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03:23:54, 8 August 2017 review of submission by Hillin

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Hi,

It's been over a month since this draft was reviewed and rejected. I've made some improvements to this article, I hope someone can review it again. Hillin (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hillin: Hello, Hillin. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Our apologies for the delay in response. Right now, there are about 80 drafts in the queue ahead of yours and I expect a reviewer will get a chance to look at it within the next few days. Thank you for your patience. NewYorkActuary (talk) 13:00, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

04:57:39, 8 August 2017 review of submission by Mrngcuegee

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Dear Help Desk,

I have created a page and have revised it according to the comments provided. I would like to publish it soon if it is considered appropriate.

Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind regards,

Mrngcuegee

Mrngcuegee (talk) 04:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mrngcuegee. WP:AUD states that, for organizations, attention solely from local media is not an indication of notabilty. At least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary. Very few primary schools garner coverage from such sources. If articles about them are created, they are usually merged, typically to the enclosing community. Enforcement of the guidelines on primary schools in Hong Kong appears to have been lax, but that doesn't mean the guidelines don't apply, only that articles exist that need to be improved or merged. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:09, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello WorldbruceWorldbruce, thank you for your reply and information. I did have a local government link before - "News.gov.hk: 5 School Sites Allocated (http://www.news.gov.hk/en/categories/school_work/html/2015/05/20150529_152055.shtml)"and just added another one - "Info.gov.hk: Two vacant school premises and three greenfield sites allocated for international school development (http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201505/29/P201505290444.htm)" There is an international source from our UK school counterpart - "Opening of Shrewsbury International School Hong Kong Shrewsbury School, The United Kingdom (http://www.shrewsbury.org.uk/page/shrewsbury-international-school-hong-kong)" Hope this helps. Thanks again. Mrngcuegee

@Mrngcuegee: Those sources don't help clear the WP:AUD bar. Shrewsbury School is not independent of Shrewsbury International School Hong Kong, and Hong Kong government sources are still local.
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It doesn't cover all professors, all books, all bands, all athletes, or all primary schools, but only those that are notable - that stand out from the others in some way. Notability is evaluated by weighing the coverage of the of the topic in independent reliable sources. For organizations (incuding schools and companies) local coverage is discounted because they may receive considerable local coverage without being worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. A dumpling stall, for example, might be reviewed by every newspaper in a community and still be a run-of-the-mill eatery, with no significant or demonstrable effects on the world. There is generally little to set one primary school apart from another. Perhaps 1 in 10,000 is notable, and that's usually for something other than education, such as being located in a historic building.
If Draft:Shrewsbury International School Hong Kong were published to article space it might escape notice for a while, but as soon as experienced Wikipedians noticed it, it would be merged or nominated for deletion. The result of such deletion discussions is usually merge or redirect, see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Unless an independent source outside the area has covered the primary school, it stands no chance as a stand alone article.--Worldbruce (talk) 18:49, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

07:56:34, 8 August 2017 review of submission by Mohsin kadomi

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i need to follow up on my article as it has been placed for preview since a long time the article name is ( International Aviation Services Organization ) i have done so many attempts to submit this article but i always receive fast deletion ? i don't know why my article keeps rejected .

please assist thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohsin kadomi (talk • contribs) 07:56, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mohsin kadomi: Hello, Mohsin. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Our apologies for the delay in response. At the time you posted here, there were about 300 drafts in the queue ahead of yours and it would have taken a week or two before a reviewer got a chance to look at it. But I see that you've already gone ahead and placed an alternate version of the draft in Main space. Accordingly, I've declined your submission, with the suggestion that any material in the draft that does not already appear in the article be added to the article. I hope this response has been helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

09:35:22, 8 August 2017 review of submission by Conservativeguy

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I am a new user who tried to create a first time article on "NZ CONSERVATIVE COALITION" at website nzconservativecoalition.org.nz I understand my request was rejected for lack of notability. My question relates to social media strength of notability. My website has been going for 7 mths into 2017 and already has: 1) 11,416 views 2) 5,018 visitors 3) 1,812 likes 4) 119 comments 5) 3,273 posts 6) 114 followers 7) posts to twitter, Facebook, You Tube, Google +, Tumbler with followers on twitter and facebook. 8) It has an inbound link from the Conservative Party of NZ where I am also a Board member. 9) The website has 113 pages of content

I am trying to understand the threshold of notibility taking into account social media. Pls advise.

Conservativeguy (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Conservativeguy: what you need to do is cite some professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about the coalition but not affiliated with it. That's what determines notability, not imaginary internet points. See WP:42 for more information.
Well, actually, you shouldn't be doing that since you admit that it's your website. Because it's your website, you have a conflict of interest. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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