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Weather templates edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per consensus at WPTC's talkpage. All templates have been changed over to WP Weather and have zero transclusions. NoahTalk 23:16, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:1897 Philippine presidential election results edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:1935 Philippine vice presidential election results edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2010 Philippine Senate election results per party edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All single-use and should be substituted where used on the Philippine Senate election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:51, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Substitute and delete. I concur. Each has only one transclusion. --Bsherr (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:1941 Philippine Senate election results edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:1912 Philippine Assembly election results edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:1980 Philippine gubernatorial election results per party edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:26, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All single-use and should be substituted where used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:44, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Region economic history edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template apparently trying to make sidebars for Economic history of country pages. It has several issues, such as being an infobox wrapper and being completely unfinished. --Trialpears (talk) 17:41, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sri Lanka Central Provincial Council election result, 2009 edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:South Korean legislative election, 2004 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused as the legislative and presidential election articles use different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number 57 19:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:2018 Busan metropolitan election edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 22:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All should be substituted where used as there exists no proper mainspace for these templates to be used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Substitute and delete. These all have only one transclusion each and can be substituted. --Bsherr (talk) 00:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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2008 Nepalese Constituent Assembly election templates edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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1999 Nepalese legislative election templates edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:56, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Nepal 1994 and 1999 election templates edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles featured on portals templates edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Johor state election, 2013 edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 August 2. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Malayan general election, 1955 edit

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Template:Uw-hatespeech edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Uw-derogatory. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:14, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Uw-hatespeech with Template:Uw-derogatory.
This user warning template, created last month, seems to be redundant to the established uw-derogatory user warning template. Bsherr (talk) 01:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge per nom. Hate speech is derogatory by definition. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:01, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not merge - Although similar, the two templates are geared to somewhat different audiences. While Uw-derogatory is more general in nature, Uw-hatespeech is focused on Nazism and fascism. I believe it is important to have a template which specifically deals with that sort of editing, which unfortunately is a serious problem on en.wiki, and therefore would prefer that the templates not be merged. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:00, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. Though correct, WP:NONAZIS is an essay, not a policy, and it's not even on the project space. WP:HARASS, however, is a policy. Also the language is a bit sub-optimal. What does edits that reflect the views of neo-Nazis mean? If I write that Henry de Lesquen considers Africans to be inferior to Europeans am I reflecting the views of a Neo-Nazi? JBchrch talk 22:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Suggest keeping both, and using uw-hatespeech as the "polite" warning (can't think of a better word, sorry) and uw-derogatory as the "stronger" warning? Patient Zerotalk 02:12, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    We usually employ four-level user warning templates when the conduct at issue can arise from good-faith and bad-faith motivations. There's a case to be made for that here, and I would be supportive of that outcome. But I don't think uw-hatespeech as currently written is the softer version of uw-derogatory, and I don't think that was the intent of its creators for it to be so, so I think we will need to resolve that issue first. --Bsherr (talk) 15:45, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Merge - Per nom mostly, just something that should not be just handed out to people. Poorly written and it basically just an attack on the user rather than their editing. Plus never a fan of linking to controversial user essays in templates. PackMecEng (talk) 16:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. That said, WP:NONAZIS is not controversial, unless you are far-right yourself. Actual fascists don't belong on Wikipedia. –Gladamas (talk · contribs) 01:43, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Gladamas, It's controversial because of how it is actually used 99% of the time, not because Nazis are good. It is basically exclusively used to label opponents in content disputes. Everyone knows that, unless you are planning on using it as a cudgel yourself. PackMecEng (talk) 02:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't know, I try not to get involved in content disputes. @PackMecEng –Gladamas (talk · contribs) 17:13, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Largest cities of the United States edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Previously deleted. It's not currently used on any article. Catchpoke (talk) 13:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing this as valid reasoning:
Recently you replaced a list of 20 entries with a template with 10 entries.
On Geography of Tunisia you replaced the template with {{Largest cities of Tunisia}} and added {{Largest cities of Tunisia}} to Tunisia. This was similarly done with Template:Largest cities of Syria.
The same problem occurs with oman where you added {{main list|List of cities in Oman}}. How is this preferable to integrating the link into the text?
For the Estonia, Malawi, Mali, Malta, and Mauritania articles you made similar edits. Am I the only person to see that having a section devoted to these templates from a design standpoint is unattractive?
On india you added {{Largest cities of India}} but it was removed; note it hasn't had this template for years.
On your talk page you say "U.S. is a notable exception, where it was included once but later was dropped off, therefore I assumed it was voted out for some reason." Catchpoke (talk) 16:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Pertaining to the April 2013 Tfd, it falls under navbox creep, but also not used on any of the articles it lists. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Other countries have their own tables for list of cities like Mexico. It doesn't make sense to delete when almost every other major country page has one. --AquilaXIII (talk) 05:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not actually addressing the issue at hand by using Other stuff exists argument. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. My opinion remains that these navigation templates, with an arbitrary number of constituents as the inclusion criterion, are inferior to the list article as a means of navigation, and fail WP:NAVBOX because the constituent articles, like other superlative sets, necessarily do not refer to each other. --Bsherr (talk) 04:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. In addition to what has been said above, this style of template is content hidden inside a navigation template. Navigation templates cannot be seen by half of our readers so should never be used for content. If such a list is wanted, it should be created either as a list or a data table (which turns out already exists at List of United States cities by population#50 states and District of Columbia). Gonnym (talk) 21:41, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete per above, better to use the list article which has more information. Frietjes (talk) 21:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Komae city assembly election, 2007 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 21:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All single-use templates that should be substituted where used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Subst and delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 07:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Substitute and delete. One transclusion each. --Bsherr (talk) 00:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Tokyo prefectural election, 2001 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2001 to 2013 should be substituted where used and 2017 is unused as the article uses a different table for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Subst and delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 07:14, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Substitute and delete. I concur with the nominator. --Bsherr (talk) 00:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Japanese House of Councillors election, 1986 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused as the general election articles use different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number 57 16:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:1979 Japanese general election edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused as the general election articles use different tables for the results. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unused/unnecessary. Number 57 16:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:2014 Super Rugby Standings edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Single-use template. Izno (talk) 14:46, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete and subst Has information necessary for the article it was created for. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per nom and WikiCleanerMan. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Substitute and delete. I concur. --Bsherr (talk) 00:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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EuroCity templates edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

{{s-line}} templates for EuroCity services in Switzerland. Replaced by various Module:Adjacent stations/EuroCity. All transclusions replaced. There are 2 dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Lower Saxony Regionalbahn templates edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

{{s-line}} templates for Regionalbahn services operated by various companies in the German state of Lower Saxony. Replaced by various {{Adjacent stations}} modules. All transclusions replaced. There are 34 dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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