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Can we reduce the number of RfDs transcluded on this page?
editThis page already gets very large and is very difficult to scroll and navigate, especially on lower end devices like phones. I think we should maybe take the approach that is done at AfD and only list all of the nominations on subpages. We can have a bot update the counters for the number of open RfDs on a given day. I did some stuff in user space and found that we could reduce the post expand include size from about 1,000,000 to just above 100,000 (about ten times) if we just linked to each RfD nomination rather than transcluding them. Awesome Aasim 17:51, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also see Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 16#RfD is getting too long for listing in a single page, needs break-up like AfD. Jay 💬 17:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Subpages make it much harder to navigate and to track changes to discussions. If we got rid of the missing-space RDAB redirects (see WT:CSD#Improper disambiguation redirects) then the volume of nominations would be much more manageable. Thryduulf (talk) 12:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, for the record. The following explain my stance:
- ...In other words, a lot of work has already been put into RfD's current setup, splitting it up into nomination subpages has been rejected in the past, the current situation is temporary, it was a lot worse when all nomination headers were listed in the table of contents, and ... dang, I just realized all that work to improve RfD's structure happened in 2017. How time flies. Steel1943 (talk) 21:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- ...A temporary solution is indeed one of the more permanent types of solution. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I meant "temporary" in the sense of the amount of nominations currently at RFD, not in regards to the solution. Steel1943 (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I must've misread. Sorry. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I meant "temporary" in the sense of the amount of nominations currently at RFD, not in regards to the solution. Steel1943 (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- ...A temporary solution is indeed one of the more permanent types of solution. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with this. On slower connections this page takes ages to load, and I imagine it's very slow when scrolling on lower-end devices. I don't think we should just keep saying it's been discussed before and ignore the problem. C F A 💬 21:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- What is your network speed? Jay 💬 05:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- It loads fine when I'm at home on 80+ mb/s. But when I'm editing in public on a hotspot this page takes anywhere from 5 to 10+ seconds to load which is very long compared to AfD, for example. C F A 💬 00:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- What is your network speed? Jay 💬 05:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I will also note that, like a growing number of editors, I use Convenient Discussions, which grinds to a halt on the RfD main page due to the sheer volume of comments it has to format. I do recognize that other editors might not care about the quirks of a script that is not that widely used, but it's something to consider. This issue arises on very few other large talk pages like ANI. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm all in favour of any changes that enhance performance, user experience and make it more usable on mobile devices. However, as Thryduulf mentioned, an AfD-style process would make it harder to access individual discussions, and reduce participation. How about have the main RfD page have only the current + previous day's entries (since different parts of the world are always on two different dates), with the backlog dates collapsed, assuming they get loaded only when Expand is selected? Jay 💬 10:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
"Wikipedia:RFDd10" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect Wikipedia:RFDd10 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 11 § Wikipedia:RFDd10 until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Echoing, readers of this page are welcome to comment... on the page tabbed to the left. Quite the journey I hear :v Utopes (talk / cont) 07:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Deleted template
editTemplate:Deleted template has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. (the nominated template is used in {{Redirect for discussion/core}}) Nickps (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at WT:Deletion process § Deletion sorting should be advertised on all XFD venues. Nickps (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
"How to table..." unreadable in dark mode
editHaving the cell colour of the How to list a redirect for discussion table hard coded to be white causes most of the text to be unreadable in dark mode, as the font colour is changed to a light grey. Dark mode is still in beta, and you can switch back to standard mode to make it readable, but thought it worth highlighting. Little pob (talk) 16:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)