Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 5

February 5 edit

Template:Aeiou edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Austriaforum. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:11, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Aeiou with Template:Austriaforum.
{{Aeiou}} is tagged as deprecated yet has 85 transclusions, the same as {{Austriaforum}}. Aeiou uses should be replaced by Austriaforum, as there is no reason to have two templates doing the same exact thing. Gonnym (talk) 22:23, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. {{Austriaforum}} also has the advantage that it is mirrored on German Wikipedia which is the source for most of the transclusions and will continue to be. This saves translators time in doing repetitive activity when importing and translating articles. Bermicourt (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commenttwo templates doing the same exact thing is not correct; q.v.
{{aeiou |.m/m876433.htm | Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus}} {{aeiou |.m/m876433.htm | Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus}}
{{Austriaforum|Biographien/Mozart%2C_Wolfgang_Amadeus|Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus}} Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus in Austria-Forum (in German) 
Further, there is no way to merge these template other than visiting each instance and locating the old aeiou content at Austriaforum. I don't think there's a guarantee that will be possible for every subject. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That isn't entirely correct. First, if we look at the visual result, notice that Aeiou Encyclopedia is a redirect to Austria-Forum. So from a visual issue, they are the same. Now, if we look at the content itself, it is the exactly the same, just in a slightly different layout (with the aeiou one being the outdated version). Now regarding the template itself. Since it only has 85 transclusions, that can be done by a human editor actually going page by page and changing that. It doesn't take that long. Second, {{Austriaforum|AEIOU/Mozart%2C_Wolfgang_Amadeus|Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus}} can also be used if the "(at AEIOU)" tag is wanted. --Gonnym (talk) 14:14, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a major thing, but the two articles cited above are very similar, not identical. The 1969 Italian journey at aeiou has a few extra details. Your template example delivers the exact same output as the one I used above, so I don't understand that point. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Two points: This code {{Austriaforum|AEIOU/Mozart%2C_Wolfgang_Amadeus|Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus}} produces a slightly different link (to the same article it seems like the regular link):
Secondly, I just translated the Aeiou site to English so I could find the search bar and find the "1969 Italian journey" article, and noticed the note at the top of the page which says: Information: This is an old - not maintained - article of the AEIOU. In the Austria-Forum you find an updated version of this article in the new AEIOU. - so the fact they are not identical, is another reason to change, the AEIOU link is pointing to not only an outdated web layout, but also to outdate article content. --Gonnym (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Given that Aeiou is no longer maintained it makes sense to try to get rid of it. Needs someone to do the work, of course. Nigej (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Volleyballbox edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Volleyballbox. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Volleyballbox with Template:Volleyballbox2.
{{Volleyballbox}} is tagged as deprecated yet has 434 transclusions, while {{Volleyballbox2}} has 294. Aside from the notice saying to use Volleyballbox2, I'm not really sure which one is the better template, but there really is no reason to have two templates doing the same exact thing. Gonnym (talk) 22:15, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Edit: {{Volleyballbox collapsible}} which is also used as part of this template and has 2 transclusions, is marked as deprecated and should be included in this proposal. --Gonnym (talk) 08:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: However a lot of work required and WP:VBALL is said to be inactive. Nigej (talk) 17:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge one volleyball box is sufficient.--Tom (LT) (talk) 07:57, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:CFB Schedule Start edit

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The result of the discussion was merge and redirect. I am closing this discussion early to avoid any misunderstandings leading to a problematic deletion of this template. This template is already deprecated, and has been left as-is to allow for the transition to {{CFB schedule}} (see the rather extensive discussion on my talk page). I am keeping an eye on the entire family of templates, and when it appears that all of the conversions have been properly fixed, the templates will be redirected (since we usually have alt-capitalization templates and it will preserve the history). Primefac (talk) 11:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

{{CFB Schedule Start}} has been tagged as being deprecated and has no main-space transclusions. To make sure it isn't used on articles, this template should be deleted. {{CFB Schedule End}} has not been tagged with the deprecation notice, but its only usage is with this template so should be deleted with it. Gonnym (talk) 22:08, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:US student quiz television programs edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

incomplete, not needed, and inferior to a {{location map}} Frietjes (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Chinese Television System Sunday drama edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 19:13, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:China Television Sunday drama edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 19:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 19:12, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Taiwan Television High-quality Friday Drama edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 19:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 19:11, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:SBS Monday–Tuesday dramas edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 19:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 19:11, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Taiwan Television Sunday Drama edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Hhkohh (talk) 19:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 19:09, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Japanese episode list/sublist edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Episode list/sublist. This has already been done. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Japanese episode list/sublist with Template:Episode list/sublist.
This should probably be a speedy request. Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 August 27#Template:Japanese episode list resulted in the merger of all the Japanese episode list templates, except this one which was not nominated. As the parent template, {{Japanese episode list}}, has now been deleted, there is no reason for this one to stay. Gonnym (talk) 15:52, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: there isn't really anything to merge here, this is just a clean replace as the base template already supports this. --Gonnym (talk) 15:54, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support speedy merge per request. I see no reason for this one to stay, either. --hmich176 16:54, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy merge The base template has already been merged per Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_August_27#Template:Japanese_episode_list. This is purely a procedural issue. Gonnym I don't think this really needs a TFD... I would assume the previous TFD already covers this, though I guess there is no harm in making it explicit. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:46, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy merge This is goofin' up the syntax for television season articles.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 18:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge – Everything that needs to be done can be accomplished with a single template. Frankly, I don't see why there were 2 or more types of templates to begin with, though I understand that this has something to do with the way different WikiProjects had their own templates back then. I'm not sure that this template can be "speedily" merged, unless someone is really skilled with the technical portions. The Episode list/sublist template isn't even formatted the same way - instead, it derives its functions from a Module page. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:13, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Before the Japanese template is deleted or redirected, each of the 500 or so articles currently employing that template need to be appropriately readjusted (following the merger), so that there won't be any more chaos, as there has been in the past couple of days. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Update: Okay, after a quick chat with another editor, it appears that the articles previously using the Japanese template have already been converted. This basically means that only the syntax/parameter functions from the Japanese template not present in the Episode list/sublist template need to be merged in, at this point. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:21, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing left to merge. Module:Episode list and Template:Episode list/sublist already have full support of this template, transclusions just need to be converted. --Gonnym (talk) 08:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I always found it a bit odd that Japanese shows had their own ep list template, but never bothered investigating the feasibility of a template merge, so I'm happy to see that it finally happened at some point. This is a natural followup to that work. ディノ千?!☎ Dinoguy1000 08:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:AFC submission/multi edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Completely unused, hasn't been edited in >3 years, don't see any use for it. -- DannyS712 (talk) 07:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Given the comment "Starting Point, this template package will need A LOT more work, if what I have in mind is even possible... I have a lot of stuff to learn about that is new for me to get this one." when the temaplte was created and the fact that little happened after that, makes me think this was a failed attempt. Nigej (talk) 08:43, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Unused. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:57, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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