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All Money Is Legal is the debut studio album by American rapper Amil (pictured). A hip hop album, it was released on August 29, 2000, through Roc-A-Fella, Columbia, and Sony Music. Jay-Z, Damon Dash, and Amil served as executive producers. Future spouses Jay-Z and Beyoncé met for the first time during the album's recording sessions. Although Jay-Z had written Amil's verses for their past collaborations, she wrote her own lyrics for all of the album's tracks. The songs focus on wealth and, to a lesser degree, Amil's personal life. Reviews were mixed; critics were divided over the album's production and Amil's verses. It peaked at number 45 on the US Billboard 200 chart. Two singles – "I Got That" with vocals from Beyoncé and "4 da Fam" with verses from Memphis Bleek, Beanie Sigel, and Jay-Z – were released from the album and promoted with accompanying music videos. "I Got That" reached number one on the Bubbling Under R&B/Hip-Hop Singles Billboard chart, and "4 da Fam" charted on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs. (Full article...)

Any thoughts or edits? - Dank (push to talk) 14:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sure, I don't see any problem with the image. - Dank (push to talk) 19:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Aoba47: I missed this during the FAC, but I had noticed a similar problem with one of the album charts: How could "4 da Fam" have charted on R&B/Hip-Hop Streaming Songs in 2000, well before that chart existed, or any streaming services existed (and for that matter, predating even the iTunes Store)? Granted, it's odd that the song reportedly peaked at a different position (#97) than it did on the main Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart (#99)—which I assume means that whatever Billboard did behind-the-scenes to transfer their existing data, they (apparently) weren't just copy-pasting the legacy chart data under the name of a newer chart. But nonetheless this seems like an impossible situation, and almost certainly another example of Billboard confusingly retrofitting its current streaming-era charts onto historical data. The Billboard source reports that the song "peaked" on R&B/Hip-Hop Streaming Songs on July 22, 2000, so this isn't even an example of an older song entering a streaming chart/reentering charts because of streaming (as, e.g., "Bohemian Rhapsody" did last year). I think I'm going to bring this up to the Albums and Songs WikiProjects, since it's probably going to be a recurrent issue for anyone writing about pre-2010s albums and songs.

  • Thank you for the message. I have removed the parts on the streaming chart. I agree with your idea that it could be Billboard retrofitting current streaming charts into its historical data. Due to the uncertainty though, it does not seem appropriate for the article (at least until further discussion proves otherwise). Aoba47 (talk) 22:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Unrelated suggestions for the blurb: I would probably include "Future spouses Jay-Z and Beyoncé met for the first time during the album's recording sessions." I know that this is sort of a tangential fact about the album from the perspective of Amil's career, but it's an excellent hook for a general readership (and, from a broader historical perspective, possibly the single most noteworthy fact about the album). If something else needs to get cut for that sentence to fit, I would cut the "gold digger" sentence; I suspect it may come across as a little odd—possibly even disparaging—in a one-paragraph summary. Even if that sentence wouldn't have to get cut for character limit/word count reasons, I would still recommend cutting it in favor of something that would summarize the overall lyrical contents (such as "the lyrics ... focus on wealth and, to a lesser degree, Amil's personal life.") —BLZ · talk 22:10, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • I have removed the "gold digger" sentence per your suggestion as I agree with you. I have replaced it with the recommended alternative as it would hopefully hook more people into the actual article. Aoba47 (talk) 22:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply