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05:03, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Ajdaccess

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Over a month ago, I resubmitted this article request with numerous improvements done in response to previous feedback. Would it be possible for someone to review and comment? International Women's Day is on March 8, and I was hoping to have the article live by then. Ajdaccess (talk) 05:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ajdaccess: this was last submitted on Feb 7 (not "over a month ago"), and as it says on top of the draft, reviews "may take 7 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order". Please be patient. While you may have a deadline in mind, Wikipedia is not edited to one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you have a conflict of interest or are a new user, this process is voluntary. If you feel the draft would survive an Articles for Deletion discussion, you may roll the dice and move it into the encyclopedia yourself. I advise against this, as you lack experience, but it's possible. I suggest that you let the process play out. 331dot (talk) 10:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:25, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Cleanton

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Can any one help me for improve this article ? Cleanton 06:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@Cleanton: no, neither we here at the AfC help desk, nor the hosts at the Teahouse, get involved in editing. If you have specific questions, you're welcome to pose them here or at the Teahouse (but preferably not both). In any case, this draft has been submitted and is awaiting review. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:09, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Tamil Amutahan

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Hi I am new to Wikipedia, finding difficult to post article .while randomly searching in internet i came up with this software CandidATS, so chose this to make a beginning article Tamil Amutahan (talk) 08:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamil Amutahan: "randomly searching"? You've disclosed a conflict of interest in this subject, so I assume there's more to it than just randomness.
Anyway, this draft is purely promotional, with nothing to suggest, let alone prove, that the subject is notable. That's why it has now been rejected and is awaiting deletion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User is now blocked. 331dot (talk) 10:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:48, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Orangesclub

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I'm curious why he's not deemed notable when he meets one of the key notability rules: he has charted /by himself/ on Korean music charts with his soundtrack appearances. This plus his acting experience, as the lead in a musical - twice - and being a brand ambassador for a fashion brand - all done beyond his role as a band member. Open to discussion on this. Orangesclub (talk) 10:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His music career is as part of a group, he didn't chart as an individual. His work in musicals doesn't seem to meet WP:NACTOR. He doesn't seem to merit a standalone article. 331dot (talk) 10:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:02, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Vmonetech

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My draft on Vineet Malhotra (VM-One) was deleted under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion. As per my knowledge, I did not put anything unambiguous or promotional on the page. The page was solely dedicated towards providing information to the people. Vmonetech (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vmonetech: I've already answered on your talk page. You should not be writing about yourself, nor should you be promoting anything (and yes, it was promotion, because you were 'telling people about yourself', which is the definition of promotion, see WP:YESPROMO). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I provided enough citations for the content. Then how was it Unambiguous advertising? Vmonetech (talk) 11:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vmonetech: it's perfectly possible to have (poor quality) references, and for the content to still be promotional; those are not mutually exclusive. If you were to only summarise what independent and reliable secondary sources have said of their own volition, then you couldn't easily be accused of promotions because you'd be able to support everything with solid sources, but this draft was pretty much the opposite of that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As per my knowledge, I have provided enough solid sources to support each of my mention. The sources I provided were independent and of high authority. All the references that were mentioned came from authentic and trustworthy resources. Vmonetech (talk) 12:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You should be making your appeal at User talk:Jimfbleak, and then WP:DRV if still not satisfied, not here. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:56, 2 March 2024 review of submission by TheDohnJoe

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With 2024 Russian presidential election coming soon (with a predictable winner)

Why not create an article for 2030 election. You can help with editing and improving it. Vladimir Gluten (talk) (pArOdY) 15:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDohnJoe because there are no facts to report yet. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a place for rumours and speculation. KylieTastic (talk) 17:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:26, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Jaydeep Jagannath Thakur

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What should be category Jaydeep Jagannath Thakur (talk) 19:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories are not really relevant to drafts. Concentrate on getting your draft to the standard which can be accepted as an article; which means (as the first step) citing reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:56, 2 March 2024 review of submission by Snickers44556677

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I would like feedback as to why this submission was not approved. Snickers44556677 (talk) 20:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is in the grey box of the decline, I would have also declined it for being blatant advertising too. Theroadislong (talk) 21:12, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
The first step - the very first step - in writing an article is to find several places where people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to write in some depth about the subject. If you can't find such, then you know that all further effort you spend on this will be wasted. ColinFine (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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