi Yar (9th appearance, last in 2012); Alouette 1 (3rd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (3rd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: The Sorrows of Young Werther (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:55, 28 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Munich Agreement
Omitted: British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument); Babi Yar; Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907
Included: 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision (first appearance; 75th anniversary); Kyshtym disaster (3rd appearance, last in 2013); John Roberts (first appearance; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: The Sorrows of Young Werther (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Alouette 1 (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision; Kyshtym disaster; Alouette 1; John Roberts
Included: British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument) (4th appearance, last in 2014); Babi Yar (10th appearance, last in 2014; 75th anniversary); University of East Anglia (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (4th appearance, last in 2014; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: The Sorrows of Young Werther (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:01, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): The Catch (baseball)
New articles (unused): Lockheed YF-22
Omitted: The Sorrows of Young Werther (ineligible—maintenance); British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument); Babi Yar; University of East Anglia; Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907
Included: Battle of St Quentin Canal/Hindenburg Line (both: first appearance); 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Kyshtym disaster (4th appearance, last in 2015; 60th anniversary); Alouette 1 (5th appearance, last in 2015); 1991 Haitian coup d'état (first appearance); Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson (2nd appearance, last in 2004; previously appeared on October 21); Guadalupe Victoria (first appearance); W. H. Auden (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 01:46, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: John Roberts (maintenance)
Omitted: 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision; Kyshtym disaster; Alouette 1; Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson; Guadalupe Victoria; W. H. Auden
Included: Munich Agreement (6th appearance, last in 2010; 80th anniversary); The Catch (baseball) (first appearance); Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (5th appearance, last in 2016); Ferdinand the Holy Prince (first appearance); Mercator Cooper (first appearance); Bill Shankly (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of St Quentin Canal/Hindenburg Line (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 100th anniversary); 1991 Haitian coup d'état (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:23, 1 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Michael A. Monsoor
Omitted: Battle of St Quentin Canal/Hindenburg Line; Munich Agreement; 1991 Haitian coup d'état; Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907; Ferdinand the Holy Prince; Mercator Cooper; Bill Shankly
Included: Mandate for Palestine (5th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Babi Yar (11th appearance, last in 2016); University of East Anglia (4th appearance, last in 2016); Lockheed YF-22 (first appearance); William of Tyre (first appearance); Jim Baxter (first appearance; 80th birthday); Kevin Durant (first appearance)
Repeats: The Catch (baseball) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 22:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: 1991 Haitian coup d'état (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Valston Hancock (TFA for 2020)
Omitted: Babi Yar; The Catch (baseball); William of Tyre; Jim Baxter; Kevin Durant
Included: 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); Alouette 1 (6th appearance, last in 2017); René Goupil (first appearance); Guadalupe Victoria (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Michael A. Monsoor (first appearance)
Repeats: Mandate for Palestine (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); University of East Anglia (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Lockheed YF-22 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:12, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Deleted: Munich Agreement (moved to September 30)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Valston Hancock
Omitted: Mandate for Palestine; 1940 Brocklesby mid-air collision; Alouette 1; University of East Anglia; Lockheed YF-22; René Goupil; Guadalupe Victoria; Michael A. Monsoor
Included: Finland during the Great Northern War (first appearance); Metropolitan Police (11th appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Babi Yar (12th appearance, last in 2019); The Catch (baseball) (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Beauty and the Beast (1991 film) (first appearance; 30th anniversary); Arnaud Amalric (first appearance); Elizabeth Gaskell (first appearance); Bill Shankly (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary)

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