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11:53, 13 May 2023 review of submission by 202.134.8.141

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This article is the article of the central president of Bangladesh Islami Chhatra shibir. English articles have been submitted here, but the news source has been submitted with Bangla news at the national level of Bangladesh. Please activate it and make it open to public. 202.134.8.141 (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This draft will be reviewed in due course, once a reviewer gets around to it. This can take several weeks or even longer, as we have c. 4,500 other drafts also awaiting review, and this draft was only submitted today. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:00, 13 May 2023 review of submission by Gdude189

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what should I do for my page to get accepted by wikipedia Gdude189 (talk) 12:00, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gdude189: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This 13 year old musician is simply not notable at this time. Cullen328 (talk) 05:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:54, 13 May 2023 review of submission by Lucasmauduit

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Why is it refused? List them. Lucasmauduit (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lucasmauduit: the decline reason is given in the decline notice, in the small grey box inside the larger pink one. TL;DNR = the sources are insufficient to establish notability (and Instagram isn't an acceptable source anyway). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Lucasmauduit Virtually every reference you have used is from Grieco's own social media accounts. The notability criteria need multiple sources that are independent of the subject. So sources need to be about him, not by him. What you have used that isn't from his own accounts is very weak as it's just passing mentions of him. For example, this just says he was in Portugal, that's not really featuring in the magazine. Nthep (talk) 17:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I listed more sources if you want to see them.
http://evene.lefigaro.fr/celebre/biographie/tony-grieco-24534.php
https://www.thenewyorktoday.com/exclusive-feature-on-tony-grieco-a-multi-faceted-artist/
and many more. Lucasmauduit (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Source [1] says only "Guitariste et chanteur français" which clearly doesn't help establish any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
at least this famous magazine says that he is an artist established on Spotify and apple music and he makes music. Lucasmauduit (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of which confers any notability whatsoever. Theroadislong (talk) 20:33, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, Le Figaro is a well-known French daily newspaper founded in 1826, during the reign of Charles X. Named after Figaro, the character of Beaumarchais, it is one of the oldest titles of the French press still published. Lucasmauduit (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am well aware of Le Figaro but the source says nothing about him except "Guitariste et chanteur français". We need significant coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Today describes itself as an E-Magazine that publishes user generated content around Business, Technology, Entertainment, Health, Sports & Lifestyle News. In other words, it is a pay for play clickbait site that is the opposite of a reliable source. Cullen328 (talk) 05:55, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

what do you even mean? it is not clear. Lucasmauduit (talk) 21:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:57, 13 May 2023 review of submission by 2601:18C:CD7F:7D30:692D:9D7F:D62A:7873

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I'm wondering why my page was rejected. It says that it's "contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia," but I don't believe that's true. I do not work for this company and there is no advertising present in the page. I'd like to rebut this rejection. 2601:18C:CD7F:7D30:692D:9D7F:D62A:7873 (talk) 18:57, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP, it has now been deleted as blatant advertising. I also note previous versions of the draft have been deleted and users blocked due to the same issue. At this point, I think trying recreate it is a waste of time and it if it continues, there will be measures taken to prevent any recreation. S0091 (talk) 19:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:47, 13 May 2023 review of submission by Denniscabrams

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I'm not sure why this article was published. Only the intro and background sections were complete. It's an article about a murder which doesn't describe the murder. I also planned to add a section about the trial and the impact (i.e. the resignations and firings and the explosion of the number of kids in foster care). I'd probably prefer that it be moved back into the draft space but maybe this is an acceptable level of completion for a Start-Class article? I'm not sure. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 20:47, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was submitted for review and accepted. You are free to carry on improving it of course. Theroadislong (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Denniscabrams the draft was submitted by @JSwift49 so you will need to take it up with them. S0091 (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Denniscabrams I had thought it was okay for a start, and I decided to publish because it hadn't been edited since December. I apologize if you didn't want me to. JSwift49 20:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JSwift49 if the editor is still active, it is probably best to check first before submitting. Also by you submitting drafts, especially if you have made no substantial improvements, it could be construed as you taking credit for drafts did not you had nothing to do with (i.e. getting the acceptance notices). S0091 (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. That wasn't my intention at all, I just looked at it and thought it's better to publish than, say, have it auto-deleted. But in future I'll do that, thanks JSwift49 21:14, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You can mark them with the {{promising draft}} template, which prevents them from being deleted generally for a year and adds them to Category:Promising draft articles. I do not think what you are doing is an issue at all for editors who are no longer active thus the draft is clearly abandoned but appears to meet notability. S0091 (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ping @JSwift49. S0091 (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great thanks JSwift49 21:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Denniscabrams: what am I missing? You started a draft, and it's been accepted for publication. Which bit are you unhappy about – your drafting, someone else submitting it for review, or the reviewer accepting it? If your point is that this should have remained in the draft space, I'm happy to move it back for you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 20:57, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would've been best if it had remained in the draft space but I suppose that's what I get for being lazy and not participating in the discussion. At the end of the day, I guess it doesn't matter. I guess this just lights a fire under me to actually finish it. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 21:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:13, 13 May 2023 review of submission by Rayemufc1995

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Why has my page been declined????

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Aartii_Naagpal&oldid=prev&diff=1154583321 Rayemufc1995 (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is in the grey box inside the pink box namely... "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia." Theroadislong (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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