Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Hawaii hotspot

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Initially from Fifelfoo's comments Fifelfoo (talk) 00:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

USGS (1987) in references needs fixing badly, multiple issues

Huh? Please clarify. ResMar 00:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

USGS (1987). Robert W. Decker, Thomas L. Wright, and Peter H. Straffer (editors), and multiple contributors.. ed (PDF). Volcanism in Hawaii-Volume 1 (Paper number 1350). United States Geological Survey-Volcanism of Hawaii. Volume 1. United States Geological Survey and the Hawaii Volcanism Observatory.

Decker, Wright Straffer are editors. What does "ed (PDF) mean?. Subtitles are separated from titles with a colon. Is Volume 1 the subtitle? Is Paper number 1350 a series number. Why is this "United States Geological Survey-Volcanism of Hawaii. Volume 1." seemingly repeated? Why, if its in series, is [Series] not suffixed to a series without "series" in the series title? Fifelfoo (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

OK. ed (PDF) is a collision between the Editors and the Format inside of the citation template. Subtitle colon-ized. I've removed USGS for |author= since it's redundant and inaproprriate anyway. I've removed a few redundancies, most notably the overuse of USGS. I do not understand whatyou mean by the Series thing. ResMar 23:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Your citation currently reads: "Robert W. Decker, Thomas L. Wright, and Peter H. Straffer, ed (1987) (PDF). Volcanism in Hawaii: Volume 1. Paper number 1350. 1. United States Geological Survey and the Hawaii Volcanism Observatory." which is short hand for this: in 1987 a book was published by the United States Geological Survey and the Hawaii Volcanism Observatory. The book was published in no location. The book's title is "Volcanism in Hawaii" and its subtitle is "Volume 1" (unless this is the actual subtitle on the Title Page of the book... I suspect its just a volume number). The book was edited by Decker, Wright and Straffer. It is Paper number 1350 in an unnamed series of papers.

The book you're citing is a work in a Series of books. Imagine this, Fifelfoo, Volcanism in Hawaii Volcanos of the USA [Series.] Paper number 1. then another book Fifelfoo, "Volcanism in the Pacific North West" Volcanos of the USA [Series.] Paper number 2.

Uh, all I know about this "series" is that it's the USGS's Paper #1350. I'm assuming that means its the 1350th paper they ever released. I dunno though for sure, and to avoid all this confusion I'm just going to remove it. There, problem solved. ResMar 02:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Use the |volume= field for the volume name / number, ie |volume= Volume 1. Use the |series= field for the name of the series and optionally the books number within the series (from my examples |series= Volcanos of the USA [Series.] Paper 1. and |series= Volcanos of the USA [Series.] Paper 2. Fifelfoo (talk) 00:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

William Drake Westervelt (1916) has an uncommon press, supply publication location

Citations names are all over the place. Name punctuation is all over the place.

Huh? Wait what? ResMar 00:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

First Last semicolon separated: "Michael O. Garcia; Jackie Caplan-Auerbanch, Eric H. De Carlo, M.D. Kurz, N. Becker "

Comma separation: "M.O. Garcia, J.M. Rhodes, F.A. Trusdell, A.J. Pietruszka"

This resulted because Garcia was placed into |author= and the others into |coauthors=. Now fixed. ResMar 23:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Last name only, lacking Year brackets, "Westervelt 1916"

Are you refering to the name of the ref? Is that seriously standardized? ResMar

Last name only, with Year brackets, "Tilling (1985)"

Ref naming, again? ResMar 23:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Last first, first last, semicolons and commas, "Regelous, M.; M. Regelous, A. W. Hofmann, W. Abouchami, and S. J. G. Galer"

Citations lack essential bibliographic detail (ie: Roger J. Van Wyckhouse (1973).)

Please generally check for consistency and message me when you feel your citations are consistent. Fifelfoo (talk) 23:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you please give me some specifics? ResMar 00:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Some works in journals are cited "Title" in Journal some "Title" Journal. I suggest you get your manual of style and walk through each and every citation slowly. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm no citation buff. I use the names provided with the articles. So what if it skips between C. E. Dutton and William Shabergaster? Is that really that important? ResMar 01:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:WIAFA 2c. Yes. It is important. Initials versus names is not important. Names & Initials being identical to the text as published is. Name order and punctuation within and between names is important. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow I never thought Citation bot was so useful. Well back to checking refs :) ResMar 23:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Garcia was causing huge problems, it took me most of a half-hour to fix it...ResMar 01:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)