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01:16:19, 11 March 2022 review of draft by Seraphinas3

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I am writing an article on Common Good, which is a non-profit I am working for and overseeing the member relations and development. I was wondering if a coverage by WEMU radio (Eastern Michigan Public Radio Station) would make the organization a valid entry. It is an interview, so someone from the organization is talking about it, but it is a regional outlet so I wanted to ask about it regardless. Thank you in advance for your feedback. the coverage is here: https://www.wemu.org/wemu-news/2014-04-08/organizers-hold-meeting-on-rcredits-community-currency Seraphinas3 (talk) 01:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphinas3 Interviews are primary sources and as such do not establish notability. A Wikipedia article should primarily summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about the topic. 331dot (talk) 01:19, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Seraphinas3 You'll also want to read WP:COI since you are connected to the subject. TechnoTalk (talk) 00:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

14:05:17, 11 March 2022 review of submission by 106.220.100.107

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106.220.100.107 (talk) 14:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blind Landing

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18:58:19, 11 March 2022 review of submission by TipsyElephant

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The podcast Draft:Blind Landing is clearly notable but was rejected because the editor who started the article had a conflict of interest. I wouldn't mind working on the draft and removing tone and pov problems before resubmitting the article through AFC. I'm also an AfC reviewer and was wondering if I have the ability to reinstate the draft, do I just have to press the "clean submission" button? TipsyElephant (talk) 18:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there more documentation on rejecting a draft or documentation on cleaning a submission? I read Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions back when applying for the AfC helper script, but there is only a couple sentences on each topic and they don't exactly go into depth. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

19:58:48, 11 March 2022 review of submission by Junchoshi

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I added more information. Junchoshi (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

20:05:48, 11 March 2022 review of draft by Jcwsandiego

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Hello - I need help because my article was first declined for having too many internal references and then denied for not having enough external references. In my article, I referenced the Nature publication that put Micronoma on the map for scientific discovery. What other kind of reference do you need to validate my article? Thanks for your help!

Jcwsandiego (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jcwsandiego: You should read WP:COI. Only insiders would include the TM symbols. TechnoTalk (talk) 00:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21:53:33, 11 March 2022 review of draft by StevenOliveGarden

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Hello! I am wondering how I can amend my draft to make it read less as a promotional/advertisement style page or resume. I was considering if it might be wise to remove the section that lists out all of the talks that Ross has participated in, particularly because that doesn't seem to be backed by a lot of secondary sources and is mostly backed by primary sources such as Facebook events and Google Calendar events from the respective organizations.

Also, I was hoping for some guidance as to how I can resolve the issue of overlinking! I went back and tried to remove some and make it a little cleaner, but I'm not sure how much that changed it.

Thank you to anyone who can provide some further guidance and advice! :-)

StevenOliveGarden (talk) 21:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi StevenOliveGarden. Removing the talks is a good idea, one that I see another editor has already put into effect. I advise extending the idea to the list of publications. The title of his master's thesis can be mentioned when discussing when and where he received his degree. The journal articles aren't worth mentioning unless they've had significant impact, as evidenced by high citation counts or people writing about them.
With regards to links, ask yourself whether reading a linked article would deepen a reader's understanding of your topic. Reading YouTuber might, but if they've read that, do they really need to read 13,000 words about the history of YouTube, its technology, products, finances, etc.? YouTube, like Bachelor of Arts, Master of Arts, and Google is a common term. Assume readers have basic familiarity with them. If that isn't enough to understand what you've written, expand your text with context, such as "Google, the parent company of YouTube," rather than making the reader follow a link to more information than they need. A link to South Shore Greenfield Park might help readers understand what it was like to grow up there, but if they've read that, do they also need to read Quebec, and Canada? When there are related terms, link only the most specific one. This concept also applies to double mastectomy and top surgery, and to Section 230 and Communications Decency Act. Is there anything in Montreal General Hospital or United States magistrate judge that helps readers understand Ross? Ask yourself these questions about every link; you should be able to remove 10-20. See WP:LINK for more information. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Worldbruce,
Thank you so much! That helped a lot and that clarified a lot more about the overlinking, especially to figure out where I should cut down. I removed the list of publications, although I was admittedly sad to see them go. I felt that they were particularly notable because I found his works to be a particularly valuable source for research papers on the subject of trans masculinity and body modifications, but I also understand that that's a pretty niche interest that isn't as widely cited within academia. I really appreciate the guidance!!
I guess what I'm considering now is how else I can improve it to read less like an advertisement, or if at this point it seems valid for resubmission. This totally isn't just directed for you; I absolutely invite anyone to provide any insight as to whether I should edit it a bit more or if it seems all right to try resubmitting it! StevenOliveGarden (talk) 01:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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