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I dont know how to proceed

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04:27:41, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Joebolanos1

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I thought this would have been easy. this is my review article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Neuroscience_20_(Brain20,_Spine20_and_Mental_Health20)

I have talked to the CEO of the society and he has given me a lot of information first handedly, and also permission to use the information on their webpage which are 16 points of the N20 initiative, like reciting the 10 commandments, how can I "make them original or paraphrase them?"

I have a copyvio I have tried to explain this to my reviewers. they suggested for me to come here, I think I am too new to this, and simply its discouraging...


Dr. Joe F. Bolanos M.D. (talk) 04:27, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Joebolanos1, Where you have elements like this, the important thing is that they are licenced correctly for use. You may have the CEO's permission, but Wikipedia does not know that. How could we? Either the licencing on the source web site has to change or permission must be proved to Wikipedia for the elements to be used. Wikipedia:Copyrights is a good place to start your journey Fiddle Faddle 06:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Joebolanos1, the same applies to the files uploaded to Commons. That is a separate place and requires separate handling by you. It has very strict rules. Fiddle Faddle 07:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

08:35:12, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Peter Pudev

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I have started an article about the village of Lilkovo. I would like to monitor any changes that other users make to this article. I can see somebody has already made 3 changes but how do I see what those changes are? Peter Pudev (talk) 08:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Pudev You can examine the edit history and review every edit made to the article. Click the "View History" tab at the top of the screen(if using the desktop version). If you haven't already, you can add the page to your watchlist by clicking on the white star tab at the top(if it is blue, it is already on your list) 331dot (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:07:05, 14 August 2020 review of submission by San Stei

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I have changed the name and have added the right link to verify the text. The Institute Burghausen belongs to the Rosenheim University of Applied Sciences. This is not an advertising but an important place for science and innovation. An article in the German Wikipedia is already existing. San Stei (talk) 09:07, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like blatant advertising, it is irrelevant that the article exists in the German Wikipedia, different countries have different guidelines for accepting articles. Theroadislong (talk) 09:34, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:20:26, 14 August 2020 review of submission by San Stei

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San Stei (talk) 09:20, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10:36:34, 14 August 2020 review of submission by 86.120.130.103

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I ask for a review 'cause I've managed almost 100 games in professional football and I had with big names as Christoph Daum.


86.120.130.103 (talk) 10:36, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Still not acceptable. This needs reliable sources that are independnet of the subject. If you are Marius Francisc, please read Wikipedia:Autobiography along with Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:03, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:57:21, 14 August 2020 review of submission by 111.91.18.105

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111.91.18.105 (talk) 11:57, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me that you need to ask the reviewer who rejected it in the first instance Fiddle Faddle 12:14, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13:54:59, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Գարիկ Ավագյան

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This is draft article. I would like to know weather this pass WNG before submitting? Would be very thankful!

Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Գարիկ Ավագյան, I have left you a comment on the draft itself Fiddle Faddle 14:08, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:15:54, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Rlambert327

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I was told that "local news" isn't notable, so links to national news articles featuring Centerstone have been added. At one point, we had our logo on here, but wasn't sure if that was allowed. Seeking advice on how to get the page completed and approved. Rlambert327 (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC) Rlambert327 (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft has been rejected, it will not be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 14:26, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tharindu Himash

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14:56:55, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Ramba Kollo

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Ramba Kollo (talk) 14:56, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft has exactly zero reliable sources and has been correctly rejected, did you have a question? Theroadislong (talk) 15:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)This submission lacks reliable independent sources. Youtube can be unreliable due to WP:UGC. Amazon is not regarded as reliable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

15:11:52, 14 August 2020 review of draft by Lev.Klyatis

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Good day! My name is Lev Klyatis. Some time ago I tried to publish an article about myself and my life. I am the author of a lot of technical literature. For some unknown reason, I cannot go through the verification of my article. If you need to provide the necessary documents, confirmations, I will gladly do it.

Lev.Klyatis (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lev.Klyatis, Why on earth would you want ti be in Wikipedia?
When you created the draft you copied and pasted a load of material form some source or other elsewhere. I can tell by the line endings. Unfortunately there is a huge set of copyright violations present. Thisis not allowed.
The text is unreadable. I'm afraid you will need to start afresh, and this time from scratch, please
Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography along with Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Fiddle Faddle 15:18, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tharindu Himash

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15:17:14, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Ramba Kollo

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Ramba Kollo (talk) 15:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ramba Kollo: You asked above already. This won't be accepted. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:51:11, 14 August 2020 review of submission by PhaithS

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hi, itS my first edit today. I created a profile and I’m excited. But i want to be sure its up for review as i didnt a yellow box after clicking the publish button. Thank you so much for your help.

PhaithS (talk) 21:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PhaithS: You need to create your submission in draftspace instead of on your userpage. Your draft should be located at Draft:Cynthia Shalom. JTP (talk • contribs) 01:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@PhaithS: I have renamed the page to Draft:Cynthia Shalom and added a submit button for you. Please move the citations to the place where they are actually needed. If you need them multiple times, you can use named references. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

22:10:46, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Kbaker121

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I created this page and submitted it for review on June 24. It was initially accepted by Koridas talk? who left a message on my talk page informing me that it had been assessed as B-Class. Less than half an hour later a message from John from Idegon (talk) informed me that he had moved it to draftspace. On July 23, John from Idegon was blocked indefinitely by Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) for "making personal attacks towards other editors." A review of the comments on John from Idegon's talk page shows that this was an issue going back to at least April 12, which means that it was an issue when he moved my article to draftspace. Reading those comments, I now question the reasons John from Idegon did so. Can this be re-assessed please?

Kbaker121 (talk) 22:10, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have already queued it for reassessment. JTP (talk • contribs) 01:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kbaker121, I think we only need to be concerned with the draft, not any behaviours of those who edited it in the past. Please leave that aside.
I have left some substantial comments on your draft. I see it was declined yesterday, and I hope my extra comments will be useful to you. We need to know why he is notable, not a list of the various things he has done. You may think they are the same, and they have similarities, but context is important. You and I have each done lots of things, but is the doing of those things of themselves notable? Fiddle Faddle 08:16, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

22:32:31, 14 August 2020 review of submission by Brad31563

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Hi, I have been researching and working to create an article on the topic of a church organization: Church of God, a Worldwide Association (COGWA). COGWA is one of three organizations with memberships over 10,000 people that have their roots in the Worldwide Church of God (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Communion_International).

I put the article up on the main space after completion, but it was moved to a draft space and I was prompted to make changes by using reliable, independent sources to make the article meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines. I have gladly made changes accordingly and submitted the draft of the article for review, but it has still been deemed unworthy of being put up as an article on the main space. Prior to submitting the article for review, the changes I made included a variety of reliable, independent sources, including book publications and other reputable sites. After the article was declined to go on the main space, I removed a few internal links to COGWA and changed some wording to make it less like an advertisement per some of the additional comments as to why it was not approved to go on the main space. I have not yet submitted the draft for review again after making these changes.

I have done research into other church organizations, particularly ones that are similar to COGWA or have been affiliated with COGWA in the past. The Wikipedia articles for these church organizations (such as the United Church of God, Living Church of God and Philadelphia Church of God) are not much different in their wording and in their way of sourcing material. Some of these other Wiki pages even have fewer independent, reliable sources than the COGWA article. In fact, one of the organization’s wiki articles has very few sources that are almost exclusively internal to the organization, and another one provides only a couple independent sources. I am not in any way writing to degrade other articles but simply to inquire that I may understand why the COGWA article that I have proposed is not allowed on the main wiki space and what I can do to improve the article to make it notable for inclusion in the main space.

I would greatly appreciate your help and suggestions. Thank you!

Brad31563 (talk) 22:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brad31563 Please see other stuff exists. It is not usually a good argument to cite other similar articles as a reason for yours to exist. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. We can only address what we know about, and it's possible to get things by us. Also, article standards have changed over time. This is why each article or draft is judged on its own merits.
Your draft just tells about the church and its practices. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this church have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. For example, unless the constitution or the church's mission are discussed by independent sources with no connection to the church, such things would not warrant inclusion in this article. The church has(or can have) a website where it can tell the world about those things. 331dot (talk) 23:57, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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