Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Peer review/God of War: Chains of Olympus

God of War: Chains of Olympus

Important game for the PlayStation Portable, highest rated game by aggregate on Metacritic.[1]. Obviously has outgrown its stub status but definitely could use some pointers on how to improve the article into an eventual GA/FA. Strongsauce (talk) 22:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone another

Hello Strongsauce. You've picked a worthy cause here, I've upped the article to Start class, regardless of anything else it's got that far. Here's some suggestions:

• The character list is redundant - Kratos has his own article and what's there is nothing more than repetition of what's already in plot (or should be in).

 Done

• Gameplay and reception need expanding and nailing down with the appropriate cites.

 Done

• Development consists of a lot of subsections which could be collapsed into one flowing section. They're OK as temporary scaffolding, but the breadth of information already there suggests that it's time to nail that section down good and proper.

 Done

• Bundle heading seems needless, just relocate the image and wording into development.

 Done It's no longer a sub-section, but rather it's part of the main section for Release.

• There's at least one 'you' instead of 'the player' in there, also a couple of non-neutral words here and there - "epic" boss fights, "displacing former champion Lumines", "the massive amount of enemies he faces". Nothing major, just a little bit too casual and congratulatory.

 Done I believe most, if not all, have been taken care of.

• The publisher seems to be missing from cites - it would be useful if that could be rectified at some point, please.

 Done

That's it really, if you can get a quick chop-collapse-rearrange done on the article it'll look a lot better immediately and offer a solid base to continue building on. Many thanks to yourself and the other contributors who have built the article up. Someoneanother 03:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• The character list is redundant - Kratos has his own article and what's there is nothing more than repetition of what's already in plot (or should be in). - done
• Gameplay and reception need expanding and nailing down with the appropriate cites.

Going to put in more balanced view of the reception for this game. What would you like expanded for the gameplay section?

• Development consists of a lot of subsections which could be collapsed into one flowing section. They're OK as temporary scaffolding, but the breadth of information already there suggests that it's time to nail that section down good and proper.

I have merged the bundle section. However I think the engine and the demo are points of interest to talk about. I can't recall a demo being issued on umd for a game and apparently the demo level consumed 40% of the production time (haven't added into article yet).

Minor note: Apparently Patapon was released as a demo by GameStop for pre-ordering the game. Although I don't know if there was an actual UMD involved. Still I think the demo of this game is important.

• Bundle heading seems needless, just relocate the image and wording into development. - done. see above
• There's at least one 'you' instead of 'the player' in there, also a couple of non-neutral words here and there - "epic" boss fights, "displacing former champion Lumines", "the massive amount of enemies he faces". Nothing major, just a little bit too casual and congratulatory. - Removed the non-neutral words.
• The publisher seems to be missing from cites - it would be useful if that could be rectified at some point, please. - done

Strongsauce (talk) 18:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Go with your gut, when it comes to the development section, if needs be it can always be rearranged later. With gameplay, I really like the way it's set out right now and the efficient way it's dealt with, it just feels that a few details are missing. For instance, is the game split into levels? How many are there? What kind of environments? What kind of enemies does Kratos face? What are these box-based puzzles, are we talking Sokoban here? Needs some explaining there.

Right now there are two small paragraphs, the first looking at the overview and the second at what Kratos collects. The third paragraph is much larger and deals with weapons and magic. As heavily combat-based as the game is, when the weapons and spells, with examples, take up twice the room of the overview, there's something missing.

"He also collects Gorgon eyeballs to increase his health and Phoenix feathers to increase his magic." Needs clarifying - increases as in replenishes or as in boosting the max HP/MP?

"Kratos still collects red orbs to power up his weapons and abilities." Refer to other games if there are differences, not when there aren't. What are these abilities? Does powering up the weapons literally just increase the amount of damage they inflict or is there more to it?

"Mystical weapons that were created by the Gods and given to Kratos." As a standalone sentence that doesn't make a lot of sense.

"that was prominent" That were prominent?

"the Light of Dawn, which allows you" which allows the player.

The gameplay section is missing some wikilinks, particularly seeing as Kratos doesn't seem to have been linked anywhere in the text. Quick time event is another. "Greek folklore setting" Greek mythology setting? Wikilink?

What I'd suggest is blanking your mind and reading the gameplay sections a few times, for yourself, the little flaws and missing sections should suddenly pop up. I'll take another look over the article tomorrow (when I'm not tired and my eyes aren't drying in their sockets). What you've done so far is a big change for the better. Someoneanother 21:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Judgesurreal777 (talk · contribs)

Ok, lots to say;

• Image rationales super vague; say exactly what they demonstrate, and exactly why they are important and need to be demonstrated

 Done I believe.

• There should be a middle paragraph in the lead telling the plot in summary

 Done

• the third paragraph of the lead should summarize the reaction to the game, sell well? Well reviewed?

 Done

• Gameplay section is unreferenced, get the game manual or notable video game reviewers and reference the section, see Final Fantasy IV

 Done

• You can go into more detail in the gameplay section, probably another paragraph of how it works, again with references.

 Done

• All the paragraphs of the story section need reference, look for the game manual and game scripts so you can quote the text of the game, see Final Fantasy VI

 Done

• Development needs to me made into paragraphs, its very disjointed now as one sentences paragraphs and such

 Done

• Development needs to be filled with stuff like what were their references? How did they make the games music? Did any of the voice actors or developers do interviews and talk about making this game?

 Done I believe.

• There is one sentence of audio information at the end of the development section, if you can find more information on how the audio of the game was done, add it and perhaps make an Audio section

 Done

• Was there a significant reaction to the music, positive or negative? If not forget it, but if there was any opinions should go in the reception section.

Can't say for sure because the soundtrack was never commercially released to have its own review. It might be talked about in one of the reviews for the game itself.

• Reference the Electronic Gaming Monthly score in the video game scores box.

I think it's been removed since this PR.

• Don't list the score in the text if its in the side box unless it is significent, such as the "only 10 they ever gave" or something like that

 Done

• Sales data, preferrably for the US and Japan, Europe too if it is available

 Done

• did the game win any awards? if so, make a little paragraph below the reviews.

 Done

• was there any negative reception? Little flaws? put those in too

 Done

• wikilink all the publishers in your references

 Done

• reference 8 has no publisher

 Done

• reference 9 has no retrieval date

 Done

• In the references, always list the author if available

 Done

• Is Shacknews a reliable source?

Yes. I have confirmed this via WP:VG/S under Reliable sources, General. JDC808 (talk) 07:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Do all that, and then copyediting is the final issue; either copyedit it yourself, looking for flow and paragraphs not one sentence paragraphs, check for spelling grammar, punctuation and that stuff, or take it to peer review or the league of copyeditors, good way to learn how to do it yourself that way too :)
• That should get you an FA :) Good job so far, and good luck!! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 03:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)