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October 17

Why was my page denied?

Hello, all I ask is to know why my recent page created:User talk:EthanPower Pleaze respond, EthanPower — Preceding unsigned comment added by EthanPower (talk • contribs) 01:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

As the reviewer said, there was no indication that the group your draft describes is notable. To establish its notability we need significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles. YouTube videos by the group's members are neither reliable nor independent. Furthermore, you might want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest: Writing on a club you're a member of is discouraged. Huon (talk) 01:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

how to draw moving coil ammeter isometric projections and its parts projection

how to draw moving coil ammeter isometric projections and its parts projection — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.93.42.29 (talk) 10:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

• This page is for questions about articles submitted via the Articles for Creation process. You may ask your question at the reference desk, but it probably isn't a suitable question for Wikipedia generally. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Krisna Setiawan (2)

Hi,

Would you please advise which part that I will need to edit? Is it for the references? I have provided some reliable references.

Please advise. Thank you.

Caroline1965 (talk) 13:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

• Hi. Have a look at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners for a general guide, but to summarise, you should attempt to put references inline so that each one goes next to the fact that the reference is related to. I'm not sure I'd pass your article as it stands even with reformatting references, as several, such as iTunes and YouTube, are generally considered unreliable sources. Your best bet is to find newspaper or magazine articles that discuss Setiawan, and do so in depth. Don't worry if you can't find English references - foreign language references may be acceptable if no English ones can be found. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Legion of Saints

Hi,

I recently submitted the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Legion of Saints for review which documents my band's bio and recent activities. It got declined for not having any references or sources. Our band is on the verge of releasing a demo and are in the stages of advertisement. We thought it would be a good idea to create a wikipedia page to build our name. Since we haven't released any musical recordings and don't have any 3rd party written articles about the band, are we even elegible for existing on wikipedia? Since we (the band) are providing our own biography, images, and other information, is it even possible to reference our own creations?

Thanks,

IceColdCanadian (talk) 15:03, 17 October 2012 (UTC) Bryce

• I'm afraid that standards of notability for bands are quite high. If you have no third party written articles about the band, have had chart success, or something else that qualifies for the guidelines in WP:NMUSIC, you cannot have an article. I'm a semi-professional musician, I play in a band that does 70 gigs a year, and I'm on tour soon. Yet I cannot contemplate creating an article about my band as I just don't feel it's notable enough. Also, don't create articles about your own band - if Rolling Stone picked up your debut album and said "This album sucks. It's utterly awful. You're better off listening to Justin Bieber", Wikipedia could publish that quote, being as its in a reliable source, and a google search for your band would probably bring up the fact someone thought one of their albums sucked as a #1 hit. You probably don't want that! So tread carefully before creating articles about your own work, as Wikipedia can publish the good and the bad about them. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Help & Clarification Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Redline Communications Group

Hello,

I've submitted the article in question twice and have been given the same direction both times. I thought I grasped the directions provided after the first review so I implemented the changes (for the second review) in accordance with my understanding of the references the reviewers directed me to.

As such, I have read "the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies" and "the golden rule" and believe that Redline does fall within these guidelines. After the first review I also followed the "What you can do" which was to add citations to secondary reliable sources. I added several well-known trade publications from the company's target market as well as coverage they received in the Financial Times.

I would be happy to improve on the article but I am obviously not understanding some key elements and am hoping for some more specific clarification on both how I could do that, and whether the article is worth pursuing.

Thank you so much for your time.

Pachard25Pachard25 (talk) 18:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

• First, the good news. This reference seems to be from a reliable and independent source and talks about the company in depth, so it can count towards notability. The trouble is, most of the other references are either primary sources, don't actually mention Redline anywhere, or only give it a passing mention (eg: this one has a brief mention of Redline but it's actually an article about David Barr). If you can find one or two more articles like the Financial Post one, it should be accepted. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sharkskin Walkers

Hi:

I have submitted for review an article for the creation of Sharkskin Walkers. I've cited the information necessary that I could think of. I would like to submit a drawing of a Sharkskin Walker, and do not know how.

Also, if there is any other information, please let me know what I am missing. I wanted to be the first to submit this creature and myth that I invented. I did not quote the exact story I wrote in my novel, but would gladly do that. I only gave a synopsis in the Wikipedia articles for creation.

My question is how to submit the drawing? And, also, on the cite templates, it asks for a date, and I did not understand the date it wanted, so I put the copyright date at the bottom of the article. I can fix this, if I understood the date they required or requested. I could not find anything explaining the date.

Thank you,

Kathy S. Collier-Mehl Author of The Veil

Submission: Article for Creation/Sharkskin Walkers A Myth created by K. S. Collier from the fiction novel "The Veil" — Preceding unsigned comment added by KSCollier1 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey there! I checked out your submission and want to give some advice. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and in it's very nature needs to be accurate. The reason for references to reliable sources is to verify the content that you wrote so that we can accurately represent the information. If no sources exist, then we can't verify the content of the article, and then the article ends up being deleted. You can't cite Wikipedia in Wikipedia. It doesn't work that way. Act as if you know nothing about the subject, and you want to research it online or in a book, it doesn't matter. If you can find all this information, write about it in an article, and cite your sources in the bibliography. If you need help with referencing, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. You should also check out what is considered reliable sourcing, and the golden rule. I hope this helps! Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:11, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

About that drawing. The file must be your work and/or free from copyright restrictions. Try the File Upload Wizard to upload the picture. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)