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00:12, 21 October 2023 review of submission by CooperRiverRunner

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After an article is reviewed/declined and then resubmitted, does it get any priority for a second review or does the process start all over again at the beginning? The first draft took nearly two months to be reviewed. CooperRiverRunner (talk) 00:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CooperRiverRunner I fixed your link for proper display; the whole url is not needed. Resubmissions are treated no differently than initial submissions. Reviews are conducted by a limited number of volunteers in no particular order. Please be patient. 331dot (talk) 00:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Two months is actually pretty good; the current backlog is four months, and that's really just an average. 331dot (talk) 00:20, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CooperRiverRunner: this isn't a direct answer to your question, and may not be what you want to hear, but I'll say it anyway. You would make the reviewer's job easier, thereby possibly encouraging a quicker review, if you were to cut down some of the content (including references – 53 sources, really?!). The 'High School Career' section is already longer than many athletes' entire articles. And in the 'College Career' 2023 section, do we really need to know the blow-by-blow account of her every competitive run this year? Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a log of everything someone has done; it would be better (not just for the reviewer, but more to the point for the future reader) if you focused on the truly important and noteworthy things, those that are likely to be remarkable still in ten year's time, rather than trying to cover every detail. As it stands, you're tempting the reviewer to just decline this for the easiest reason they come across, which probably would be insufficient citations (with much of the biographical information unreferenced, in violation of the WP:BLP rules). HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:34, 21 October 2023 review of submission by Waqar ul Aziz Khan

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we want to create a bio page of Waqar Khan, Forex Expert but it is rejected. What is its solution. Waqar ul Aziz Khan (talk) 07:34, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Waqar ul Aziz Khan: we don't have "bio pages", we have encyclopaedia articles about topics which are deemed notable. There is no evidence of notability in this draft, which is why it has been rejected. And rejection means there is no "solution"; this is the end of the road.
In any case, you should not be writing about yourself; see WP:AUTOBIO. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:55, 21 October 2023 review of submission by Nurul.easn

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for accepting my article Nurul.easn (talk) 10:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:30, 21 October 2023 review of submission by SkylerClock

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The page doesn't actually promote any kinds of things SkylerClock (talk) 11:30, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SkylerClock your draft has been rejected and will soon be deleted. You also vandalised the Voting page, which is prohibited. I have undone your vandalism. Qcne (talk) 11:32, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Every single sentence is promotional, correctly rejected and tagged for speedy deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 11:33, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:47, 21 October 2023 review of submission by 2A00:23C6:CE0F:6D01:A422:9C2:F51F:3416

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New article rejection, as Asgog Castle is a historical place and is currently part of Asgog Loch article, Asgog Castle CANNOT be listed in Categories on its own merit?

That is why I submitted for Asgog Castle to have its own article. 

2A00:23C6:CE0F:6D01:A422:9C2:F51F:3416 (talk) 13:47, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It may be possible to have a separate article on the castle, but you need to show that it is notable either by WP:GNG or WP:NBUILD. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest a castle recorded in 1581 is notable, it was besieged and eventually destroyed by Clan Campbell in 1646! The castle deserves its own article, so it can be listed in Wikipedia articles in its own right, which is impossible as part of Asgog Loch article.. 2A00:23C6:CE0F:6D01:A422:9C2:F51F:3416 (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You may well suggest that, and you could even prove right, but nevertheless we don't determine notability by endorsement. Provide reliable sources showing that this meets either GNG or NBUILD, and then you're welcome to resubmit. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have added more refs, including historic environment Scotand, designation LB12082 2A00:23C6:CE0F:6D01:A422:9C2:F51F:3416 (talk) 14:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The content appears to have been copied from Asgog Loch without attribution? Theroadislong (talk) 14:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If historic environment Scotland think Castle Asgog is notable enough to give a designation, but Wikipedia editors know better, I give up! 2A00:23C6:CE0F:6D01:A422:9C2:F51F:3416 (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is saying it's not notable? Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:22, 21 October 2023 review of submission by Dwanyewest

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Does anyone think this article is ready to submitted for review. I think it has enough sources to justify a Wikipedia article. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dwanyewest, the key to success in writing a Wikipedia article is providing references to reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the topic. What I am seeing are statistics pages and passing mentions, plus one local newspaper article about her athletics and academics in high school. Her claim to notability is as a professional soccer player, not as a good student and good athlete in high school. There are literally millions of such people. Where is the significant coverage devoted to her as a professional athlete? Cullen328 (talk) 06:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:15, 21 October 2023 review of submission by 103.150.206.94

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What my fault? Please tell me to I fix them and iam also on wikipedia plz accept my submission 103.150.206.94 (talk) 16:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has been rejected as non-notable, time to drop it and move on. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:04, 21 October 2023 review of submission by OliverRoads

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My draft has been rejected due to a lack of reliable sources. I have done my best to include sources, and it looks OK to me, so can somebody explain where I am going wrong? OliverRoads (talk) 21:04, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@OliverRoads: your draft was declined (not rejected) because half the sources (Blogspot, Discogs) are user-generated and therefore not considered reliable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ah okay.
yes but Discogs was Just used used a online source for the track versions that were listed in the Case bound CD book. I found it easier this way to copy some of the info than to write it out word for word from the CD Case Bound Book.
If it is useful I can remove the cite for discogs.
I know about Blogspot but it was included because Davearama the creator of that blog page is mentioned in the case bound CD book.
Also noting that there was not much info online as this CD set is out of print (now only available seccond hand) and the temporary licencing rights (not sure if this is the best wording) to Rhino to release Bananarama Stuff (As well as other London Records Artists) expired years ago. Don't know hat Demon has to do with it though.
If there was more info online i would cite and include it.
It seems that this this collection had Tracks licensed courtesy of Warner music UK ltd. OliverRoads (talk) 14:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Information does not need to be online, but it does need to be reliably published and (to contribute towards establishing notability) independent and containing WP:significant coverage of the subject of the article (see golden rule). On a quick look, it doesn't look to me as if a single one of your sources meets that tripartite criterion. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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