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editI have given valid third party references, but my article is not being accepted. Bright.spark05 (talk) 07:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but the references simply are not up to scratch. You need to evidence that the company is notable. This is done not just by adding reliable sources, but by adding multiple sources that are reliable, independent of the subject and lend significant coverage of the subject. The references you have given are either not independent or only make brief mention of the company. Please see WP:VRS. Pol430 talk to me 19:16, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dan Roman - revision
editDear sirs,
I've followed your recommendations and remove the references you pointed out in page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Dan_Roman.
Also I've changed the placement of one reference in a place you marked as "[citation needed]". In that article it is clearly stated (in Romanian) Mr. Roman's role in Computer Aided Design/ Computer Graphics research within the research institute ITC.
I hope my revision will be in line with Wikipedia policy.
Many thanks for your help and understanding,
Best regards,
Bogdan.learschi (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Bogdan Learschi
Is there a way to change the name of the article once the drafting process has begun? I have looked at pages with similar topics and it seems to me that the "the" in the title is not required. Is there a way to remove it from the title before submitting the article for review? Also any comments on the article would be gratefully received. Many Thanks Dlv999 (talk) 14:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have moved your draft to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Central Fund of Israel, though I'll leave it up to others to look at it more thoroughly. For future reference: you can move a draft by mousing over the down arrow next to the search box and selecting 'Move' while viewing it. Hope that helps. wctaiwan (talk) 15:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yea, thanks for the help. I have submitted the article for review, so I'll just have to wait and see how it goes... Dlv999 (talk) 15:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
It would be helpful if I can get some pointers on this article. Not sure how much of the problem is related to the references or the so called formal tone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Dr._CM_Prasad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yprasannas (talk • contribs) 17:45, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
The article was written with list of accomplishments and care was taken to not focus on the qualities of person.
Below was the reason to decline... This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms, that are designed to promote or show-off the subject.
Yprasannas (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, there are a few issues with this submission. Firstly, the notability of subject is unclear. I see the he featured in India Post after he received an award but that, in its self, does not meet our thresholds for notability; it is not clear how notable the award is. With respect to the article tone, the numerous sections outlining his career should probably be condensed into one, with a simple heading like 'Career'. The section on his professional recognitions should probably be removed unless those achievements are independently notable. Finally, all of the text in the article must be supported by the sources listed. Hope that helps Pol430 talk to me 19:02, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I would like to know when will it become available? Biuroat (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- When you say available, do you mean live in the encyclopedia? If so, I'm afraid it is not likely at this time. I have re-added the template, as we need this to keep track of submissions. The main problem with the submission is the lack of sources that we require to establish notability and to ensure the content is verifiable. Please see WP:VRS and WP:REFB. Pol430 talk to me 19:10, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. But you gotta help me out here, please. As suggested, I have added references from webpages not related, meaning - not created - by the author, but by someone else, by one of the the publishing houses that prints her books in Poland. I have also mentioned international translations of the books and linked publishers. I've read the instruction and so on, but I am really lost as to what else I can include. Biuroat (talk) 19:21, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi again, sorry I missed the fact you had already added citations because the {{Reflist}} template was missing. I am working on a few more fixes as well Pol430 talk to me 19:59, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Having looked at the sources in some more detail, it would seem that they are not sufficient to establish the subjects notability as an author. The requirements for which can be found at WP:AUTHOR. This is because the sources are a mixture of self-published ones and ones that do not mention her by name (I assume some of them or just the main websites of her various publishers). What we require, is reliable sources that are independent and discuss her (or her work) in detail. Pol430 talk to me 20:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks again. I have added several more. Interviews as well as scholary books where her work was discussed. I hope this will help this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biuroat (talk • contribs) 20:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- I had a quick look and found some mainstream sources that should help with the notability issue:
New York Times book review The Guardian article on her book Profile France Culture Le Figaro Book review Book review in Newsweek Dlv999 (talk) 23:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
In editing Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Albert Nelson
I have tried to insert the following reference,
http://www.fairhousingsummit.info/about-albert-t-nelson
I do not know how to insert the reference. I read the tutorial but I don't know how to write the references in. The information in the article is valid - i just don't know how to insert the references. I also willl want to re-submit my article. Davidmgillespie (talk) 18:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have inserted the references for you as basic citations, you can check the differences in the page history to see how I did it. Having looked over the submission, my primary concern is that the subject of the article is not notable enough for the article to be accepted. Please see WP:BIO and WP:VRS. Pol430 talk to me 20:28, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
This Article is about Josh Kelly (Actor).
- Hi, this page is for asking questions about articles for creation, not for submitting them for review. Did you have a question about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Josh Kelly? Pol430 talk to me 20:15, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Citations
editI have been attempting to create an entry for my friend Dave Serella but my submissions keep getting turned down because of citations. I have listed all my references but I cannot seem to correctly link the text to the citations using footnotes. How do I cite the person himself? I have also now lost the image that was linked to the page. This is the page that I am trying to create
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Edward_Serella.
Grateful for any help as I am pulling my hair out now Kitbanting (talk) 22:32, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- To use in-line citations, begin with a <ref> tag, then insert the citation, then a </ref> tag. At the end of the article, insert a {{reflist}} template. To cite the person himself, use {{cite web}} if it's published on the internet, {{cite book}} for a book, or see the rest of the citation templates. If it is not published, however, it cannot be used as a source due to verifiability and the policy against original research. A412 (Talk • C) 23:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)