Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 October 28
October 28
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The result of the discussion was delete after substituting. ~ Rob13Talk 05:53, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:FEN2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:HCT2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:LCT2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:NEX2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:NMC2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:TMP2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:TSA2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:TSC2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:UPT2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:VVP2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:VWL2005riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
These templates simply take text off the page. This year of templates is complete; the information is static and will not change (since it's clearly not 2005 any more). The templates are transcluded on no more than two pages each, so I see no reason why they shouldn't just be subst'd and deleted. Primefac (talk) 03:19, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The one's with one transclusion are entirely uncontroversial, but there's a potential case to be made for keeping complex article text on two articles in a template. Relisting to see if anyone cares one way or the other.
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- merge/delete, the season is over. Frietjes (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 06:03, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Substubprop2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Only used on 2 category talk pages, where it can be substed. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- substitute/delete per nom. Frietjes (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 06:03, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Substubprop (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 23:19, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- delete per nom. Frietjes (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete per author. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:33, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
interesting, but currently unused, so I am guessing it's not needed Frietjes (talk) 22:41, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Not used. Tom Ruen (talk) 07:02, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Template:AzB player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused in articles. if we are going to deploy this, we should really refactor it to use LUA to avoid the template-based looping. Frietjes (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (as author). It's been broken for some time, which is why it's no longer used. The site in question no longer works the way this template is coded to generate URLs for it, and the template is no longer badly needed even if its output were easily fixable. The template was created because the current-year player profile did not link to previous years' pages on the same pro player. The site now links all available previous-years' player data from the current year profile, so all that's needed in our article on a player is a a single link to the current profile page, with no more looping to generate past-year links. We don't really need a template for that, as far as link-generation complexity goes.
That said, every modern notable pro (and many top am) pool and carom billiards (but not snooker) players have profiles at AZBilliards, and it is one of the top three professionally edited non-snooker cue sports publications, along with Billiards Digest and Pool & Billiard Magazine, which also have websites with player profiles. What we might want to do is create player infobox parameters for these profile pages (which are regularly updated with tournament stats and such, for living players). This would be similar in effect and purpose to links to different organizations' breed standards in infoboxes like {{Infobox dog breed}}, and OMIM (etc.) medical codes in {{Infobox disease}}. It would consolidate the templating of "just the facts" external resources into one place in the WP site code. A maintenance problem with these profile links is that the sites' databases and the URLs that address them change over time, and if people are manually adding links to them in the ext. links section (or otherwise in some non-programmatic fashion), this will result in potentially thousands of dead links that have to be manually updated. So, while this particular template is basically dead, we'll need to template something like this somewhere at some point. I don't have time to adapt it right now, so go ahead and delete this broken one. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 08:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 06:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Auto taxon list 0 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto taxon list 1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto_taxon_list_2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto_taxon_list_2_collapsible (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto_taxon_list_3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto_taxon_list_3_collapsible (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto_taxon_list_3_collapsible_twice (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto taxon list edit 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Auto taxon list edit sisters (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused Frietjes (talk) 22:25, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete These are all part of a feature of the "automated taxobox system" that is no longer operating, namely the automatic generation of child taxa. At one time, templates with names of the form "Template:Child taxa/..." were generated by Taxobot, and the higher numbered templates listed above used these to generate lists of taxa. Taxobot hasn't operated for the last five years, and so these templates are not needed and can be deleted. (As can all the "child taxa" templates, of which there are about 10,500.) Peter coxhead (talk) 11:26, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused, and we generally don't navigate by a venue's use if it has multiple uses Frietjes (talk) 22:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and all red links Frietjes (talk) 22:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Ausbio (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused. seems like it could be useful, but given the age and lack of transclusions, it seems it didn't catch on? Frietjes (talk) 22:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. There's consensus against keeping this. A redirect may be plausible, but since the template is not currently in use, there isn't an obvious need for one. No prejudice against any editor boldly creating the redirect if they believe it will be used. ~ Rob13Talk 06:49, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Audio effects (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and generally duplicates navigation found in Template:Music production Frietjes (talk) 22:19, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- If it's expanded to include the 38 pages in Category:Audio effects then it won't duplicate {{Music production}}. – Uanfala (talk) 22:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirected. Added Wah-wah pedal to {{Music production}}. Hyacinth (talk) 02:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:50, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
single use and generally duplicates navigation provided by Template:Amphoe Buriram. Frietjes (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: What are we doing with the single inclusion? Substitution? Replacement with Template:Amphoe Buriram?
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:51, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Box-Header II (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Box-header2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused. we can always add more features to the other box-header templates if needed. Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Boxcommon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and redundant to Template:Commons Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Brain waves (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and duplicates navigation found in Template:Sleep Frietjes (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused Frietjes (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:53, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused, and if necessary, we could add more links to Template:Military of Egypt Frietjes (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. A redirect would be misleading because the target template is not a navigation bar. ~ Rob13Talk 06:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and duplicates Template:Brand Management. we don't need more than one of these. Frietjes (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Template:Brand Management — author of this template. Right? —Niklitov (talk) 09:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
unused and, as far as I can tell, there are no categories which match this pattern Frietjes (talk) 21:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- The categories referenced here have all been listified, so I have no objection to this template's removal. (Creator of this template.) --Chaswmsday (talk) 22:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and generally duplicates Template:Brazil national football team matches Frietjes (talk) 21:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Breton music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
very few core links. unused. Frietjes (talk) 21:06, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Template:BridgeSuitEW (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused Frietjes (talk) 21:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- no objection as template creator; template surpassed by more common use of Template:BridgeSuitNS. Will re-establish if ever needed. Newwhist (talk) 13:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Bridgesdecade (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and no decade categories for this subject, so no need for the template Frietjes (talk) 21:04, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and redundant to a simple portal link Frietjes (talk) 21:01, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused, and duplicates List of heirs to the British throne. I don't think we need this as a navbox, and the list article has all this information and more. Frietjes (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and no parent article Frietjes (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and duplicates the infobox in British Indian Army Frietjes (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 06:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused Frietjes (talk) 20:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 07:00, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Bs result (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused Frietjes (talk) 20:55, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 07:00, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Bs sbs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused Frietjes (talk) 20:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 07:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and duplicates navigation provided by Template:1995 Atlantic hurricane season buttons Frietjes (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as unused template. Dustin (talk) 21:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:33, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Africa/Class (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Africa/Categories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and redundant to Template:WikiProject Africa/class Frietjes (talk) 18:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused, could be moved to project or user space? Frietjes (talk) 18:46, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused Frietjes (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 18:44, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:33, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 18:43, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
old and unused Frietjes (talk) 18:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 21:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Alcedo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and better to just use Category:Alcedo and Alcedo for navigating between members of the genus. Frietjes (talk) 18:41, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Unused and outdated; several of the listed species are no longer classified in Alcedo (e.g. Azure kingfisher is now Ceyx azureus not Alcedo azurea). Navigational templates for species in a genus are redundant with categories and the genus page itself and require ongoing maintenance to be kept up to date with changes in classification; this maintenance frequently doesn't happen. Plantdrew (talk) 17:57, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
old, out-of-date, unused, and broken Frietjes (talk) 18:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused and almost entirely redlinks Frietjes (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 21:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Alliance MPs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and empty Frietjes (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Just an empty template --SuperJew (talk) 16:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused, and not clear if this is a good use of a navbox Frietjes (talk) 18:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:2I/C code (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and no documentation Frietjes (talk) 18:34, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:24 Israelis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused and nationality/ethnicity-based galleries are generally discouraged. could be userfied or moved to project space? Frietjes (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused historic roster Frietjes (talk) 18:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
unused with no parent article Frietjes (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 21:28, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:1MDB scandal (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
currently unused and all the people/companies are connected through the links in 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal Frietjes (talk) 18:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. ~ Rob13Talk 07:04, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Redundant template, only has one possible transclusion on club page, which I've replaced with the contents (updated). Having a squad instead of the contents on the club page only hinders editors as it is more cumbersome to edit, and doesn't have multiple calls anyway, so nothing gained from template usage. SuperJew (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. A broader discussion at a village pump about whether we should blank advertising/spam pending speedy deletion or cleanup might be useful. ~ Rob13Talk 07:06, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Spam blanked (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
We have a variety of tags for articles that advertise a subject, including {{db-spam}} (blatant promotional content), {{peacock}} (terminology being used), {{autobiography}} (spammy BLP created by subject), and {{advert}} (everything else). This misrepresents policy and is a bad attempt at imitating {{copyvio}}. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 02:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Template:Courtesy blanked as a duplicate template. Pppery 21:07, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep. I use this occasionally to blank sections during speedy deletions, to indicate to the closing admin (and any unfortunate reader) that although the latest version might look like just five badly written paragraphs, there was actually a section of spam links at the bottom, and that I've chosen to deny the page creator a few hours' worth of traffic and spidering from it. Blanking whole pages is also useful for the type of spam article where the title is a phone number and the page content is the same string of search keywords repeated a hundred times. I don't think this template quite duplicates {{Courtesy blanked}} (no courtesy is happening), but it should be changed to be the same colour. --McGeddon (talk) 08:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep -- seems useful when dealing with spam. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete {{Marsden-2-EMU}}. No consensus for {{Marshall-GuinnessRail}}. ~ Rob13Talk 07:07, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
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unused and better to just use the citation templates directly. Frietjes (talk) 13:51, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep {{Marshall-GuinnessRail}}. The book is widely used on Wikipedia. I've standardized the template and it now has 50 transclusions. Delete the Marsden template because two editions of the same work shouldn't be rolled together like that. Separate templates would be fine. Mackensen (talk) 14:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. The large discussion linked in the nomination does support deleting this template, and given the relatively small participation here, WP:LOCALCONSENSUS appears to apply. Additionally, it was argued that the usage of the flag as desired by SuperJew violates MOS:FLAG. This wasn't challenged. ~ Rob13Talk 07:14, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
per prior consensus we don't need these in the cases that they can be easily replaced. Frietjes (talk) 16:34, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Your replacing didn't actually keep the content unchanged since you didn't keep the flag. --SuperJew (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- how is the flag helpful? the other link to Boca Juniors on the same page has no flag per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Flags. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- It's helpful to show at a glance which country's league he transferred from. --SuperJew (talk) 17:40, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- You're just proving my point by the way. You give one rationale for something and proceed to do the thing(s) for other reasons and do more than what you say. --SuperJew (talk) 17:41, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- how is the flag helpful? the other link to Boca Juniors on the same page has no flag per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Flags. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus ~ Rob13Talk 07:16, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Template:HD/GKG (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Propose merging Template:HD/GKG, Template:HD/YKG and Template:HD/Bing.
Very similar templates, displaying the same text with the excepttion of references to the search engine, which could be a parameter Pppery 15:00, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Given that we're only guessing the source of the person's confusions, certainly by default it should suggest all of the three. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:18, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose A common template for guesses could be created but I don't think these three should be merged. Some posters do mention Google, Yahoo or Bing, and if they don't then I often make Google and Yahoo searches to see whether their results have the reported problem. Bing searches don't give such boxes for me, maybe because I'm in Denmark. I sometimes write a reply for a specific poster and add something like "See Template:HD/GKG for our stock reply to such posts." {{HD/YKG}} copied the formulations from {{HD/GKG}} but Yahoo only has a general feedback link, at least currently, so the templates should probably also differ more than now. I don't know what Bing displays. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Rob13Talk 07:16, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
I feel like this is rather unnecessary. There isn't enough material here to justify a template.*Trekker (talk) 02:53, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Not worthy of a navbox. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
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