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Today's featured article for November 29, 2024

Santa Cruz entering the field before a game in Belém

The Suicidal Tour took place when Brazilian professional football club Santa Cruz Futebol Clube toured the North Region of Brazil from 2 January 1943 to 29 April 1943. Over almost four months, they played either 26 or 28 friendly matches in six cities. The tour gained its name due to the misfortunes endured by the club. Looking to recover from a financial crisis, Santa Cruz arranged five matches in Belém, Pará. Traveling up the Amazon River for another round of matches, they first started experiencing problems in Manaus, where two players left to play for other clubs and seven members of the team's delegation caught dysentery. Two players went on to catch typhoid fever and died. Unable to return home through the sea, and needing to cover growing costs, Santa Cruz had to return to Recife by land, playing matches along the way to earn money. The return had further problems, including a fake arrest warrant for a player, a trip alongside thieves, and two train derailments. (Full article...)

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Picture of the day for November 29, 2024

The Rose of Persia; or, The Story-Teller and the Slave, is a two-act comic opera, with music by Arthur Sullivan and a libretto by Basil Hood. It premiered at the Savoy Theatre on 29 November 1899, closing on 28 June 1900 after a profitable run of 211 performances. The opera then toured, had a brief run in America and played elsewhere throughout the English-speaking world.

Painting credit: Dudley Hardy; restored by Adam Cuerden

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2012 notes

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: National Diet (maintenance); Richard E. Byrd (maintenance)
Omitted: Zong Massacre; Eureka Flag; Sand Creek massacre (ineligible—maintenance); Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831; Manila Peninsula rebellion
Included: Natchez Massacre (first appearance); Battle of Fort Cumberland (first appearance); FC Barcelona (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Pong (2nd appearance, last in 2008; 40th anniversary); Korean Air Flight 858 (4th appearance, last in 2010; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (maintenance)
Added then deleted: Manila (already featured on June 24)
Omitted: Natchez Massacre; Battle of Fort Cumberland; FC Barcelona; Pong; Korean Air Flight 858
Included: Papal conclave, 1549–50 (first appearance); San Jose, California (5th appearance, last in 2010); National Diet (8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831 (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 50th anniversary); Manila Peninsula rebellion (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 08:43, 28 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Papal conclave, 1549–50; San Jose, California; Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831; Manila Peninsula siege
Included: Zong massacre (4th appearance, last in 2011); Sand Creek massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible; 150th anniversary); United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Pong (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: National Diet (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Zong massacre; Sand Creek massacre; National Diet; Pong
Included: Natchez revolt (first appearance); Whitman massacre (first appearance; rescued from Ineligibe); Eureka Flag (5th appearance, last in 2011); Korean Air Flight 858 (5th appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Omitted: Natchez revolt; Whitman massacre; Eureka Flag; United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; Korean Air Flight 858
Included: Papal conclave, 1549–50 (2nd appearance, last in 2013); FC Barcelona (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Richard E. Byrd (4th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831; (3rd appearance, last in 2013); United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19 (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 09:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Following a complaint at WP:ERRORS, Byrd tagged and returned to ineligible - too much unreferenced material. Zong massacre added back. Bencherlite ^Talk 18:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: San Jose, California (maintenance); Eureka Flag (maintenance); National Diet (maintenance)
New articles (unused): LaMia Flight 2933
Omitted: Papal conclave, 1549–50; Natchez revolt; Zong massacre; FC Barcelona; Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831; United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19
Included: Battle of Fort Cumberland (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Transfer of the Portuguese Court to Brazil (first appearance); United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (8th appearance, last in 2015; 70th anniversary); Korean Air Flight 858 (6th appearance, last in 2015; 30th anniversary); Manila Peninsula siege (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 10th anniversary); Claudio Monteverdi (first appearance); Christian Doppler (first appearance); Adam Clayton Powell Jr. (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: LaMia Flight 2933 (moved to November 28)
Omitted: Battle of Fort Cumberland; Transfer of the Portuguese Court to Brazil; United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine; Korean Air Flight 858; Manila Peninsula siege; Claudio Monteverdi; Christian Doppler; Adam Clayton Powell Jr.
Included: Battle of Hama (first appearance); Zong massacre (6th appearance, last in 2016); Whitman massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Pong (4th appearance, last in 2014); United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19 (2nd appearance, last in 2016); George Brown (Canadian politician) (first appearance); Mary Somerville (first appearance); Emma Morano (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:01, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Janet Smith (judge)
Omitted: Battle of Hama; Zong massacre; Whitman massacre; Pong; United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19; George Brown (Canadian politician); Mary Somerville; Emma Morano
Included: Liberation Day (Albania) (rescued from Ineligible); Natchez revolt (4th appearance, last in 2016); Transfer of the Portuguese court to Brazil (2nd appearance, last in 2017); National Diet (10th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831 (4th appearance, last in 2016); Manila Peninsula siege (4th appearance, last in 2017); John Felton (assassin) (first appearance); Public Universal Friend (first appearance); Yōichi Masuzoe (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:03, 30 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Natchez revolt; Transfer of the Portuguese court to Brazil (ineligible—maintenance); National Diet; Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight 831; Manila Peninsula siege; John Felton (assassin); Public Universal Friend; Yōichi Masuzoe
Included: 1549–50 papal conclave (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Eureka Flag (6th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); FC Barcelona (4th appearance, last in 2016); Pong (5th appearance, last in 2018); Korean Air Flight 858 (7th appearance, last in 2017); Amos Bronson Alcott (first appearance); Artur Phleps (first appearance); Janet Smith (judge) (first appearance; 80th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 02:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: John Felton (assassin) (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Abdullah Cevdet
Omitted: 1549–50 papal conclave; Eureka Flag; FC Barcelona; Pong; Korean Air Flight 858; Amos Bronson Alcott; Artur Phleps; Janet Smith (judge)
Included: Battle of Hama (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Fort Cumberland (1776) (3rd appearance, last in 2017); National Diet (11th appearance, last in 2019); Manila Peninsula siege (5th appearance, last in 2019); Claudio Monteverdi (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Mary Somerville (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Lalit Modi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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