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16:15:44, 17 December 2021 review of submission by ClaudiaDenkinger edit
A draft article was declined with the justification that it is not clear how this person meets WP:ACADEMIC and that all information should be referenced. I am not sure how I should meet these criteria and prove achievements in the biography of the individual. Certain things such as Master Studies, jobs not listed on the Internet other steps in their life are difficult to reference.
Any help on making the edits such that the article can be published is very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance for all your efforts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaudiaDenkinger (talk • contribs)
- ClaudiaDenkinger You seem to be saying that you are not Claudia Denkinger; if so, you must change your username immediately, please make a request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. If you are not her, you do not need to "prove achievements" so much as you need to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about her, showing how she meets WP:NACADEMIC. If there are no such sources, she would not merit a Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 16:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
21:12:00, 17 December 2021 review of draft by Luelcambe edit
Hello!
I am currently writing an article about our band The Stereo Scope. This is to improve our searchability when we are searched on Google, and have proper info about our band besides them going to our official website. What would be the things that I should improve upon?
Luelcambe (talk) 21:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Luelcambe Please understand that- to be frank- Wikipedia has no interest in enhancing search results for your band, or in helping your fans. Our only interest is in summarizing what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about your band, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable band. To succeed at this, you need to set aside everything you know about the band and all materials put out by the band or its associates, and only write based on the content of independent sources. 331dot (talk) 21:14, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia also cannot help with searchability beyond the article. We use NOFOLLOW, which tells search engines that respect robots.txt to disregard outgoing links. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:14, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Luelcambe: Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia written by its readers and the subjects for our articles are generally chosen by the editing community rather than written by the subject. Please note that although Wikipedia has many band articles, our website is not a business or web directory. For more information about why this is so, please see WP:NOTDIR. You may also find it helpful to view these pages Wikipedia:Notability and WP:MUSIC.
- You should be aware we strongly discourage articles written by individuals close to a subject because of the inherent problem of "conflict of interest"— this is the difficulty in writing objectively about your band. You can read more about the issues around conflict-of-interest editing here: WP:COI which you appear to already know about. ww2censor (talk) 23:08, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- DavidJMoss (talk · contribs)
I have been working to get an article "DRAFT:TOBEY C.Moss Gallery" about an art dealer to match the format of other art dealers listed in wikipedia like Mary Boone and Sidney Janis and others listed under "List of art dealers". For Theroadislong to say that it "appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia" and the others do not is false and misleading. It is a historically important gallery created to make niche market for a particular style of contemporary art. DavidJMoss (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
DavidJMoss (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, DavidJMoss. Mary Boone and her galley have been the subject of significant coverage in many reliable, independent sources, including a cover story in Time magazine. As for Sidney Janis, the critic Clement Greenberg wrote an essay analyzing his career which was published by the University of Chicago Press and the New York Times published a 17 paragraph article when he died. The NYT published a 12 paragraph article about him in 1964 (which isn't even referenced yet), and the Los Angeles Times ran an significant article about him and his traveling show. Your draft only has one reference to significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. It is all about the quality of the references which are much better in the case of those two articles than in the case of your draft. Cullen328 (talk) 01:24, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- As for your claim that this is a "historically important gallery created to make niche market for a particular style of contemporary art", that does not align with the description by the Los Angeles Times in the best of your references, which describes "a 495-year-old engraving by Albrecht Dürer" at the entrance to the gallery and summarizes it as "Like an eccentric aunt’s attic, “The Big 3-0” is stuffed with a lifetime of loves and discoveries that refuse to be shoehorned into tidy categories." Cullen328 (talk) 03:13, 18 December 2021 (UTC)