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01:44, 10 August 2023 review of submission by Maridl83 edit

Hello, I was wondering why this draft is not considered qualified for a Wikipedia page. I thought the sources would be considered in-depth, reliable, secondary and strictly independent of the subject. Maridl83 (talk) 01:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maridl83 As noted by the reviewer, the sources are entirely press releases or announcements of routine business activities. They are no independent sources with significant coverage of the topic, that chose on their own to write about it and not base what they write on materials from the company, describing what they see as important/significant/influential about the company(not what the company sees as such about itself).
You made a paid editing disclosure on your user page, and then removed it, why? 331dot (talk) 08:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maridl83, your draft relies heavily on references to Business Wire, which is a commercial service that distributes press releases. In other words, a business writes a press release, and then they pays X number of dollars to Business Wire, and Business Wire distributes their press release word for word. That is the exact opposite of an independent source. Several other sources are simply regurgitating press releases with no evidence of independent reporting. Your very first reference to Industrial Distribution is filled with tell-tale phrasing like The company said and SureWerx said the change and then includes lengthy quotes from the company's CEO and board chairman. That is obvious recapitulation of a press release, and accordingly, this source and others like it are not independent and are of no value in establishing notability. Cullen328 (talk) 03:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:39, 10 August 2023 review of submission by Indiana6724 edit

I don’t understand why my article is getting deleted even though there are many articles that use articles for musicians with a couple passing mentions (verktroid) yet my article has been denied multiple times?Indiana6724 (talk) 08:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no article called Verktroid and it is not remotely clear how Draft:Home (musician) would pass WP:NMUSICIAN? Theroadislong (talk) 08:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry typo, Ramona Andra Langley Indiana6724 (talk) 08:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Indiana6724
Unfortunately there are hundreds of thousands of articles on Wikipedia that require improvement and may not pass our notability threshold- it's just that no one has gotten around to removing them or cleaning them up. This means you should not use existing articles as a basis for new articles (see Wikipedia:Other Stuff Exists).
At the moment your draft does not seem to show how Randy passes the strict Wikipedia:Notability (music) criteria. Check that link for requirements. Qcne (talk) 08:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, it just feels like the system is just luck. Indiana6724 (talk) 08:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you check the criteria in that notability policy, and if you can prove Randy meets those criteria, then they should be able to have an article. If you can't prove the criteria then it may simply be Wikipedia:Too soon. Qcne (talk) 08:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can I use twitter if it’s for quotation? Indiana6724 (talk) 09:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Check Wikipedia:SELFSOURCE which explains when you can cite Twitter (or other social media accounts). It has limited use and cannot be used to establish notability. In essence you can use Twitter as long as the tweet is by Randy and states a simply uncontroversial fact about themselves, such as a date of birth. Qcne (talk) 09:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:35, 10 August 2023 review of submission by Alicia C. K. edit

Hi Wiki-Team, I just wanted to ask when the review of this page will be done. Cause I'm waiting for this page to be reviewed since 3 months. Is there an opportunity to accelerate the process? All the best and thank you in advance! Alicia Alicia C. K. (talk) 14:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Alicia C. K.: normally I would say there is no way to expedite the review process, but in this case it was such an obvious fail that I've gone ahead and declined your draft. The 'Biography' section is completely unreferenced. Please note that in articles on living people, every material statement, anything potentially contentious, and all private personal and family details must be clearly supported by inline citations to reliable published sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi thank you for the quick answer. I submitted it again - no with the references. It would be so amazing if you could review the page again. Cause there will be a global conference soon and it would be lovely to also get the Wikipedia article not only in German. Thank you so much and have a nice day :) Alicia C. K. (talk) 07:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft has just been declined due to lack of references. Every material statement in your draft needs to be referenced, see Wikipedia:Verifiability. Qcne (talk) 14:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:46, 10 August 2023 review of submission by 84.140.62.2 edit

Very dear team,

Thank you for your message and the request to edit the article so that it can be published. Since the article meets the relevance criteria - it's an outstanding photographer - I'm not entirely sure what specific weaknesses you see. Is it possible to be more specific about what should be added?

Thank you for the support! 84.140.62.2 (talk) 14:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP editor,
You've got a lot of references here, which is going into Wikipedia:Citation overkill territory. I really don't think 8 separate references for the Skin film is appropriate.
Mallam needs to meet the Wikipedia:Notability (people) criteria, and the easiest way to do that is to show significant coverage about him in reliable, secondary sources that are independent of Mallam.
Could you please pick out just the three main sources that fit these criteria and cite them in a Reply here on the Help Desk? We'll then be able to better judge if Mallam meets the notability criteria. Qcne (talk) 14:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please note that him being an "outstanding photographer" (which is your own personal opinion?) does not confer inherent notability. In the Wikipedia context notability means significant coverage in those types of sources mentioned above. Qcne (talk) 14:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:10, 10 August 2023 review of submission by Fellow22 edit

Hello, I would like to know how best to improve the article references. Most sources available online are from news articles. Fellow22 (talk) 17:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Fellow22: this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further, therefore improving it at this stage would be a wasted effort, I'm afraid. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for the clarification Fellow22 (talk) 19:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:31, 10 August 2023 review of submission by 137.59.68.24 edit

How to create a company pages- For WhyDonate a Crowdfunding platform 137.59.68.24 (talk) 18:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please ignore: IP asked identical question at WP:TH a few moments prior. IP user: Please don't waste volunteer resources asking the same question in the same place at the same time! Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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