Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 June 22

June 22

Template:No redirect

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The result of the discussion was relisted here. (non-admin closure) ~ Rob^Talk 22:05, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• Template:No redirect (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:No redirect conditional (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:No redirect with Template:No redirect conditional.
IMO, there shouldn't be any case where we want a link with an unnecessarily complex target (with "&redirect=no" being appended), if a regular one would suffice. This is also about not giving viewers an incorrect hint about the target being a redirect. I therefore propose merging the code of {{no redirect conditional}} into {{no redirect}}, falling back to its original behavior only if subst'd. Note that I couldn't properly tag the former, as it's fully protected. PanchoS (talk) 09:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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Details3 & For-on-see

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The result of the discussion was delete, very few remaining transclusions, and no objections. Also, appears to be a continuation of prior clean up work. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:28, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

• Template:Details3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:For-on-see (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I've just made an improvement to {{details}} so that it supports multiple pages as part of its list, that is:

{{details|PAGE1|TOPIC}} → {{details|topic=TOPIC|PAGE1}} →

Further information on TOPIC: PAGE1

and it's now possible to do {{details|topic=TOPIC|PAGE1|PAGE2|PAGE3}} →

Further information on TOPIC: PAGE1, PAGE2, and PAGE3

and similar.

Previous cases have used {{details3}} to implement lists with multiple pages:

{{details3|[[PAGE1]] and [[PAGE2]]}} →

For more details on this topic, see PAGE1 and PAGE2.

Using {{details}} with a list of multiple pages is more elegant, and applies a set of standard improvements through its Lua implementation. We should migrate uses of {{details3}} to use {{details}} instead, delete {{details3}}, and therefore simplify the hatnote system. {{For-on-see}} is along for the ride because it is a single-use meta-template for {{details3}}; it had 4 standalone uses which I've already replaced with {{details}}.

TfD regulars may recognize this hatnote system cleanup as a bit of a project of mine; previous similar TfDs have included About3 & About4 and Redirect6. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 20:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Rob^Talk 02:21, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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