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Article promoted by Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 22:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Dresden (1907) edit

Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk)

SMS Dresden (1907) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Another German cruiser article - this one was the one German ship to escape destruction at the Falkland Islands. I'd like to get the article to FA to run on the centenary of her scuttling at the Battle of Mas a Tierra in March this year. Thanks to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose per standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 01:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks as always, Dan. Parsecboy (talk) 13:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments - I did the GA review for this article but that was nearly 18 months ago. Taking the opportunity to review this article again with fresh eyes, I only have the following comments to make:

  • Lead: "...but was prevented from doing so by the outbreak of World War I. Just a suggestion
    • I think that sounds good.
  • "Mediterranean Division (Mittelmeer-Division)": The English-langauge of this term is introduced first rather than the German, in contrast to the other translations provided.
    • A good point.
  • "...with only 160 t (160 long tons; 180 short tons)": should that be "with only 160 metric tons (160 long tons; 180 short tons)", for sake of consistency? There are a couple of others later in this section as well that may need similar treatment.
    • Hmm, the template looks like it should be formatted to MT, but for some reason it isn't producing it. I suppose I can just write it out directly.
  • Some duplicate links: Kiel, Hamburg, SMS Bremen, SMS Karlsruhe, armoured cruiser, battlecruiser, Punta Arenas, barque.
    • Ahh, I knew I'd have to check for dupe links once I finished the rewrite, but then I forgot. Thanks for catching these.

And that is it from me. Cheers. Zawed (talk) 01:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Zawed! Parsecboy (talk) 13:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Have added my support. Zawed (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support - I had a first look, again a job well done MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The Oberbürgermeister of her namesake city christened the ship", his name was de:Otto Beutler

Support Comments

  • Suggest converting metric lengths into feet and inches, which would help to standardize measurements between the infobox and main body.
    • Done
  • Link commerce raider, christening.
  • Move boilers to the ship power line in the infobox and suggest adding a link to shp there.
    • Good idea
  • Convert gun range to yards rather than feet.
    • Fixed
  • A Swedish galleass? In 1908? You sure you've got the right type of ship?
    • Forgot about the galeas - ADA corrected the link per below.
  • Any details about what was actually damaged in her collisions?
    • Working on that with ADA below, at least for the collision with Caecilie.
  • There's a pretty good article on the search for Dresden after the Falkland Islands and the subsequent battle in Warship International that might have some additional details. Otherwise nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:20, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll see if I can get ahold of it before the FAC. Thanks for reviewing the article, Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 13:28, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • the secondary battery is missing: According to Gröner I (1982), Dresden had the same armament as Nürnberg, that HRS concur; that there were 8 × 5.2 cm SK L/55 with 4000 rounds.
  • neither Gröner (sourced) nor HRS mention mines, where is this information coming from?
  • the torpedo tubes were 45cm, rather than 50cm (Gröner, HRS)
    • Don't know how these three issues happened - must have been looking at the wrong section.
  • the Mediterranean Division should be linked
    • Done.
  • I took the liberty to correct the link to the type of sailing vessel Dresden rammed and sank in 1908. Koop, Schmolke (2004): Kleine Kreuzer 1903-1918, p104 gives details on the damage, mainly to the starbord shaft (if you try google books for a snippet enter CÄCILIE). That's it from me for now. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 12:19, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Added a bit on the shaft damage, thanks for suggesting that. And thanks for fixing the ship type. Parsecboy (talk) 13:28, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quick image review -- Generally looks okay but you should give File:Dresden class cruiser diagrams Janes 1914.jpg a US licence tag. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:49, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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