Wikipedia talk:Friendly

Welcome in sections

I think it would really help if all the welcome templates in Twinkle were placed in a == Section ==

This gets users off to a good start; if the welcome is not in a section, it leads them to think that is normal on a talk page.

Putting the 'welcome' message into a headed section gets them used to the concept more quickly, and avoids confusion down the line.  Chzz  ►  14:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Saw your temporary posting on Twinkle (I've made the same mistake lol), and you have my support. It only makes sense that every topic have its own level 2 header, even welcomes. Hmm... actually, it looks like this is more complex since some templates (see discussion directly above this one) add the Welcome header automatically. There is probably a lack of standards between templates and Friendly using those templates. If Friendly were to add a header, there may be cases where two headers are created. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 16:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there definitely is a lack of standards; but many, many times when answering a helpme I have changed '''Welcome''' to == Welcome ==, moved a help request from the start to the end of the page, and tried to explain good practice to the user. Hundreds of times. It the 'welcome' is in a section, the new users are more likely to understand the concepts - it would avoid some confusion. So - yes, some templates include a section heading and others don't, so perhaps we can fix that, or perhaps Twinkle can be smart and figure out if it needs to add a section...whichever way works.  Chzz  ►  17:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I've moved this back from the archive, hoping someone might look into it more  Chzz  ►  02:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Erm. I don't know where to go with this, to get a change?  Chzz  ►  08:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Is the insertHeadings configuration parameter not working correctly? Setting it to true, which is the default, should include a heading with any template that does not already contain one. Friendly has an internal list it keeps of which templates have headings already and which don't in order to facilitate this behavior. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 19:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I tested that, and...d'oh. Friendly seems fine [1] [2], I just checked through lots of recent welcomes, and it is Twinkle that doesn't use a section. [3] [4] [5]. So, I was right in my original post to the twinkle talk, and I shall move back over there now. Sorry about all that.  Chzz  ►  21:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

Template:You've got mail

Is it possible to include the {{You've got mail}} template in Friendly? /HeyMid (contributions) 13:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll see about adding it to the talkback feature today. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 13:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Tabs- full listing?

On the config example page for freindlytabs, it tells you to put in a pair of id (ca-nstab-special) and name (Special). However, is there a full listing of these "tab id's" available? Not every tab is in the example.— Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 22:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Add {{All plot}} & {{Cleanup-link rot}}

Please add {{All plot}} and {{Cleanup-link rot}}. Thanks. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)